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    (Original post by ironbridge84)
    Is anyone slightly regretting choosing Oxford as their firm? As results day looms, I’m considering whether it really was the most sagacious decision to automatically accept a conditional offer. What I am now finding off-putting is that one, I assume, has to work very hard for an Oxford degree, whereas one need not do as much work to earn an equivalent degree from a respectable RG university. Of course the counter-argument runs, “But it’s a degree from Oxford. You get to write (Oxon) after your name!” So what? According to this article, Oxford doesn’t even feature on the 2015 list of top universities for employability. Why struggle through the workload associated with an Oxford degree when one can get just as auspicious a degree, with less hassle, from another university?

    I for no moment assume that I will meet the requirements of my offer, however, should I do so, I wonder whether it might be wise to pause for a moment and look at the alternatives to Oxford, perhaps even approaching my insurance: KCL. I simply write this being curious to know if others have had similar thoughts?
    (Original post by Plagioclase)
    I'm not sure I'd go as far as saying I'm regretting choosing Oxford but I definitely have become worried about the pressure. Ultimately I didn't choose Oxford for employability, I chose it for the course and the convenience of accommodation and catering but I'm really hoping that I don't get slaughtered with the pressure of working there since I already found the stress of A Levels difficult enough to deal with. I'm still hoping I get in but I don't think I'd be as devastated if I didn't as I would have before. The opportunities at UCL probably wouldn't be as good for me as they would be at Oxford but it'd probably make my life more pleasant...
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    Feeling similar, although not so much 'regret' about firming Oxford (as this has been a goal of mine for a very long time), more a case of feeling incredibly apprehensive about what I'm getting myself into, and whether I'm even good enough in the first place. The mixed reports I've received from Oxford students hasn't helped either.. for example one student claims that 25 hours a week of work for Law is the norm, another insisted 70 hours...). I guess it's comforting to know that somebody in the year above me has had 'the best year of his life' there, although on the contrary it is somewhat worrying that another somebody in the year above me regards Oxford as the worst decision of their life..
    Don't worry, you're all just apprehensive which is understandable. I recognise the hard work I'll have to put in, and I'm looking forward to it. It'll be an opportunity to develop myself as a person. I could have chosen the easier way, but I guess I'be always liked a challenge.. Now I need to meet my offer..
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    I see it as a privilege to have a chance to go to such a world class university, it really is a once in a lifetime thing and it's such a wonderful opportunity I wouldn't want to miss it.


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    [QUOTE=ironbridge84;58340429]According to this article, Oxford doesn’t even feature on the 2015 list of top universities for employability.

    We've looked at the Guardian survey and think it is unusual because it ranks on the basis of graduates in work and/or in further study rather than on the basis of unemployment.

    According to the Guardian, the top performer - Imperial College, London which has a predominantly scientific/engineering student population – could only manage 87.8% employment and/or further study 6 months after graduation. The implication is that 12.2% of Imperial graduates are unemployed. However, the survey does not state this because ... it isn't true. Some of the 12.2% are taking time out and are not looking for work or study opportunities. If you check Imperial's own website, the unemployment component in 2014 was just 5% while the 'not available for employment or training' component was 6% http://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/impe...all-tables.pdf The breakdown will be similar for 2015.

    We've not yet seen Oxford's 2015 data but the 2014 the comparable figures are 5.7% unemployed and 4.8% 'not available' on the census date 6 months after graduation http://public.tableau.com/views/DLHE...owVizHome=no#1

