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"People saying bad stuff about us should be shot" says £30,000 benefits claimant Watch

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    (Original post by Aspiringlawstudent)

    Gary Bateman and Joanne Sheppard pocket an estimated £30,000 a year in state handouts.

    He claims £89.80 a week incapacity benefit for a bad back and is not thought to have worked since 1999. Because they are jobless they can claim a host of other benefits.

    They live in a £300,000 five-bedroom home – the £1,200 a month rent paid for by housing benefit.

    They live with ten of their youngest children – the oldest five have moved away – and receive £20.30 for their eldest and £13.40 for the remaining nine.

    Last year, Mr Bateman’s claim to be unwell was called into question after he was filmed taking part in a motocross competition.

    But the 46-year-old said: ‘People need to keep their noses out of our business and people saying bad stuff about us should be shot. I want to work but I can’t. I haven’t ridden my bike since last year.’

    Miss Sheppard, 36, who has not worked for 20 years, said: ‘I just can’t understand what all the fuss is about.’


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz19O05huxn

    Classy, isn't he?

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    I'm not too bothered to be honest. The first major thing is that this was wrote by the daily fail so it loses any interest from me. Secondly, for everybody moaning about them getting this much money etc, they are living in that expensive house because there is nowhere else to put them-no other council houses so to speak exist within the area to house a family that size, so they have to put them into more expensive accomodation. Then the daily fail write about it making it sound like it's their fault there are no cheaper council houses, when infact it should be "LA ****s up and has to shell out £30,000 a year".
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    When I read the title I immediately knew that it was from the DM XD

    What I don't understand about this story is if he hasn't worked since 1999, has he used his bad back as an excuse the whole time? If so, then even if he hasn't used his bike in a year, how could he have been claiming for a bad back for the 10 years before? Also, there are jobs out there which won't exactly strain your back, such as working from home. So conclusion: bad back story is BS.
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    (Original post by tripleeagle)
    That's stupid. We only hate some animals...for example, socialists

    I joke. I joke.
    LOL. :rofl:
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    (Original post by Aspiringlawstudent)
    LOL that was my thread!
    Oh LOL! It was a good thread, shouldn't have been deleted!
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    (Original post by juliewho)
    I know my dad would absolutely love to be in work again, it's just not really possible. :/

    thats the bit I don't get though - the amount of forms and evidence and proofs and doctors notes etc that are needed to claim things, we've had countless things sent back because my mum spelt something wrong or didn't provide "enough" evidence. It seems impossibly hard to fiddle the system, + child benefit is reduced the more kids you have so I can't see how it would possibly make up that much difference. Argh, I hate stories like this excuse me if I get ranty! thankfully they're in the minority.
    It's the local council that would be paying their rent, I think - which is ridiculous, because we can't even get a council house
    That's so ridiculous! If you have a valid illness and have worked all your life until then, you should be able to get help. I know what you mean, they don't even look clever enough to fiddle the system! :lolwut:
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    I never understand these huge amounts that newspapers claim...

    I know someone who can't work because she's a carer to her husband and youngest child. She gets £12 a week to live off (after housing), and the government are now considering not giving her husband anything either because they have decided he is fit to work despite aspergers syndrome, ME and having attempted work in the past and been forced to leave.

    Basically what I'm trying to say is these kind of articles really pee me off because they manipulate the public in to thinking that anyone who receives benefits is simply lazy and is better off than people who aren't. Sometimes this is the case, but the majority of cases are people in genuine need, and they don't get much money at all.
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    (Original post by KellyWellyWoo537)
    I'm not too bothered to be honest. The first major thing is that this was wrote by the daily fail so it loses any interest from me. Secondly, for everybody moaning about them getting this much money etc, they are living in that expensive house because there is nowhere else to put them-no other council houses so to speak exist within the area to house a family that size, so they have to put them into more expensive accomodation. Then the daily fail write about it making it sound like it's their fault there are no cheaper council houses, when infact it should be "LA ****s up and has to shell out £30,000 a year".
    I think you've missed the point a bit; we don't like this story because these people shouldn't get ANYTHING, not because their house is too expensive.

    They do not need anything. They just want it. They're lazy.
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    If he can ride a motorcross bike he can sit at a desk and work on a computer. Clearly he's skiving and trying to avoid work.
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    The system is the problem.

    These people are obviously leeches and a drain on the state but from their own position, being unskilled and uneducated, it would just be foolish for them to voluntarily plunge themselves into hardship by working minimum wage jobs and taking home far less to live on than they receive through benefits.

    When you can 'earn' twice as much on benefits than you would in a job, why would you choose the job?
    I see people saying things like they should have "dignity," "self-respect" or "to contribute to society" but none of those things put food on the table.
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    (Original post by mermania)
    The system is the problem.

    These people are obviously leeches and a drain on the state but from their own position, being unskilled and uneducated, it would just be foolish for them to voluntarily plunge themselves into hardship by working minimum wage jobs and taking home far less to live on than they receive through benefits.

    When you can 'earn' twice as much on benefits than you would in a job, why would you choose the job?
    I see people saying things like they should have "dignity," "self-respect" or "to contribute to society" but none of those things put food on the table.
    Maybe he shouldn't have had so many bloody kids then.
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    (Original post by Aspiringlawstudent)
    I think you've missed the point a bit; we don't like this story because these people shouldn't get ANYTHING, not because their house is too expensive.

