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A Basic Men's Guide to Success with Women Watch

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    Right, so to sum all this up:
    Make an effort if you want to attract someone.

    No self-respecting woman wants to be with a smelly, un-groomed basement dweller.
    As for (clothing) style, be your own man. Don't be a sheep. Wear what you like, within reason- geeky in-joke tshirts are probably not the best idea unless your potential partner is a geeky sort too.
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    (Original post by Flibbles)
    Right, so to sum all this up:
    Make an effort if you want to attract someone.

    No self-respecting woman wants to be with a smelly, un-groomed basement dweller.
    As for (clothing) style, be your own man. Don't be a sheep. Wear what you like, within reason- geeky in-joke tshirts are probably not the best idea unless your potential partner is a geeky sort too.
    That covers it pretty well
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    I despair if anybody finds any of this "advice" useful.
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    I bet the OP doesn't have, and never has, had a girlfriend.
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    (Original post by HistoryRepeating)
    1. Appearance - personal
    Get a Haircut - Unless you are an Italian model or a porn star, Long hair is out. On most guys its unattractive, almost always greasy, and usually badly styled. Very few girls prefer long hair on guys (I'm sure many can tolerate it, but why risk it). You might be the exception to this rule, but strongly consider whether you in fact are - Many guys go through a long hair phase around age 17-19, very VERY few people in their mid 20s look back and think it looked good.

    2. Appearance - clothing
    General - Generally, as a guy you should have some slightly smarter clothes for going on dates etc. An outfit that you know looks good also does masses for your confidence.


    Tops - First of all, black t-shirts or 'comedy' t-shirts (and even worse, t-shirts with dragons, fantasy scenes or wolves on them!) are horrible and mark you out as a basement-dweller. AVOID. Next, while hoodies are awesome to keep warm while doing exercise, or when slumming it after a massive night out, they aren't a top you should be wearing out socially (you wouldnt wear tracksuit bottoms out would you? Its the same concept). What you wear on your top half does depend on your personal style, but normal people will wear either a t-shirt with some kind of design on it, a polo shirt or a real shirt (NEVER SHORT SLEEVED SHIRT!). I personally advocate the last but its a matter of personal taste and how smart you need to be. For warmth go with a jumper, jacket or coat. Never wear waterproofs unless you are going hiking - people in North-face all-weather hiking jackets in the city look ridiclous. Use plain t-shirts underneath to layer up if needed for warmth.

    Glasses, Hats, watches, jewelry etc - This is a matter of personal style of course, but most people in glasses would look better with contacts. If you think they are too expensive, have a look somewhere like www.daysoft.com (very VERY cheap daily lenses, you'll need to get an eye test at boots first to find out your prescription though). Most guys can't pull off jewellery and just look stupid, especially wearing chains, rings or earings or other face piercings, matter of taste though.

    3. Attitude

    If you've got sections one and two wrapped up, likely you are feeling a lot more confident about yourself. This is key. The single biggest factor in being attractive is being confident. Even if you aren't yet confident, you will get more confident in time through practice approaching girls and going on dates.

    Whenever you hear a guy saying "why dont girls like 'nice guys'" you can be 100% certain his key problem is one of three things - that he isn't, in fact, a nice guy, that he is not being forward enough in his approach to girls or else he is too keen.

    Points to remember:

    Don't be too Keen - Desperate guys are a massive turn off. Coming on too strong likewise - both imply that finding a girl who likes your attention is rare so you are making a big deal out of it, this is NOT a good impression to give. To combine this with the point above, the attitude you are going for is "I want you, but If you aren't interested I'll go after another girl instead".
    Amen! I can't understand why someone wants to wear a t-shirt that has a picture of a wolf, dragon or grim reaper. I personally don't like hoodies, I don't even wear them. Some girls may but some don't. And ugly jewellery is just... horrible. I have seen random dragon or pentagram necklaces. Some guys even have longer hair than I do. I believe most girls prefer medium length, not too short or not too long. Short hair may suit a guy if he looks masculine enough (his face mostly). I like preppy looking guys but some other girls may like guys who look a bit shabby and are wearing leather jackets. But if you look like the latter you should understand that a girl with curly blonde hair and LV bag may not like your looks. I don't like desperate guys either who keep calling me all the time, asking me "do you like me, don't you want anyone else?" after few dates or try to show me too often their "so special" love with gifts or special plans.
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    I'm 24 and love guys with long hair. Obviously, I'm not like 'most girls'.
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    (Original post by Flibbles)
    Right, so to sum all this up:
    Make an effort if you want to attract someone.

    No self-respecting woman wants to be with a smelly, un-groomed basement dweller.
    As for (clothing) style, be your own man. Don't be a sheep. Wear what you like, within reason- geeky in-joke tshirts are probably not the best idea unless your potential partner is a geeky sort too.

    On the other hand, the only thing worse than making too little effort is making too much effort. There's nothing attractive about desperation and metrosexuality.

    You're right about the clothing style, although you do still need to tailor your outfit for the situation; something which many men forget to do.
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    Aha! It's so nice to find some advice which every single man can follow and every single woman will love! I'm so grateful for this benevolent gesture which you have bestowed upon us. It's good to know that I can attract every single woman in the world just by following these simple rules - after all, they're all pretty much exactly the same, so they must like exactly the same things, right?

    In this thread: idiocy.
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    1 rule to rule them all my fellow women beaters.

    Don't let a woman use her charms on you. Nothing makes a woman more frustrated than a man who ignores her assets whilst she wants something. I become very thick when a woman does this, its quite funny.
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    Cheers for your help, but I'll just be myself if you don't mind.
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    (Original post by py0alb)
    On the other hand, the only thing worse than making too little effort is making too much effort. There's nothing attractive about desperation and metrosexuality.

