Should James Holmes (Batman killing) get the death penalty? Watch
Society will never grow to a level of advancement that you and me would like because of our human nature: of our greed, self-loathing and lust of personal advancement. Humans will be humans.
And then you get to sit back and wallow in the pleasure you get from knowing another man is suffering
I wonder if you'd be so liberal if he killed your parents in that cinema
When you innocent people in cold blood you deserve to suffer, its called retribution. What would you suggest behind your computer? a little slap on the wrist and say don't do it again? do you think Ian Huntley deserves to be released because hes depressed and suffering in prison?
Also, that's a complete strawman argument.
So you do then, don't you? There's no halfway house. You're either for it or against it. This isn't a false dichotomy either because even if you only call for it once, you're not against it.
I'm against it.
Killing him achieves nothing. He may well have some serious mental health issues to, but this isn't confirmed.
Not at all, but that doesn't mean I'm sitting here with a grin on my face about it. That's something I could only readily forgive in the people who actually knew is victims.
I have some objections (irreversibility where there is any question of guilt, reform of individuals who are capable of good) - which do/may not apply to this case.
1) unless he is suffering from some form of transient psychotic illness (unlikely, given level of planning gone into attack) he is unquestionably guilty of his crimes.
2) it sounds to me as though he may be a violent psychopath, and if that is truly the case then he is never going to be someone capable of reform or any sort of goodness that isn't entirely selfish in its nature - from what I understand of psychopathy.
I am still opposed because I think it is wrong to kill any powerless individual where there is an alternative (which is just as safe and actually cheaper).
Imo, justice shouldn't be taken in anger (hot blood), and to kill someone in cold blood (where there is a choice not to do so) seems, well, evil. Even if the person being killed is evil. I think the state should always be merciful by example (obviously without compromising the safety and wellbeing of others).
Don't think I would be sad if he happened to die, but cold-blooded state sanctioned killing. is. wrong.
Also, I reckon he will plead insanity or whatever the technical term is
People keep talking about the family of the victims wanting revenge or whatever- what about Holmes' family? What if they don't want to lose their son/brother/whatever, despite what he did?
If you're taking pleasure in the suffering of a person who killed someone you're close to, that's understandable, that's how human emotions work. You don't know this guy or his victims so I don't like how willing you are to take pleasure from his pain.
The straw man isn't the comparison between the two cases, it's the way you've taken my opposition to capital punishment and taking pleasure in criminals' suffering, and used it to make the leap that I'm some hyper liberal who thinks criminals should just get a slap on the wrist and be on their way..
I'm not anti-euthanasia, if the guy wants to die and is mentally sound enough to make that call then someone should be allowed to end his life. I wasn't aware he wanted to die.
Maybe next we should kill Robbers. If you have a confession, video and witnesses of the crimes.
Save even more money.
No, that's not what I said at all, bother reading what I put and don't read what I don't put
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