FA Cup Final 2014: The great managerial clash- Bruce v Wenger; Arsenal v Hull City Watch

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At the start of the season I predicted that either Arsenal or David Moyes would break their trophy drought.

Should have put some money on it.
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You're alive :lol:

genuinely thought you topped yourself :lol:
Aw lol no...

We're so close.
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(Original post by MagicNMedicine)
At the start of the season I predicted that either Arsenal or David Moyes would break their trophy drought.

Should have put some money on it.
They both did,
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11th FA Cup for the Cup Kings

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They both did,
Community Shield isn't a trophy.
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damn it well done Arsenal, unlucky Hull great effort
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This is gonna be like when Liverpool beat Birmingham and convinced themselves it would be a 'turning point'. In fact everyone was saying it like fact, like it would magically stop their bad form. It didn't of course.
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Deserved win. Well played. The ref was pretty incompetent all game. Turned down a couple stonewall pens.
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Did you guys see my post on the first page? I am too good.
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I thought Arsenal were far superior on the day. Hull played their part, but they may have been victims of a too fortunate start. They scored too early, had to ten contain an Arsenal side who practically had nothing to lose so played with a freedom and guile we are used to seeing from them. Well done to them - and well done to Wenger, the "specialist in failure", who has won more than Mourinho this season.

Also - I wish Ramsey was English. Superior to Wilshere in every department.
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This is gonna be like when Liverpool beat Birmingham and convinced themselves it would be a 'turning point'. In fact everyone was saying it like fact, like it would magically stop their bad form. It didn't of course.
It was a turning point because they won the FA Cup and the UEFA Cup later that season, then they won the League Cup again two years later and the Champions League a couple of years after that. They had only won one trophy in the past nine years before that....
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It was a turning point because they won the FA Cup and the UEFA Cup later that season, then they won the League Cup again two years later and the Champions League a couple of years after that. They had only won one trophy in the past nine years before that....
Not Birmingham, Cardiff. Same colour.
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Not Birmingham, Cardiff. Same colour.
Liverpool's have got better since that as well, they made the FA Cup final later that year, then steadied the ship in 2012/13 and were superb this season.

One thing Liverpool have been good at through their long league title drought is kickstarting momentum through winning trophies, thats what Arsenal, Everton and Spurs haven't done. Although Liverpool haven't won the league since 1990, by most clubs standards this past 24 years haven't been that bad: two major European trophies, three FA Cups, three League Cups.

Chelsea have also been good at picking up trophies (apart from this season).

Big clubs need to do that: Ferguson in his early years kept momentum at United with the FA Cup, European Cup Winners Cup, League Cup to build momentum. If a club goes on a long trophy drought pressure builds and the club gets stuck in a rut.

I don't think Arsenal are suddenly going to start dominating now they've won an FA Cup but it will help the whole attitude and mentality of the club, also the financial fair play rules might start to rein in some of the advantage City and Chelsea have over them.
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Liverpool's have got better since that as well, they made the FA Cup final later that year, then steadied the ship in 2012/13 and were superb this season..
Liverpool only got better because Dalglish got sacked and Rodgers was appointed who steadied the ship himself. The Carling cup win as far as I'm concerned had little or zero contribution to how well Liverpool did this season.
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(Original post by MagicNMedicine)
Liverpool's have got better since that as well, they made the FA Cup final later that year, then steadied the ship in 2012/13 and were superb this season.

One thing Liverpool have been good at through their long league title drought is kickstarting momentum through winning trophies, thats what Arsenal, Everton and Spurs haven't done. Although Liverpool haven't won the league since 1990, by most clubs standards this past 24 years haven't been that bad: two major European trophies, three FA Cups, three League Cups.

Chelsea have also been good at picking up trophies (apart from this season).

Big clubs need to do that: Ferguson in his early years kept momentum at United with the FA Cup, European Cup Winners Cup, League Cup to build momentum. If a club goes on a long trophy drought pressure builds and the club gets stuck in a rut.

I don't think Arsenal are suddenly going to start dominating now they've won an FA Cup but it will help the whole attitude and mentality of the club, also the financial fair play rules might start to rein in some of the advantage City and Chelsea have over them.
On the contrary, Liverpool continued to tank for the rest of the season. There were no long-term benefits either of course, because the prize money is meaningless toward the transfer budget, and no one joined them because they won the English secondary cup. As for Arsenal, unfortunately, the F.A. Cup is little better and has lost its 'magic' and now joins the other cups around Europe. No one itches to join a club because they won the Copa Del Rey or Coupe De France or Club World Cup.

Improving actually requires doing something, not just inserting the words 'kick on' and 'winning things' after winning a trophy no one else really wanted to win until they reached the semis.
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COME ON ARSENAL
COME ON ARSENAL
COME ON ARSENAL

Arsenal to come back from 2-0 down to win 3-2 in the 93rd minute.


OMG I AM TOO GOOD
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