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    (Original post by MatureStudent36)
    It was signed off by Blair.
    Not sure what you mean exactly but most of the press are reporting it as a Brown plan.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...nts-criticised
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Not sure what you mean exactly but most of the press are reporting it as a Brown plan.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...nts-criticised
    http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/blai...cher-1-1412430
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    (Original post by TheBritishArmy)
    There is nothing "Orwellian" about this, this is the main party in our government spending money to pay their respects to a woman who the vast majority of members of that party view as a heroine and one of its greatest leaders ever.

    I don't agree with any public money being spent on the funeral, I'm sure her thousands of very wealthy supporters would have been prepared to put money up to fund an equally lavish ceremony privately, but this is not a conspiracy nor is an attempt to win votes.
    Completely agree with this post, of course the Tories are going to want Thatcher to have an impressive funeral, many of them admire her hugely, there's no conspiracy in it. Although I do wonder why Labour haven't made more of a point out of the irony/hypocrisy that Thatcher, who was so focused on privatisation, is having a state-funded funeral...

    I also agree with above posters that there's no reason to break tradition of having a private funeral followed by a public (somewhat cheaper) commemoration, especially for such a divisive figure.
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    (Original post by 11flon)
    Completely agree with this post, of course the Tories are going to want Thatcher to have an impressive funeral, many of them admire her hugely, there's no conspiracy in it. Although I do wonder why Labour haven't made more of a point out of the irony/hypocrisy that Thatcher, who was so focused on privatisation, is having a state-funded funeral...

    I also agree with above posters that there's no reason to break tradition of having a private funeral followed by a public (somewhat cheaper) commemoration, especially for such a divisive figure.
    This will be forgotten about in the very near future. The only people who will raise it will be a very vocal minorty
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    Alright, so Blair liked the idea of a posh send off for Mrs T. But things were different then - we had loads of dosh to throw at stuff like the poor and grand funerals for not so popular people. It was all cushty and even that fella Cameron liked the idea of spending lots of money on nice things like hospitals and stuff.

    But things have changed - we have all this austerity which that bloke Osbourne is trying to get his head around. Now we have had to get rid of the armed forces and we can't even afford a proper legal system anymore.

    I think that in light of the changing circumstances, and what with us being like Greece and actually only having a tenner in the bank, we ought to give Mrs T a more modest funeral. That way we won't have our Country repossessed by some well 'ard bailiffs.
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    (Original post by InnerTemple)
    Alright, so Blair liked the idea of a posh send off for Mrs T. But things were different then - we had loads of dosh to throw at stuff like the poor and grand funerals for not so popular people. It was all cushty and even that fella Cameron liked the idea of spending lots of money on nice things like hospitals and stuff.

    But things have changed - we have all this austerity which that bloke Osbourne is trying to get his head around. Now we have had to get rid of the armed forces and we can't even afford a proper legal system anymore.

    I think that in light of the changing circumstances, and what with us being like Greece and actually only having a tenner in the bank, we ought to give Mrs T a more modest funeral. That way we won't have our Country repossessed by some well 'ard bailiffs.
    Before we all start jumping on the outrage bus shall we see what the final cost to the taxpayer comes in at. I'm pretty sure that a substantial amount will be paid by the Thatcher estate.
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    (Original post by MatureStudent36)
    Before we all start jumping on the outrage bus shall we see what the final cost to the taxpayer comes in at. I'm pretty sure that a substantial amount will be paid by the Thatcher estate.
    Well you can answer the door when the bailiffs come.

    Thanks for getting us all kicked out. :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by InnerTemple)
    Well you can answer the door when the bailiffs come.

    Thanks for getting us all kicked out. :rolleyes:
    Who's kicking you out?

    One good thing to come out from her death is a timely reminder of that many socialists can be nasty and an ignorant group of people, and the way they have behaved over the last few days is a true reflection of their humanity and attitude.
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    (Original post by InnerTemple)
    Alright, so Blair liked the idea of a posh send off for Mrs T. But things were different then - we had loads of dosh to throw at stuff like the poor and grand funerals for not so popular people. It was all cushty and even that fella Cameron liked the idea of spending lots of money on nice things like hospitals and stuff.

    But things have changed - we have all this austerity which that bloke Osbourne is trying to get his head around. Now we have had to get rid of the armed forces and we can't even afford a proper legal system anymore.

