Are police allowed to punch you in the face?

Students aren't paid to ensure the well-being of the public. Cops are. So they shouldn't attack them.

Have you heard of kettling? Have you been to a demo?

Not no policing, just no state sanctioned violence.

not really ridiculous at all...your pic looks like one. nothing if you were, if anything it'd raise my view of you.

Yes, Yes.

Kettling is a superb idea for crowed control. The basic idea is to keep you in one spot.
No police officer is given the right to attack anyone, in any form.
But they damn well have the right if it means preventing wider violence, and them selves being hurt.

What would you do if someone tried to punch you in the face, and you could not move? Stand there and take it....?

Kettling is not a superb idea. All it does is wind people up.
And I think you should ask that bottom question to the protestors. Considering thats what they had to face from the police.

Kettling is not a superb idea. All it does is wind people up.
And I think you should ask that bottom question to the protestors. Considering thats what they had to face from the police.

It lets them boil up untill they peak and then calm down so they can be released hence 'kettling'.

What do you suggest the police do? Let violent criminals just wander around doing as they please? May lend them some equipment to help them smash up windows? Maybe park a few police cars around to vandalize? What about sacrifice a police officer and chuck them into the mob?

Like it or not, its the only way to keep protests under some sort of control.
They simple can not stand there allowing people to be violent, abusive and break the law.

But that is where you get it wrong. People do not calm down. People get angry. People start getting violent (as we have seen in these protests, and in other ones where kettling has been used).

I don't know what the police should do (if I did then I would quite uni now and get a nice paycheck). But I'm sure as hell know that kettling is not the answer to protests like this. It only acts to wind people up and cause violence.

But that is where you get it wrong. People do not calm down. People get angry. People start getting violent (as we have seen in these protests, and in other ones where kettling has been used).

I don't know what the police should do (if I did then I would quite uni now and get a nice paycheck). But I'm sure as hell know that kettling is not the answer to protests like this. It only acts to wind people up and cause violence.



But quite often, people were not being violent before the kettle. The kettle was what created the violence.

Well experiance, evidence and events say you are wrong but I guess some kid from Wales probably does know more about policing and violent disorder than say the top brass of the metropolitan police.

Look at any protest that has been kettled. Violence has occured after the kettle has formed.
In any case, this is kind of ignoring the point of the thread.
Kettling is borderline illegal and inhumane (especially in these conditions).
Punching a protestor in the face surely is illegal full stop (assuming it isn't self defence).

i'd love to go to the protests and no do anything but laugh at the popo for how **** their job is, how badly paid they are, and how pathetic their lives are. it would give me great satisfaction to see their faces.

Remind me again - Whats your legal training?

Basic common sense.
I'm not going to bother posting again.
I just don't see how so many people can justify police violence and inhumane tactics like kettling.

So what you trying to avoid saying is none?

So what you trying to avoid saying is none?

Yeah, but it's illegal for them to kettle you (doesn't stop them tho).

No its not.

Quote me the law that says its illegal.

If being the operative word.