    You're right about the clothing style, although you do still need to tailor your outfit for the situation; something which many men forget to do.
    Oh absolutely.

    I see far too many guys trying to tart themselves up with silly clothes, hairstyles etc, then just getting all emotional about how they don't have a girlfriend and also trying too hard to get female attention.
    It's no bloody wonder they don't have a gf with all that soppyness going on.
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    Ok I have a question about the haircut thing. What are you actually supposed to say when you get your haircut? This probably sounds like the stupidest question ever, but I really am totally and utterly clueless when it comes to anything related to fashion.

    My hair's getting quite long, but it's not because I particularly want it to be long, I just don't know what "style" to have instead. It's kind of embarrasing going into a hairdressers or a barbers, they ask you what you want done and you just say "Uh, I want it cut." If they suggest something they just say a load of words that don't make sense to me. I can't translate that into an idea of how it would look. Even if I could I wouldn't even know if it looked any good.
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    They were talking about a book on the radio a couple of months ago "The Game by Neil Strauss"
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    (Original post by Psyk)
    Ok I have a question about the haircut thing. What are you actually supposed to say when you get your haircut? This probably sounds like the stupidest question ever, but I really am totally and utterly clueless when it comes to anything related to fashion.

    My hair's getting quite long, but it's not because I particularly want it to be long, I just don't know what "style" to have instead. It's kind of embarrasing going into a hairdressers or a barbers, they ask you what you want done and you just say "Uh, I want it cut." If they suggest something they just say a load of words that don't make sense to me. I can't translate that into an idea of how it would look. Even if I could I wouldn't even know if it looked any good.
    I don't know about guys but girls take pictures of celebrities with them or just say something like "You can cut an inch or few, make it layered. My bangs could be cut like this/this short *showing the direction/length with her hand*". Sometimes they have books there and you can choose what you want from it. If I was you I would look pictures of different celebrities or google something like "male long wavy hair" or anything similar and think about how they would look on me.
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    (Original post by prescilla)
    I don't know about guys but girls take pictures of celebrities with them or just say something like "You can cut an inch or few, make it layered. My bangs could be cut like this/this short *showing the direction/length with her hand*".
    Good example. I understand cutting an inch, but after that you lost me

    (Original post by prescilla)
    Sometimes they have books there and you can choose what you want from it. If I was you I would look pictures of different celebrities or google something like "male long wavy hair" or anything similar and think about how they would look on me.
    But how am I supposed to know what would look good on me? Part of my problem is I have no sense of what looks good.
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    So basically.. be clean and be confident.

    Yes, that all helps but that should be standard.

    I think the girls of TSR could make a thread called "The Advanced Dating Guide - beyond the soap and anti-perspirant".

    Things that really seal the deal when it comes to dating women...
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    (Original post by Psyk)
    Good example. I understand cutting an inch, but after that you lost me


    But how am I supposed to know what would look good on me? Part of my problem is I have no sense of what looks good.
    Just google "layered haircut means" and you can read different explanations and see pictures. Yahoo answers always helps me :lol: Many people seem to think that hairdressers can read their mind and then they are upset when their haircut doesn't look what they wanted it to look like. Just show with your hand the length you want and on what direction do you want your hair to "go" if you have any hair on your forehead. It's hard to know what looks good on yourself. If I'm doing something radical I try to find celebrities with that kind of a haircut and similar face shape that I have. It may be oval, square, heart etc. You can find pictures of different face shapes from google too. When you choose something you can never be sure. It may not look that good on you but hey, it will grow. And if you don't like the cut you can style it differently (just _a bit_ of gel and run it through your hair and then style it). And when you leave from the hairdresser it may look really good but in the morning it looks completely different. That's why I advice you to ask from the hairdresser how s/he does the styling and with what products. And if you are too lazy to do anything for your hair, just ask a haircut that is easy to take care of.

    But I would say that mohawks, any patterns made with different hair length (hard to explain - guys with short hair may have shaved patterns on their head) or random bright red or blue dyed stripes look awful to me. Some people may like but I think they just look tacky.
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    (Original post by Psyk)
    Ok I have a question about the haircut thing. What are you actually supposed to say when you get your haircut? This probably sounds like the stupidest question ever, but I really am totally and utterly clueless when it comes to anything related to fashion.

    My hair's getting quite long, but it's not because I particularly want it to be long, I just don't know what "style" to have instead. It's kind of embarrasing going into a hairdressers or a barbers, they ask you what you want done and you just say "Uh, I want it cut." If they suggest something they just say a load of words that don't make sense to me. I can't translate that into an idea of how it would look. Even if I could I wouldn't even know if it looked any good.
    I just say "a number 2 on the back and sides please". It seems to work.
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    (Original post by secret_smile)
    So basically.. be clean and be confident.

    Yes, that all helps but that should be standard.

    I think the girls of TSR could make a thread called "The Advanced Dating Guide - beyond the soap and anti-perspirant".

    Things that really seal the deal when it comes to dating women...
    Alternatively, dismantle the whole stupid bloody concept of men having to be the ones chasing women who act as gatekeepers and just treat every person as an individual. The idea that every 'dating guide' is about how a man should act in order to attract women is stupid, outdated and sexist.
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    (Original post by timsquirrell)
    Alternatively, dismantle the whole stupid bloody concept of men having to be the ones chasing women who act as gatekeepers and just treat every person as an individual. The idea that every 'dating guide' is about how a man should act in order to attract women is stupid, outdated and sexist.
    Yep or this.



    Don't forget that women are equally bombarded with 'how to act on dates, how to find love, top 10 turn ons and offs for men" etc etc in every womens magazine out there.

    But yeah, I do agree it's stupid, outdated and sexist... and is also the main reason I don't read any womens mags...
 
 
 
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