    I think that in light of the changing circumstances, and what with us being like Greece and actually only having a tenner in the bank, we ought to give Mrs T a more modest funeral. That way we won't have our Country repossessed by some well 'ard bailiffs.
    I'd like to point out an inaccuracy in your post, as follows:

    ...and what with us being like Greece and actually only having a tenner in the bank...
    I'm afraid we don't have a tenner in the bank. In fact, we have a chronic overdraft and several loans and our bank balance is chronically in a minus figure. :mmm:

    Just thought I'd tell ya.
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    (Original post by MatureStudent36)
    Before we all start jumping on the outrage bus shall we see what the final cost to the taxpayer comes in at. I'm pretty sure that a substantial amount will be paid by the Thatcher estate.
    Everyone is being very coy about this point and refusing to give a figure. It will probably emerge some years from now that it was an off-the-cuff remark by some Tory spokesperson in the heat of the moment and that there was either no family donation to the main ceremonies, or else something minor.
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    (Original post by HopefulMidwife)
    I'm so pissed off that we're having a 8m funeral in a country where they claim to have no money. People can struggle, literally have nothing but it doesn't matter, as long as she gets her state funded funeral, right? Ironic coming from a government that wants to privatise everything, it seems. Did they even ask for permission to use our taxes for this crap?
    I completely agree, and I'm fair from a fan of hers. However she did say in her will she want a small private funeral, but the government and her family seen to think otherwise.
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    (Original post by MatureStudent36)
    Who's kicking you out?

    One good thing to come out from her death is a timely reminder of that many socialists can be nasty and an ignorant group of people, and the way they have behaved over the last few days is a true reflection of their humanity and attitude.
    Don't be so ridiculous, nobody is objecting to her having a good funeral, we are simply requesting it not be converted from the usual private funeral and public commemorative service into a grand, propagandistic, state event. There is nothing inhumane about that. The grand spectacle thing is actually quite sinister and, to my mind, un-British.
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    (Original post by MatureStudent36)
    One good thing to come out from her death is a timely reminder of that many socialists can be nasty and an ignorant group of people, and the way they have behaved over the last few days is a true reflection of their humanity and attitude.
    You've just won this thread, in my opinion
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    (Original post by CheeseMunchies)
    I completely agree, and I'm fair from a fan of hers. However she did say in her will she want a small private funeral, but the government and her family seen to think otherwise.
    The family's wishes are irrelevant, they can't 'choose' a state funeral. They should never have been granted that power, if it was granted to them.

    The way some people are going on about this, I'm surprised the Right haven't yet called for Mark to be appointed Prince Regent and Tebbit as Lord Protector.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    The family's wishes are irrelevant, they can't 'choose' a state funeral. They should never have been granted that power, if it was granted to them.

    The way some people are going on about this, I'm surprised the Right haven't yet called for Mark to be appointed Prince Regent and Tebbit as Lord Protector.
    I ask this question, i'm no law student, but isn't your will irreversible? seems not!
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    (Original post by CheeseMunchies)
    I ask this question, i'm no law student, but isn't your will irreversible? seems not!
    You can't will things not under your control. This is only happening because Gordon Brown approved it (and, we can guess, the Privy Council.). He/they should not have done.
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    (Original post by CheeseMunchies)
    I ask this question, i'm no law student, but isn't your will irreversible? seems not!
    No, that's too simplistic. They try to do what you want but if it's too disruptive or financially ruinous they won't do it. (Maggie's funeral, clearly, fails on both counts!)
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    (Original post by Hackett)
    Oh Shut up, silly Cow.
    Sorry, do you actually have something useful to say? :rolleyes:. Nope, didn't think so.
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    (Original post by Chadya)
    They don't ask my permission before they spend so much on welfare. There's no way I would agree to it.
    So if you get made redundant, use up all your savings, have a family to support and can't find a job, you don't want any help? Or any other family to get help.

    I hate benefit scroungers like Mike Philpott, or whatever the scum's name is, but welfare is there to help people. I know people who need help, and guess what? They've worked all their life and deserve the help when they need it.
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    (Original post by CheeseMunchies)
    I completely agree, and I'm fair from a fan of hers. However she did say in her will she want a small private funeral, but the government and her family seen to think otherwise.
    I understand that. Wish they'd bloody listen. This silly thing better not inconvenience me getting to and from work tomorrow.

    Sigh.
 
 
 
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