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    (Original post by INTJ)
    1. Just look up the rankings for the subjects I mentioned! I am not going to collate all the data for you; you will have to do it yourself! It clearly matters to you, hence why you continue to debate it - so look it up and you will see!

    2. UCL aren't 'brainboxes'? I'm presuming you think LSE students are? Have you seen the entry requirements? I can find more AAA subjects at UCL than I can at the LSE. Also, I'm not the only one saying "I know a ton of people who got into the LSE with BBB", OTHERS say it and, in my experience and, evidently, many others', the LSE is not that much different.

    3. You have shown limited sources which contradict everything I've read/seen/heard.

    4. I am not bitter about going to UCL. I got into the LSE! If anything, you sound like a firebrand for the LSE, determined to prove a fallacy, that the LSE is in a league above UCL.
    1. If you can not be bothered to show your backing-up evidence after frequent requests and I showed mine, I can only assume your claimed evidence does not exist.

    2. The pure fact is that, the average entry standard of an LSE student is 246, whilst that of a UCL student is 227. That in itself says irrefutably that LSE students on average have higher entry scores than a UCL student. That is a very wide gap. That is the same gap Bristol has on Sheffield. It shows difference in quality. It will be quite sad if you continue denying obvious facts with anecdoctal rubbish like "I can find more AAA subjects at UCL than I can at the LSE ........". UCL students are on average below LSE, they are closer to KCL. This is why LSE is more targeted and seen as more prestigious by top firms for employment. Definitely, you should know now that it is really silly to be comparing UCL to being somewhat on par with Oxford like you love to delude yourself and do on TSR.

    3. Lets say your assertion that it is limited is true. The fact remains you, on the other hand, have shown NONE!

    4. That is hard to believe.
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    (Original post by LutherVan)
    For one, I don't see what the rah rah is about being the most central university.

    Secondly, you can throw a stone from LSE to KCL, so how can KCL claim more centrality?
    *sarcasm*

    I don't know, seems pretty impossible for one place to be more central than the others? :rolleyes: Also, it seems stupid to claim more centrality in central london (duh, 'CENTRAL' LONDON), where being "a stones throw away" can mean 5 extra minutes depending on traffic (and whether you choose to walk or not).

    Really, I don't know why they would do/claim/say that.

    *sarcasm*

    Map 2/3 posts down.
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    (Original post by Jamie)
    Guys what does it matter where a uni is in the league tables compared with it being ignored on TSR.

    You seem to be assuming that the TSR members are soooo intelligent that they will only speak of the top ten universities.

    Not everyone here is a AAAA student.
    (not a criticism, just a fact)
    This assumption was not made (at least not by me).
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    4. KCL does not compete internationally. Everyone I know abroad has heard of the other three; no one has heard of KCL (or they mistake it for King's College, Cambridge)
    if it doesnt compete internationally why is ranked 23rd in the world....
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    (Original post by Blatant Troll)
    We can agree to disagree

    Before I disappear from your life, I just want to reemphasise just how close KCL and LSE are, because I don't think you realise (please correct me if I'm wrong!). And also because I'm sad like that :awesome:



    (KCL is the brown blob on the Strand)
    I live in central london. I know.
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    (Original post by INTJ)
    I gave the reasons why I think it should be ranked lower. Read what I wrote; the explanation is unequivocally embedded in the comments.
    Please state these reasons. You've found a patch of ground.
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    King's doesn't get loads of attention on TSR because TSR is stuffed full of grades-obsessed prestige-based psychos. In real life it's obviously a really good uni to go to.

    I go to KCL and I think it is an amazing uni to go to, great employability prospects and I am really happy that I had the opportunity to go there. Why get obsessed with whether it is better or worse than other unis in London or not?
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    (Original post by jackhewitt92)
    because kings and GKT are just signposts waiting to be stolen.

    that's the ICSM view
    We stole bertie's crown back in freshers' week.

    Ahh, how I love banterous crime.
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    KCL ftw

    Ok! So we may not be ranked higher than UCL...
    But we have a social life! (And better graduate prospects)

    And speaking to alot of international students, they find it hard to differentiate between UCL and King's until they come over to britain and see the fuss caused over universities trying to be more elitist than the other..

    Id be GKT over UCL anyday..!
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    (Original post by Jessaay!)
    We stole bertie's crown back in freshers' week.

    Ahh, how I love banterous crime.

    worst bit is king's can never match us, because everyone 'dislikes' them more than each other.

    i've only got 2 king's signs in my personal collection. its around the average ammount of stolen kings stuff for the average student really
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    (Original post by ramzy91)
    KCL ftw

    Ok! So we may not be ranked higher than UCL...
    But we have a social life! (And better graduate prospects)

    And speaking to alot of international students, they find it hard to differentiate between UCL and King's until they come over to britain and see the fuss caused over universities trying to be more elitist than the other..

    Id be GKT over UCL anyday..!
    We have a great social life at UCL, and I'd like to see a source for graduate prospects (especially considering graduate prospects differ very little from medical school to medicla school if you're referring to that).

