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    (Original post by Quady)
    Or Service Management
    Or Strategy and Architecture
    Or Business Analysis
    Or Change Control and Testing...
    Which you will find is right across industries and not specific to IT.

    Software Development OTOH is very specific to IT
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    Computer science is not the same as IT. Just saying.
    Please, tell me moar
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    (Original post by PhysioMatt)
    'With minimal work'. Explains why you're unemployed if that's your attitude.


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    You are living in the land of the hypothetical. I can hypothesize too, look: all with 2.2's are dumb and/or too lazy to overcompensate for their lack of natural ability.
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    Go army. Be soldier.
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    (Original post by Reue)
    Please, tell me moar
    ok lol

    IT can be just about using applications like Open Access and creating database entry stuff or business etc. Computer science will go more into the theory of computing and involves lots of actual coding.
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    Im not even in Uni yet and I have a job that payes above minimum wage. I should be counting my lucky stars, if experience working at mcdonalds part time would help me in the slightest later on in life, that is...


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    (Original post by Juichiro)
    In primary education. For secondary, you need subject knowledge at undergrad level.
    But I really enjoy psychology and not many unis in london do primary teaching (full 3 year course)
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    (Original post by All-rounder)
    Im not even in Uni yet and I have a job that payes above minimum wage. I should be counting my lucky stars, if experience working at mcdonalds part time would help me in the slightest later on in life, that is...


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    It does it shows u handle pressure people know about there tayloristic methods
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    ok lol

    IT can be just about using applications like Open Access and creating database entry stuff or business etc. Computer science will go more into the theory of computing and involves lots of actual coding.
    Sooo computer science is an element within IT?
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    (Original post by Tom_Ford)
    What? I got a 2.1 from a RG uni in Law with relatively minimal work. I am still out of a job since graduation in 2013. It is very difficult out there, very few jobs to give and intense competition.
    Was it qualifying? Did you not get any TC's?
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    (Original post by Reue)
    Sooo computer science is an element within IT?
    The problem is, you learn on a CS course, what people learn in an IT course by default.
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    (Original post by MUN123)
    Computer science is a challenging degree compared to other degree. Other subjects you can get away with making mistakes and come out with a good grade whereas in my degree if we couldn't hand in a working program we would pretty much fail the module
    What? And a law degree isn't challenging?

    I think it's your attitude that's preventing you from getting a job. You're sitting on your high horse expecting a job simply because you got a degree in computer science....you got crappy honours. Perhaps it's time you accept your worthless degree and work for free to get experience
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    (Original post by fat_hobbit)
    The problem is, you learn on a CS course, what people learn in an IT course by default.
    Sorry, whys that a problem? :s
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    (Original post by Reue)
    Sorry, whys that a problem? :s
    IT is a watered down version of CS, that's why.
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    (Original post by Reue)
    Sooo computer science is an element within IT?
    I would say it is a more fundamental subject and more academically rigorousness that give a deeper understanding of computing and how ti works.

    "Computer science deals with the theoretical foundations of information and computation, together with practical techniques for the implementation and application of these foundations" - wiki

    IT just means Information Technology. On an IT course or apprenticeship you are probably going to be learning how to use software to solve problems or create databases with some basic coding. CS will probably involve more theory in programming languages and proper full on coding along with more mathematically in depth concepts.

    That's just my understanding, I could be wrong :dontknow:
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    (Original post by fat_hobbit)
    IT is a watered down version of CS, that's why.
    On a CS course you learn a watered down version of CS??
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    (Original post by Secretnerd123)
    But I really enjoy psychology and not many unis in london do primary teaching (full 3 year course)
    Well, you only need one place at one uni.
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    Mate, you can get a job at McDonald's!!!
    I know someone who was a bin man before getting into a very well paying, well respected field.
    I don't know how they did it, but they did.

    Hey i know people who sent out 100's of job applications before getting 1 interview, which he landed and earns a lot. He was even on benefits because he had no money.

    So just keep trying op, it will happen.
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    (Original post by Reue)
    On a CS course you learn a watered down version of CS??
    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    I would say it is a more fundamental subject and more academically rigorousness that give a deeper understanding of computing and how ti works.

    "Computer science deals with the theoretical foundations of information and computation, together with practical techniques for the implementation and application of these foundations" - wiki

    IT just means Information Technology. On an IT course or apprenticeship you are probably going to be learning how to use software to solve problems or create databases with some basic coding. CS will probably involve more theory in programming languages and proper full on coding along with more mathematically in depth concepts.

    That's just my understanding, I could be wrong :dontknow:
    That is really easy to do.

    CREATE DATABASE dbname;

    You don't need 3 years to learn it. 1 hour more like.

    TBH I don't know what happens in an IT degree, but it sounds like a waste of time from what you wrote.
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    (Original post by Reue)
    Sooo computer science is an element within IT?
    I think many people misunderstand the word "computer science". Computer science is an abstract subject that draws heavily from maths and formal logic in order to investigate problem solving. Computer programming (and not computer science) is a better word and it is this what kids might be learning from now on. And yes, you could say that computer programming is an element of IT (where IT is an incredibly loose term).
 
 
 
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