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    (Original post by Tyrion_Lannister)
    There are plenty of women who want to fight on the front line and should be allowed to. I personally don't appreciate being patronised on my gender.
    Sure if they are up for it (can pass the EXACT same tests men would have to, not like tennis players etc. where they get to play less rounds because they are women).

    But having a woman in the front line just for the sake of having a woman there because she wants to is just dangerous, in area's of work like that a weak link could get everyone killed and its not sexist to say women are far less suitable to that line of work.
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    (Original post by JG1233)
    Sure if they are up for it (can pass the EXACT same tests men would have to, not like tennis players etc. where they get to play less rounds because they are women).

    But having a woman in the front line just for the sake of having a woman there because she wants to is just dangerous, in area's of work like that a weak link could get everyone killed and its not sexist to say women are far less suitable to that line of work.
    Agree, if she can't pass the requirements, don't have her. But if she can, don't not have her because she has boobs.
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    (Original post by Ndella)
    What's much better about me?
    agreed with what yeh said

    howya getting on btw any news
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    (Original post by Tyrion_Lannister)
    Agree, if she can't pass the requirements, don't have her. But if she can, don't not have her because she has boobs.
    I can't tell if your implying women are generally not allowed into the army because they have boobs.

    But the rigorous tests for especially the more combat intense front-line duties have physical tests which most males struggle to pass. So even if women were allowed to take the tests, it would be a extremely small amount who would likely be able to pass anyway (and that could be determined on genetics, a 5ft7ish medium built girl would have a far better chance then a 4ft11 skinny frame no matter how hard she tries)..
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    (Original post by samsun53)
    I notice it is usually women who have a sense of entitlement.

    Even today, I see so many women who expect a man to pay for the drinks and they are not even grateful, they just expect it!

    Women go to university, and usually do all the soft, easy humanities subjects then demand a top graduate jobs and if they don't get it start using the sexism card.

    Women seem to think they are entitlement to mens money and they have no shame in admitting it they after a rich man.
    They feel its ok for them to have a good job, earn good money and yet expect men to pay for everything.
    So so true. Do you know what I've noticed recently? Women walking in mens way on the pavements, platforms .. shoving their umbrellas and prams and bags in peoples faces. It's like they think they own the pavement sometimes with all their accessories and their layers of fat. It's just something I've consistently noticed lately ... continuously letting their bags walk into me and so forth. Thinking subconciously they have rights that I don't.
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    I'm struggling to believe some of you actually hold these opinions in real life. Women weren't oppressed? Society is against men? Slating feminists who's intrinsic beliefs are in gender equality and generally making such far fetched, ignorant and ridiculous comments I feel it may be time to leave this thread and get back to reality.

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    (Original post by Xinho)
    So so true. Do you know what I've noticed recently? Women walking in mens way on the pavements, platforms .. shoving their umbrellas and prams and bags in peoples faces. It's like they think they own the pavement sometimes with all their accessories and their layers of fat. It's just something I've consistently noticed lately ... continuously letting their bags walk into me and so forth. Thinking subconciously they have rights that I don't.
    They expect you to move out the way, because your a man and we our 2nd class and must meet all their demands.
    I would just walk straight through her, if the ***** gets knocked down, I don;t care.
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    (Original post by JG1233)
    I can't tell if your implying women are generally not allowed into the army because they have boobs.

    But the rigorous tests for especially the more combat intense front-line duties have physical tests which most males struggle to pass. So even if women were allowed to take the tests, it would be a extremely small amount who would likely be able to pass anyway (and that could be determined on genetics, a 5ft7ish medium built girl would have a far better chance then a 4ft11 skinny frame no matter how hard she tries)..
    Indeed. But some women are able to pass it and should be allowed to serve. I don't care about numbers, the army could be 100% male for all I care I think people should have the opportunity
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    (Original post by xx_rachel_xx)
    Lots of men have an enormous sense of entitlement:

    To sex. Date rape, the "friend zone" etc. To date women who are more attractive than them.
    How many times have you heard butt-ugly men complain about women's appearances? And "women are so superficial, none of the good-looking ones will date me". Hahahaha

    To have a woman meet their practical needs throughout life.

    No-one is complaining about discrimination against women who are not equally qualified in the workplace. A humanities or social science degree is the natural preparation for a good career in law, the civil service, politics, university teaching etc etc. OBVIOUSLY.

    The one minor grievance men seem able to stack up against this is that women expect them to pay for dates. The simple solution is to date someone who can earn her own money.
    Date rape? Friend zone? You're making it sound like it's a normal every day thing for men. Who does date rape?! Get real
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    (Original post by SophieSmall)
    If you're talking about conscription in war you can hardly blame women for that as it was men who made those decisions. Not women.
    I think most people are agreed that women do the majority of judging each other on appearance, adherence to family values, etc. What's the Daily Mail sidebar called again? Oh yeah, "Femail". So if men perpetuate their own oppression, so too do women.

    To surmount this inconvenient problem feminists have this narrative of patriarchy which abstracts away from "men vs. women" and says women are socialised into displaying patriarchal beliefs until the gospel of feminism liberates them.

    Also your history of gender relations leaves much to be desired on the subject of the First World War. You do know about the suffragettes' white feather campaign, don't you?
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    (Original post by Hirondelle127)
    Please don't put all women together in a box.

