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All good things come to an end.

Bit annoyed that they couldn't say "his contract won't be renewed, but we will finish the current series", would at least give them the chance to offer some closure.
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Gutted the show is over.

Given that oisin tymon has said that up until now they had experienced a positive and successful relationship (i.e. it's not continued bullying), tymon didn't file a complaint and said he would continue working with him if he attended anger management. Surely, with all this in mind, they could have come to an alternative arrangement which didn't result in effectively cancelling the show.

This decision has punished pretty much everyone but clarkson. The fans of the show lose the show they love, oisin tymon is no longer a producer on the most successfully BBC programme (instead he is a producer on a show which is at best doomed to mediocrity), further more he will be the victim of vicious trolling and have a damaged reputation for years (wrongly). The BBC lose out on about 4million viewers and £50,000,000 a year.
Jeremy Clarkson however, will take a few months out, relax and then get a massive payrise with another channel
The main problem here is that the BBC is not democratically accountable - they get a cheque from the people regardless of how they perform. If the service was subscription only, they would be more pragmatic, but with this they want to prove that no single presenter "better" than the BBC. It's an issue of pride for them.

So if they were more revenue focused and less egotistical, they would simply send Oisin on a paid vacation and continue on with Jeremy. But they don't care about that. They don't care as much about the money as they do their unjustified ego.

I think everyone except the BBC benefits from this scenario. Clarkson, May and Hammond get to make a show without the PC-constraints on a channel that doesn't bother about that (Channel 4, maybe, or sky), and their fans can enjoy watching unrestrained Clarkson do whatever he likes.

Unfortunately I suspect the show will become biased. The good thing about the BBC arrangement was that TG didn't have to respond to sponsors and could be as honest as they liked.
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Jeremy Clarkson could face a police investigation into his attack on Top Gear producer Oisin Tymon, after the BBC fired the presenter over the incident on Wednesday.

The BBC has been asked by North Yorkshire police for a copy of executive Ken MacQuarrie’s report into the “fracas” that led to Clarkson’s departure from Top Gear.


Good!

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/mar/25/jeremy-clarkson-police-investigation-bbc-report-top-gear


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(Original post by blue n white army)
Gutted the show is over.

Given that oisin tymon has said that up until now they had experienced a positive and successful relationship (i.e. it's not continued bullying), tymon didn't file a complaint and said he would continue working with him if he attended anger management. Surely, with all this in mind, they could have come to an alternative arrangement which didn't result in effectively cancelling the show.
Mate, he physically attacked someone at work. That's not normal behaviour. If you think it is, your understanding of what is appropriate in the workplace would be so warped that you may struggle to hold down a job in future.

Tymon was probably well aware that being seen to "make a scene" would negatively affect his career in television.

Yorkshire police have asked BBC to provide them with certain tapes etc, and are apparently investigating. If Clarkson has committed an offence, he should be punished.

I have no doubt that if the perpetrator had been a young lad from an estate instead of a powerful TV host, you would have been calling for him to be imprisoned and the key thrown away
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This is outrageous. Clarkson is the greatest man who has ever lived, bar none. His genius is literally without compare and all those little jokes about 'slopes' and Mexican food prove it, far beyond the capacity of left wing morons to perceive. Why, Clarkson is like a beacon to the nation and all of us white old blokes who shout a lot in the street really, really worship him. I mean, heck, if the guy wants to go round breaking heads or swearing a lot, or demanding hotels be specially opened just for him, or throwing wobblies because he didn't get the fried bread in time, well, then quite right!

It also cannot be right that a man as inestimably marvellous as Professor Clarkson MBE should be forced to eat in mere restaurants with ordinary persons! Surely he should be served the sweetmeats of his desires on a golden tray.

Lord Clarkson is a role model, a citizen we can all love and trust and it is an honour for minor persons such as the Prime Minister to be condescended to by Sir Jeremy into his circle of 'friends'. I assume blows have been exchanged and why not? Cammie is such a snivelling little toad compared to Pope Jeremy. It really is beholden on world leaders to do as they are told by the man who knows his cars!