    I don't deny that GKT is good, but I do deny that it's "superior" for any of the reasons you've put there. Especially the social life one, RUMS is hardly known for being anti-social. And in fact, in terms of location it probably gives an advantage for us to socialise (I met some GKT people in the queue for one of our most regular nightclubs a few weeks ago).
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    (Original post by jackhewitt92)
    worst bit is king's can never match us, because everyone 'dislikes' them more than each other.

    i've only got 2 king's signs in my personal collection. its around the average ammount of stolen kings stuff for the average student really
    That's true. My friend from ICSM rants for HOURS about GKT. In fairness I know him through rowing and every time we race against them, they either try their best to get us disqualified (not for any good reason) or sabotage the race. Like the other week, our men were supposed to race against them in a final and it was going dark and the GKT men they were supposed to be racing against hadn't yet made an appearance. then it went too dark to race and guess who turned up (they knew exactly what they were doing by turning up so late).

    I'm not sure whether that's a reflection on the GKT sports teams in general or anything, but it certainly didn't help us like them.
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    Lol at the UCL vs KCL wars that this has inevitably, and quite typically, turned into.
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    (Original post by INTJ)
    1. Just look up the rankings for the subjects I mentioned! I am not going to collate all the data for you; you will have to do it yourself! It clearly matters to you, hence why you continue to debate it - so look it up and you will see!

    2. UCL aren't 'brainboxes'? I'm presuming you think LSE students are? Have you seen the entry requirements? I can find more AAA subjects at UCL than I can at the LSE. Also, I'm not the only one saying "I know a ton of people who got into the LSE with BBB", OTHERS say it and, in my experience and, evidently, many others', the LSE is not that much different.

    3. You have shown limited sources which contradict everything I've read/seen/heard.

    4. I am not bitter about going to UCL. I got into the LSE! If anything, you sound like a firebrand for the LSE, determined to prove a fallacy, that the LSE is in a league above UCL.
    whoa not really sure what is going on here but LSE is a world renowned genius institute the average Canadian/American student knows about LSE and that is amazing cause them ****ers are dumb i know cause i go to uni with them, UCL is very good too i applied to both but LSE is in a league of its own, it is the most sought after school in the UK statistically and enjoys an excellent reputation
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    (Original post by Vozhak)
    whoa not really sure what is going on here but LSE is a world renowned genius institute the average Canadian/American student knows about LSE and that is amazing cause them ****ers are dumb i know cause i go to uni with them, UCL is very good too i applied to both but LSE is in a league of its own, it is the most sought after school in the UK statistically and enjoys an excellent reputation
    The LSE is more recognised in the States - I conceded that point. But, across the the rest of the world, the difference in reputation is negligible. I also don't think Americans are 'dumb f*****s'. As for being 'sought after', yes, the LSE receives the most international students, but does that mean it's better? Oxbridge receives, on average, fewer than Imperial/LSE/UCL, but no one would argue that they are better than Oxbridge, would they? Moreover, the number of international students who apply to UCL is not much lower than the figure at the LSE.
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    (Original post by INTJ)
    The LSE is more recognised in the States - I conceded that point. But, across the the rest of the world, the difference in reputation is negligible. I also don't think Americans are 'dumb f*****s'. As for being 'sought after', yes, the LSE receives the most international students, but does that mean it's better? Oxbridge receives, on average, fewer than Imperial/LSE/UCL, but no one would argue that they are better than Oxbridge, would they? Moreover, the number of international students who apply to UCL is not much lower than the figure at the LSE.
    True true you are right, omg the average American is lost completely about the rest of the world, their education is very narrow and limited, I am from Trinidad studying in Toronto, one semester in NYU OMG- can you say unaware , but you have to concede that LSE is damn well known

    either way i would be thrilled to get into UCL or LSE

    and King's is great too, i got in MA International Relations, and Kings is a big name, picked on by the next London 3 LSE/Imperial/UCL but the war studies department is world famous

    waiting on LSE and UCL
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    This thread has just confirmed to me how many TSRians have their fingers so far up their arses. A lot of pointless arugments.

    King's is a reputable uni end of.
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    (Original post by Vozhak)
    True true you are right, omg the average American is lost completely about the rest of the world, their education is very narrow and limited, I am from Trinidad studying in Toronto, one semester in NYU OMG- can you say unaware , but you have to concede that LSE is damn well known

    either way i would be thrilled to get into UCL or LSE

    and King's is great too, i got in MA International Relations, and Kings is a big name, picked on by the next London 3 LSE/Imperial/UCL but the war studies department is world famous

    waiting on LSE and UCL
    In the employment world, both UCL and LSE are well known. In the 'real world', most people have heard of neither. In fact, in England, I find fewer people have heard of the LSE. Only in the states is the LSE more well known; but, even then, it's not a substantial difference. In America, Oxford is the only one that is really 'known'.

    But yes, I'd be thrilled to get into either, also.
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    (Original post by INTJ)
    In the employment world, both UCL and LSE are well known. In the 'real world', most people have heard of neither. In fact, in England, I find fewer people have heard of the LSE. Only in the states is the LSE more well known; but, even then, it's not a substantial difference. In America, Oxford is the only one that is really 'known'.

    But yes, I'd be thrilled to get into either, also.

    You had no basis for your claim, as far as we know, it was an opinion plucked out of the ether.
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