    The one who takes you out is the one who pays - that should be a rule. Or the one who picks the restaurant. If you're really worried about the person you're going out with being too expensive i.e. One takes a salad and the other has oysters, caviar and lobster, then you split the bill accordingly.

    I expect a minimum of curtesy from both men and women. I open the door for you, you say thank you. If you can see I am having trouble getting into a building as I am carrying a large amount of heavy bags, please hold the door open for me, I will say thank you, don't just slam it in my face because you're not bothered.

    Some women do humanities. They are not necessarily 'soft' subjects. If you can't formulate an argument properly, you can't do history - which many people (men included) cannot do. Many women do indeed do engineering at university for example, though I believe the lack of representation is probably due to the way girls are raised - not really encouraged to do Maths or Science, but praised for drawing for example. Young girls and boys should be encouraged in every single aspect of their education.

    Women are paid less than men. And yes, people are sexist.

    If a man takes on a strong, authoritative attitude, he is called confident and a strong leader. A woman is called nagging and *****y.

    If a man stays silent during a meeting, he is called composed. A woman is called clueless.

    If a man makes jokes, he is called fun and confident. A woman is called an airhead.

    That is only the majority of the time, not everyone is like that obviously.

    Some women have no shame in admitting being with a man for money.
    Others find it a disgrace. As do I. But I also find it rather sad that such a man would not be able to tell his girlfriend was a gold-digger - if you are that rich, you must have brains, yet you cannot see that this woman is treating you this badly?

    There are also men who go with richer women, just for their money. They are just spoken about a lot less. Or called 'mature'. Or the woman is shamed for having a 'toy boy'.

    Not all women feel that way and to be honest, I have a feeling you're probably a troll. Eh... Have a nice day.
    Well done for using absolutely subjective examples which cannot really be defined in any way.
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    (Original post by trustmeimlying1)
    agreed with what yeh said

    howya getting on btw any news
    Thanks
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    (Original post by scrotgrot)
    I think most people are agreed that women do the majority of judging each other on appearance, adherence to family values, etc. What's the Daily Mail sidebar called again? Oh yeah, "Femail". So if men perpetuate their own oppression, so too do women.

    To surmount this inconvenient problem feminists have this narrative of patriarchy which abstracts away from "men vs. women" and says women are socialised into displaying patriarchal beliefs until the gospel of feminism liberates them.

    Also your history of gender relations leaves much to be desired on the subject of the First World War. You do know about the suffragettes' white feather campaign, don't you?
    Sir I salute you
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    (Original post by JG1233)
    So that makes it not discriminatory and sexist?

    In traditional Indian households its often the mother who opposes the strict traditions on their daughters, i suppose that's not sexist then? Or 'Slut Shaming' etc. which most feminists like to bang on about, despite most of the people making these judgements are other women.
    Of course it's still sexist I never said anything to the contrary. But OP seems to be blaming women for everything, and I'm sorry he cannot blame us for conscriptions that happened years ago that weren't even our decision.

    I'm completely against all forms of sexism, that includes sexism against men (which happens frequently I will admit).
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    (Original post by scrotgrot)
    I think most people are agreed that women do the majority of judging each other on appearance, adherence to family values, etc. What's the Daily Mail sidebar called again? Oh yeah, "Femail". So if men perpetuate their own oppression, so too do women.

    To surmount this inconvenient problem feminists have this narrative of patriarchy which abstracts away from "men vs. women" and says women are socialised into displaying patriarchal beliefs until the gospel of feminism liberates them.

    Also your history of gender relations leaves much to be desired on the subject of the First World War. You do know about the suffragettes' white feather campaign, don't you?
    I'm not entirely sure what this has to do with what I said? But yes I am familiar with that. I am not a men vs women person. I'd love it if we could all see each other as individuals instead of a collection of sex organs.
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    (Original post by samsun53)
    Women put pressure in Society, if a man did not want to fight, women in society would brand him a coward, they put a white feather on a 14 year boy.

    I can't believe you people are soo uneducated and see things on the surface.
    Women do put pressure on society and so do men, it's not a competition on who puts more pressure on who.
    Though you are bringing up things from years ago that have NOTHING to do with society and gender roles now. Yes we can look back at the past and learn from our mistakes but using it against us now is absolutely pointless.
    Not to mention I'm not entirely sure where you are getting this from, because obviously all the women back in world war one and two WANTED to see their husbands, brothers and fathers go off to war. :rolleyes: But that is besides the point to the argument you put forward in your original post.
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    (Original post by SophieSmall)
    Women do put pressure on society and so do men, it's not a competition on who puts more pressure on who.
    Though you are bringing up things from years ago that have NOTHING to do with society and gender roles now. Yes we can look back at the past and learn from our mistakes but using it against us now is absolutely pointless.
    Not to mention I'm not entirely sure where you are getting this from, because obviously all the women back in world war one and two WANTED to see their husbands, brothers and fathers go off to war. :rolleyes: But that is besides the point to the argument you put forward in your original post.
    Go away, you are ignorant, I am done with you now.
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    (Original post by samsun53)
    Go away, you are ignorant, I am done with you now.
    No, I don't think I will go away OP. You have failed to say anything against what I have stated.
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    If you don't do it another beta will, simple as.
    They have the luxury of having multiple offers on deck, they can sub you with someone currently in their friend-zone.
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    (Original post by Tyrion_Lannister)
    You're honestly going to argue women weren't oppressed?
    Everyone is to a degree. But in the western world. women have it better.
 
 
 
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