Also, few men are as good at breaking up bridges, driving into stuff, getting other people stuck in rivers and driving away or generally being a perfect ****.

I comment this marvel of a man to the house and demand that the head of the Director General, Tony Nobody, be brought to the Fuhrer, Herr Clarkson, forthwith.

Long live UKIP who paid for this ad.
Brava, my dear. Just exquisite :congrats:
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But since you are so keen on tradition, let's get back to the free speech issue. Traditionally, speech has not been free in this country. This is a passage from a law passed in the Tudor period;

That's your English tradition of free speech. You are harking back to a time that never existed. And personally, I think it's an insult to tradition if you are asserting traditions and histories that never existed

My lord, I just wanted to copy you into this comment as I thought you're of the intellectual disposition such that you might enjoy this Tudor statute (c.3 1&2 Phil&Mar).
I think it's quite silly to suggest that because of one law passed under one monarch in one period - of a nation thousands of years old and making up many millions of previous and future citizens - an entire tradition can be said to never have existed. Perhaps it began later, such as during Elizabeth I's reign when she insisted on the principle that she 'would not open windows into men's souls', and was bolstered by Milton's 'Areopagitica', the 1689 Bill of Rights, JS Mill's 'On Liberty' and a series of small victories from Darwin's battle with religious fundamentalists in attempting the publication of scientific theory to DH Lawrence's 'Lady Chatterley'. Perhaps it began with Magna Carta - the 'Great Charter of the Liberties' - and was bolstered by everything since, suffering many interruptions along the way. I do think such a tradition exists in this country despite many instances going against it. It is more of a tradition that has built up over time rather than having always existed fully formed (inevitably), such that wherever you find the union jack today - to paraphrase one of the workmen interviewed in Inside the Commons - you find liberty and democracy, to an extent that is more pronounced and assured than any other nation on earth precisely because of the long tradition of liberty we have in this country.
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It was definitely the correct decision and I expected it, but I am sad to see him leave top gear, no matter how much of a kn*b he was. It just won't be as good without him.
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I think it's quite silly to suggest that because of one law passed under one monarch in one period - of a nation thousands of years old and making up many millions of previous and future citizens - an entire tradition can be said to never have existed. Perhaps it began later, such as during Elizabeth I's reign when she insisted on the principle that she 'would not open windows into men's souls', and was bolstered by Milton's 'Areopagitica', the 1689 Bill of Rights, JS Mill's 'On Liberty' and a series of small victories from Darwin's battle with religious fundamentalists in attempting the publication of scientific theory to DH Lawrence's 'Lady Chatterley'. Perhaps it began with Magna Carta - the 'Great Charter of the Liberties' - and was bolstered by everything since, suffering many interruptions along the way. I do think such a tradition exists in this country despite many instances going against it.
Well the Magna Carta is still being used today in Parliament. In the courts segments from it are tossed about here and there. I think that the Magna Carta is the closest thing to tradition in this country and the entire point of it was freedom from those in power, at the time King John. So quoting one law passed under one specific monarch is, as Birk said, quite silly indeed.
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Mate, he physically attacked someone at work. That's not normal behaviour. If you think it is, your understanding of what is appropriate in the workplace would be so warped that you may struggle to hold down a job in future.

Tymon was probably well aware that being seen to "make a scene" would negatively affect his career in television.

Yorkshire police have asked BBC to provide them with certain tapes etc, and are apparently investigating. If Clarkson has committed an offence, he should be punished.