    They do not need anything. They just want it. They're lazy.
    Some people are lazy yes, but these cases aren't the case of many people on DSA. It's a generalisation given out by papers like the daily fail. But why should people be hated on and ripped to shreds when they need a bit of extra help? It could be me or you at any time.
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    (Original post by KellyWellyWoo537)
    I'm not too bothered to be honest. The first major thing is that this was wrote by the daily fail so it loses any interest from me. Secondly, for everybody moaning about them getting this much money etc, they are living in that expensive house because there is nowhere else to put them-no other council houses so to speak exist within the area to house a family that size, so they have to put them into more expensive accomodation. Then the daily fail write about it making it sound like it's their fault there are no cheaper council houses, when infact it should be "LA ****s up and has to shell out £30,000 a year".
    I totally agree, also what is your problem people :confused::confused::confused: 30k is nothing for having to look after 15 kids full time!!!!:eek::eek:
    a teacher gets that much and they only have to look after kids for 40 hours a week not 168 !!!!!!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Aspiringlawstudent)
    Maybe he shouldn't have had so many bloody kids then.
    Native british population is dying out so he is kind of doing a good job
    and im not even native british
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    (Original post by kpwxx)
    I never understand these huge amounts that newspapers claim...

    I know someone who can't work because she's a carer to her husband and youngest child. She gets £12 a week to live off (after housing), and the government are now considering not giving her husband anything either because they have decided he is fit to work despite aspergers syndrome, ME and having attempted work in the past and been forced to leave.

    Basically what I'm trying to say is these kind of articles really pee me off because they manipulate the public in to thinking that anyone who receives benefits is simply lazy and is better off than people who aren't. Sometimes this is the case, but the majority of cases are people in genuine need, and they don't get much money at all.
    This is exactly what I meant, we don't get anywhere near that amount it's such a small minority of claimants, and their rent is the locals councils choice, it really annoys me because it makes everyone on disability/incapacity look like a scrounger and like they get loads of money, when the reality is it's barely enough to live on - illustrated by the fact we live in my brothers house.
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    (Original post by KellyWellyWoo537)
    Some people are lazy yes, but these cases aren't the case of many people on DSA. It's a generalisation given out by papers like the daily fail. But why should people be hated on and ripped to shreds when they need a bit of extra help? It could be me or you at any time.
    Note how i've not linked to a story about a disabled person struggling to make ends meet and have actually linked to a story about a man with fifteen children who hasn't worked in eleven years because of a "bad back" but rides motorbikes.

    He doesn't "neet a bit of extra help". He's taking the piss.
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    (Original post by UAG)
    Native british population is dying out so he is kind of doing a good job
    and im not even native british
    It would be a good thing if all the feckless like him died out.

    I don't care if he's British or not.

    I would rather have someone from another country that actually worked hard than a British layabout.
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    While people like this are simply ridiculous, and should obviously be taken off of incapacity benefit if proven to be able to work, it really isn't fair of the daily mail/ the sun scum to always use examples like this to represent everybody on benefits.

    Yes, the benefit system is being exploited by some people, and that needs to be sorted out, but that doesn't mean its okay for our society to demonise an entire group of people. Generalisations should be completely avoided, we arent nazis.
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    (Original post by rylit91)
    I agree that it's not always immigrants, but my father works in London with a very 'diverse' work team, and when he asked them why they all come over here the resounding answer was, without hesitation, "The benefits."
    I find it difficult to understand how an immigrant who is working and paying taxes would be in this country for benefits. Benefits are generally given to people who don't work are they not?

    Most immigrants I personally know work hard and pay taxes, they actually have a really good work ethic. As far as I know, if they are here for benefits, then they would be referring to economic benefits i.e. the pound is really strong. I've never met anyone who is in this country looking for government handouts as the Mail tends to describe. Economic migrants are generally here to look for work and they end up doing things like cleaning etc that some British people do not want to do.

    There are immigrants who are on lifelong benefits and it's generally those who are first generation from maybe 30/20/10 years ago. They have not bothered to want to learn the English language and have also passed on this sort of culture to their relatives who decide to move into this country for benefits. They have also passed it onto their children. I highly doubt you would find such people in the workplace.
    When they are talking to your dad, is it possible they are referring to economic benefits as opposed to handouts but then the language barrier means it comes across as if the are talking about welfare benefits?
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    Typical Daily Mail article.

    Apart from that, we can all agree that this guy is a lazy, useless, over-fertile, unintelligent waste of matter that disgraces our country.

    How the **** can you have fifteen kids?
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    (Original post by babygirl110)
    I find it difficult to understand how an immigrant who is working and paying taxes would be in this country for benefits. Benefits are generally given to people who don't work are they not?

    Most immigrants I personally know work hard and pay taxes, they actually have a really good work ethic. As far as I know, if they are here for benefits, then they would be referring to economic benefits i.e. the pound is really strong. I've never met anyone who is in this country looking for government handouts as the Mail tends to describe. Economic migrants are generally here to look for work and they end up doing things like cleaning etc that some British people do not want to do.

    There are immigrants who are on lifelong benefits and it's generally those who are first generation from maybe 30/20/10 years ago. They have not bothered to want to learn the English language and have also passed on this sort of culture to their relatives who decide to move into this country for benefits. They have also passed it onto their children. I highly doubt you would find such people in the workplace.
    When they are talking to your dad, is it possible they are referring to economic benefits as opposed to handouts but then the language barrier means it comes across as if the are talking about welfare benefits?
    What about illegal immigrants, of which there are hundreds of thousands, who cannot work and earn legitimately without being 'discovered'? Aside from benefits for the moment, these people will work cash in hand and not pay taxes - costing us. What you also didn't mention is these hard-working immigrants who 'work hard' only to send the money out of the country to family back where they came from. Or, those who come over here first, then later pay for flights for family to come over, often elderly who don't work who have come over here without ever contributing and yet sponging off benefits elderly people are entitled to.
 
 
 
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