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(Original post by jam277)
Dopamine is a wonderful chemical(when you have a lot of it)
Dopamine and serotinin, the only two things I enjoy.
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Detecting a game of semantics here. Most definitions of the word exclude man-made inventions as being natural, so it is true that pornography is not natural because it is man-made. However, humans are themselves also a product of natural causes just like all other animals, and there is no reason particularly to single out what humans do as 'unnatural'. Because of this, I think it isn't fair to call anything man-made unnatural; all that occurs in a natural universe is, in some sense, natural. It's certainly not a good reason to condemn a thing.
Haha I wasn't playing semantics at all. By unnatural I was referring to its relatively sudden introduction into our lives and our lack of evolution and adaptation to it. I wasn't condemning porn (in this sense anyway) because it is man-made but because we aren't wired for it.


(Original post by jonnyb123)
I don't see a problem with porn use unless at an absolute level, masturbating without porn doesn't give you much pleasure. Obviously in relative terms, masturbating with porn will be more pleasurable but that's not my point. If w/o porn doesn't make you feel good (note just "good", not "as good") you have been desensitized. By your definition of desensitization I don't see how it isn't enough reason as to why masturbating without porn leaves you "meh." On a scientific level, desensitization in this context means downregulation of D2 receptors and therefore less dopamine binding - less stimulation experienced and less pleasure.

The health risks have been picked up, anecdotally though. But in large quantities I should add. The main problems with getting empirical evidence are lack of control groups (everyone seems to watch porn!!), lack of funding for non-HIV related sex research and the recent (last few years) acceptance of sex and by extension, porn addiction, by the medical community.

Yep, completely agree on the last part. The issue is that it's easy to binge on porn and develop compulsive behaviour towards it.

(Original post by Juichiro)
Watching sex in a computer screen is not natural but neither it is writing, using clothes, eating with a spoon, fork and knife. Nor it living in houses or going to school. But it does not really hurt, does it?
And all of those have had some kind of effect which is undeniable. Writing has changed our brain plasticity to benefit those parts responsible for it, using clothes has made our skin weaker etc. But they're not relevant analogies I think. Those things don't require massive evolutionary changes to our brains to cope with, but porn just releases so much freaking dopamine.
Just naming loads of unnatural things that don't hurt us doesn't prove that things being unnatural isn't enough reason to cause us aversion. Especially considering sex is so deeply ingrained into our brains. Writing doesn't really change or affect anything we're biologically meant to do.
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Haha I wasn't playing semantics at all. By unnatural I was referring to its relatively sudden introduction into our lives and our lack of evolution and adaptation to it. I wasn't condemning porn (in this sense anyway) because it is man-made but because we aren't wired for it.
Ah ok. Then you are quite right in that it is evolutionarily novel, and it does completely exploit our evolved behaviours in ways that natural selection hasn't had a chance to defend against.
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(Original post by miser)
Dopamine and serotinin, the only two things I enjoy.


Good debate going on here though.
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Good debate going on here though.
Yep. Very interesting subject.
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Why is it when you watch a porn video, it seems really hot and you're really into it, then as soon as you orgasm, you look at the video and it's literally disgusting and can sometimes make you feel sick?
it can happen in real life too

i had some dodgy overweight mental northern bird sucking me off...once I'd come BOOM I didn't wanna bang her
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it can happen in real life too

i had some dodgy overweight mental northern bird sucking me off...once I'd come BOOM I didn't wanna bang her
Sounds like you stuck it in a KFC bargain bucket
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Sounds like you stuck it in a KFC bargain bucket
I love KFC with all my heart and would never compare it with THAT
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Did anyone else think this was gonna be troll? I was actually elated when i saw that OP made a valid point and one ive questioned a few times, but seriously though what guy calls it orgasming?!?
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Sinful my ass, only virgin Christians think that m8
Maybe today, but it was quite the hot idea c. 1550-1918 and probably at other points in history
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