I have no doubt that if the perpetrator had been a young lad from an estate instead of a powerful TV host, you would have been calling for him to be imprisoned and the key thrown away
Of course it's not normal behaviour and thank you for the patronising response. It's not appropriate for the work place but I also think there are alternatives to just simply sacking him. I used to work in a restaurant, before I started the head chef had flipped one night and had a waiter up against the wall by his neck, he could have been sacked but instead he was put on leave for a couple of months and made to attend anger management before returning to work. Where I currently work one of the managers with bi-polar was out of control, there were complaints about her week in week out- she was put on leave and made to get her condition under control before returning to work. Employers have a duty of care to ALL their employees. clarksons personal problems have been well documented in the past year or so i think that ff he were an ordinary employee there might have been more of a case for taking action other than sacking. Unfortunately i think the BBC have been backed into a corner of needing to make a big statement and stating that no star is bigger than the organisation.


Your final point, no I wouldn't be calling for him to be locked up, I don't think that one punch is the end of the world like a lot of people do.
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Of course it's not normal behaviour and thank you for the patronising response. It's not appropriate for the work place but I also think there are alternatives to just simply sacking him. I used to work in a restaurant, before I started the head chef had flipped one night and had a waiter up against the wall by his neck, he could have been sacked but instead he was put on leave for a couple of months and made to attend anger management before returning to work. Where I currently work one of the managers with bi-polar was out of control, there were complaints about her week in week out- she was put on leave and made to get her condition under control before returning to work. Employers have a duty of care to ALL their employees. clarksons personal problems have been well documented in the past year or so i think that ff he were an ordinary employee there might have been more of a case for taking action other than sacking. Unfortunately i think the BBC have been backed into a corner of needing to make a big statement and stating that no star is bigger than the organisation.

Your final point, no I wouldn't be calling for him to be locked up, I don't think that one punch is the end of the world like a lot of people do.
Certainly less confident in my original reaction after reading this.
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the only person that I'd want to replace him, would be Boris
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It's amazing how many people think that the BBC is socialist...

It's the most watched show on earth, it might not be what's keeping the BBC on air but the shares will have taken a hit.
No, shares will not be affected. It's not a listed company.

Oh and a max loss of £50m from its £5bn annual revenue will not make much difference.

The threesome may sign to Sky, but they won't attract the same level of audience.


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It's a shame. I don't like cars, but Top Gear was a great show.

Still, I guess the BBC's hands are tied. You can't really punch a colleague and not be sacked, I suppose, although I thought they might have just fined him or suspended him. Clarkson did bring this on himself though.
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It was the correct decision, though I can't imagine Clarkson would have attacked someone unprovoked out of the blue like this (not that provoked would be okay either). Perhaps he has a history of this, since the BBC do have a habit of covering up far worse incidents. If there is any surprise it's that the BBC hasn't continued to pretend everything's okay.
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He didn't "assault" anyone. Assault is a very strong word. It was nothing. I can't BELIEVE they sacked him over this, shocking.
He called him an "Irish ****" that alone is enough to get anyone sacked and then he assaulted him feck sake he should be charged
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Correct decision
Yes totally agree. He was previously on his last warning, now this unprovoked attack - of course he should be sacked. :yep:
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Ultimately, though, do we really care? I mean, it's just a TV show.

If it's all going to work out on another channel, then great; there's no cause for complaint and everyone's happy.
People who like the show would care, presumably.

Moving to another channel would seem to be good for everyone; Top Gear has always been an oddity in the BBC stable.

Alternatively fining Clarkson would probably have made more sense than sacking him.
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Right decision IMO.

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"Controversial, but I think you should lose your job if you punch someone because you don't like ham. There I said it." - Frankie Boyle.
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Clarkson can be an arse but he's a bloody funny arse. He's the main character of the show which is a worldwide hit and sacking him because he was unpleasant and probably punched someone is a huge overreaction, just like going to the hospital with a bleeding lip, or many times before when they were making fuss over catching by a toe or a slope. The one time I think he really went over the line, which I condemn, was “one-eyed Scottish…”

Right now I hate BBC because they cancelled the rest of the show and only hurt the fans. I hope Jezza and the other two will be back soon on another channel.
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