    There is a limit to what can be inferred from a snapshot taken just 6 months after the end of a course. We think that it would be better to look at the proportion of students going on to enter professional careers over a longer time scale. However, if attention is focussed just on the position 6 months after graduation, the rate of unemployment seems to us most likely to interest prospective students - and it looks reassuringly low. The Guardian recently reported on youth unemployment and earnings more generally http://www.theguardian.com/society/2...jobless-figure
    Unemployment was reported to be 16% and rising, with falling earnings for those in employment and increasingly limited access to in-work and other benefits.
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    (Original post by Plagioclase)
    I'm not sure I'd go as far as saying I'm regretting choosing Oxford but I definitely have become worried about the pressure. Ultimately I didn't choose Oxford for employability, I chose it for the course and the convenience of accommodation and catering but I'm really hoping that I don't get slaughtered with the pressure of working there since I already found the stress of A Levels difficult enough to deal with. I'm still hoping I get in but I don't think I'd be as devastated if I didn't as I would have before. The opportunities at UCL probably wouldn't be as good for me as they would be at Oxford but it'd probably make my life more pleasant...
    I feel exactly the same haha! I was so happy when I got my letter about my offer but now I'm on book 3 of a 19 book reading list and the stress is starting to build up. I'm so scared I won't read/ understand everything I need to in time and I love going out and socialising so I'm slightly worried that there will be no time to actually have any fun! I don't know if I'm just nervous about Thursday but I'm starting to have doubts about whether I'd enjoy myself more at my second choice of Bristol or even whether I should have gone for one of my other choices. Basically I am just really, really terrified and don't feel like I can talk to anyone about it without sounding like a douchebag! So I'm glad other people feel the same! Good luck for Thursday :-)
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    (Original post by emmatheowl)
    I feel exactly the same haha! I was so happy when I got my letter about my offer but now I'm on book 3 of a 19 book reading list and the stress is starting to build up. I'm so scared I won't read/ understand everything I need to in time and I love going out and socialising so I'm slightly worried that there will be no time to actually have any fun! I don't know if I'm just nervous about Thursday but I'm starting to have doubts about whether I'd enjoy myself more at my second choice of Bristol or even whether I should have gone for one of my other choices. Basically I am just really, really terrified and don't feel like I can talk to anyone about it without sounding like a douchebag! So I'm glad other people feel the same! Good luck for Thursday :-)
    I'm doing chemistry so I don't have this sort of reading list, but I do know you're not supposed to read all 19 books, especially before you start! You've probably already done more than enough before you start in October. Reading lists are supposed to guide your reading around a subject, not necessarily dictate it.
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    (Original post by emmatheowl)
    I feel exactly the same haha! I was so happy when I got my letter about my offer but now I'm on book 3 of a 19 book reading list and the stress is starting to build up. I'm so scared I won't read/ understand everything I need to in time and I love going out and socialising so I'm slightly worried that there will be no time to actually have any fun! I don't know if I'm just nervous about Thursday but I'm starting to have doubts about whether I'd enjoy myself more at my second choice of Bristol or even whether I should have gone for one of my other choices. Basically I am just really, really terrified and don't feel like I can talk to anyone about it without sounding like a douchebag! So I'm glad other people feel the same! Good luck for Thursday :-)
    We've been reading through the "parents' letters" current students write for incoming Freshers. To be sure, the degree programmes are hard work and require commitment - at Oxford and at other Russell Group Universities. But it is also very clear that undergraduates know how to enjoy themselves (indeed, this is an understatement). In less than 12 months' time, this year's Freshers will be the streetwise 2nd years advising 2016's new intake. Nearly everyone arrives with trepidation - not just at Oxford but at other universities (check out some of the other TSR offer-holder threads). But likewise nearly everyone settles in pretty quickly.
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    I have just finished my first year reading English at Ox. I can honestly say I felt all the feelings prior to Fresher's week that you're describing! I was nervous I wouldn't be able to wade through or understand my reading list, I thought I would have no friends and I questioned whether I should go to a different university to have an easier life like my friends from home. Now, I couldn't imagine going to any other university. If you have a genuine interest in your course, or at least have a good work ethic and a want to learn, then I'm sure you will be fine wherever you end up going. I've certainly met sociable, interesting people who are now my best friends. Yes, it is hard work, but it is also so much more!!! I know this won't be the same for everyone, but thought I should share my thoughts as they have the value of experience. Anyway if any of you have any questions relating to English/English reading lists/anything else I can help with, or just want another motivational speech, please just ask
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    (Original post by ironbridge84)
    According to this article, Oxford doesn’t even feature on the 2015 list of top universities for employability.

    We've looked at the Guardian survey and think it is unusual because it ranks on the basis of graduates in work and/or in further study rather than on the basis of unemployment.

    According to the Guardian, the top performer - Imperial College, London which has a predominantly scientific/engineering student population – could only manage 87.8% employment and/or further study 6 months after graduation. The implication is that 12.2% of Imperial graduates are unemployed. However, the survey does not state this because ... it isn't true. Some of the 12.2% are taking time out and are not looking for work or study opportunities. If you check Imperial's own website, the unemployment component in 2014 was just 5% while the 'not available for employment or training' component was 6% http://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/impe...all-tables.pdf The breakdown will be similar for 2015.

    We've not yet seen Oxford's 2015 data but the 2014 the comparable figures are 5.7% unemployed and 4.8% 'not available' on the census date 6 months after graduation http://public.tableau.com/views/DLHE...owVizHome=no#1

    There is a limit to what can be inferred from a snapshot taken just 6 months after the end of a course. We think that it would be better to look at the proportion of students going on to enter professional careers over a longer time scale. However, if attention is focussed just on the position 6 months after graduation, the rate of unemployment seems to us most likely to interest prospective students - and it looks reassuringly low. The Guardian recently reported on youth unemployment and earnings more generally http://www.theguardian.com/society/2...jobless-figure
    Unemployment was reported to be 16% and rising, with falling earnings for those in employment and increasingly limited access to in-work and other benefits.
    Not quite on topic, but do you know where the 2014 college choice statistics are? On the admissions statistics page it just gives an error when I try to view them, and it seems the admissions statistics have not been published as a concatenated pdf this year.
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    (Original post by KombatWombat)
    I'm doing chemistry so I don't have this sort of reading list, but I do know you're not supposed to read all 19 books, especially before you start! You've probably already done more than enough before you start in October. Reading lists are supposed to guide your reading around a subject, not necessarily dictate it.
    I'm doing chemistry too, is there anything we're supposed to read/do before? I thought we would get something at some point before we go...
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    (Original post by ktbaston)
    I'm doing chemistry too, is there anything we're supposed to read/do before? I thought we would get something at some point before we go...
    If your tutors send you something, obviously do that! If they do, it'll probably be around results day/maybe shortly after. Mine didn't though, and didn't expect us to do any reading.

    You might get an invitation to an online maths bridging program (assuming they're still running it!) - if maths isn't your strongest side and/or you don't have further maths, it might be worth having a flick through but the maths course is self contained and taught pretty well so isn't anything to get worried about. Definitely don't spend ages on this, unless you really want to.

    Other than that, just enjoy your summer!

    Edit: Just noticed you'll be at Magdalen - good choice! Unless they've changed anything I don't think you'll get sent any work, but there'll be some to do in freshers week. They sent us a list of textbooks, but didn't expect us to do any reading.
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    (Original post by KombatWombat)
    If your tutors send you something, obviously do that! If they do, it'll probably be around results day/maybe shortly after. Mine didn't though, and didn't expect us to do any reading.

    You might get an invitation to an online maths bridging program (assuming they're still running it!) - if maths isn't your strongest side and/or you don't have further maths, it might be worth having a flick through but the maths course is self contained and taught pretty well so isn't anything to get worried about. Definitely don't spend ages on this, unless you really want to.

    Other than that, just enjoy your summer!

    Edit: Just noticed you'll be at Magdalen - good choice! Unless they've changed anything I don't think you'll get sent any work, but there'll be some to do in freshers week. They sent us a list of textbooks, but didn't expect us to do any reading.
    Yeah, I did think that the bridging programme might be an idea but I've done maths and further maths so didn't think it would be too bad. Ok, thank you!
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    (Original post by BrasenoseAdm)

    Not quite on topic, but do you know where the 2014 college choice statistics are? On the admissions statistics page it just gives an error when I try to view them, and it seems the admissions statistics have not been published as a concatenated pdf this year.
    The figures for 2011-13 are here
    https://www.ox.ac.uk/about/facts-and...-success-rates

    The data for the 2014 UCAS cycle will presumably be available after the current decision round is completed - although the website states that there will be a May update.
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    (Original post by Jessicaaaaward)
    Anyway if any of you have any questions relating to English/English reading lists/anything else I can help with, or just want another motivational speech, please just ask
    Have you chosen course I or II for finals?
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    (Original post by ktbaston)
    Yeah, I did think that the bridging programme might be an idea but I've done maths and further maths so didn't think it would be too bad. Ok, thank you!
    You should be fine then. There's some extra bits but a lot of the maths course just covers further maths – it definitely makes first year a bit easier!
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    (Original post by AdamY)
    Have you chosen course I or II for finals?
    I'm doing Course I. It was actually quite a hard decision as I really enjoyed Old English in 1st year, but I like the idea of coming out of the degree knowing something from pretty much every period
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    Hi people,

    I just want to say good luck for tomorrow - hope to see you all on the other side of results day, but if not, it's been great talking to you all

    Good luck again,

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    I saw someone tweet that they have a freshers pack from Oxford??!! What is this?! I am panicking!!

    Edit: actually, is this just something you order yourself? she didn't say it was FROM Oxford. I think I'm just being massively over-sensitive. Also the tweet is from the 8th, when they had only just got our results. Sorry.
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    (Original post by rebeccafrances)
    I saw someone tweet that they have a freshers pack from Oxford??!! What is this?! I am panicking!!
    I have no idea - I don't have one either, so don't panic! It could be someone who has an unconditional offer (an IB student or someone who did their A-levels last year for example).
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    Best of luck to everyone collecting their results tomorrow. And equally good luck with the final few hours of waiting!
 
 
 
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