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    baaaaack to OP's question, foreskin or nah?
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    (Original post by interact)
    rubbish, you're spouting rubbish. judaism is for jews, just like hinduism is for hindus.

    God only sent 3 missionary religions, christianity, islam and buddhism, if people wanna be religious, then they can only pick from those 3

    yeah, yeah they can say that they've converted to judaism but they'll just be fake jews
    Are you Jewish? Because I am, and have never heard this nonsense that you're spouting. If somebody converts to Judaism through the Orthodox process, they are Jewish, and regarded as so. My friend's mum converted to Judaism, and both her and my friend are considered entirely Jewish.
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    (Original post by simbasdragon)
    Are you Jewish? Because I am, and have never heard this nonsense that you're spouting. If somebody converts to Judaism through the Orthodox process, they are Jewish, and regarded as so. My friend's mum converted to Judaism, and both her and my friend are considered entirely Jewish.
    I agree.I have been thinking about this more and looked more in depth into both religions I think Judaism may be the religion I could convert to when I am older as I feel like Christianity accepts sin as natural and ok while Judaism believes anyone can be good if they want to.That is what i interpreted from what I've read anyway.
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    I agree.I have been thinking about this more and looked more in depth into both religions I think Judaism may be the religion I could convert to when I am older as I feel like Christianity accepts sin as natural and ok while Judaism believes anyone can be good if they want to.That is what i interpreted from what I've read anyway.
    Christianity believes anyone can be good too if they wish but 'being good' is variable so therefore is it enough? One persons good is another persons bad or, not good enough.

    I would ask you how do you decide who is good and who isn't? Where does the moral frame work come from, if it is from man then that isn't definitive.

    How good do you have to be to be accepted into an eternity with God?
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    (Original post by interact)
    rubbish, you're spouting rubbish. judaism is for jews, just like hinduism is for hindus.

    God only sent 3 missionary religions, christianity, islam and buddhism, if people wanna be religious, then they can only pick from those 3

    yeah, yeah they can say that they've converted to judaism but they'll just be fake jews
    Please don't say things like this since clearly you have no idea what you're talking about. In Judaism converts are welcome and extremely respected since they actually chose to be Jewish. It is true that Judaism is not missionary- Jews have never gone around trying to convince people to convert to Judaism, but that doesn't mean you can't convert.


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    (Original post by Anonymous1502)
    I agree.I have been thinking about this more and looked more in depth into both religions I think Judaism may be the religion I could convert to when I am older as I feel like Christianity accepts sin as natural and ok while Judaism believes anyone can be good if they want to.That is what i interpreted from what I've read anyway.
    Judaism doesn't believe in the orginal sin, all are born innocent. However, the conversion process lasts several years, and keeping Jewish laws and living a Jewish life is a big commitment, although many love it. I'd suggest exploring it a bit further.
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    (Original post by Racoon)
    Christianity believes anyone can be good too if they wish but 'being good' is variable so therefore is it enough? One persons good is another persons bad or, not good enough.

    I would ask you how do you decide who is good and who isn't? Where does the moral frame work come from, if it is from man then that isn't definitive.

    How good do you have to be to be accepted into an eternity with God?
    I think by being good they meant not sinning or at least not sinning between man and man- between man and God is different.


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    (Original post by simbasdragon)
    Judaism doesn't believe in the orginal sin, all are born innocent. However, the conversion process lasts several years, and keeping Jewish laws and living a Jewish life is a big commitment, although many love it. I'd suggest exploring it a bit further.
    This is very true. It's a long, difficult process and can only be done by someone who is truly committed.


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    (Original post by Foreverton)
    I think by being good they meant not sinning or at least not sinning between man and man- between man and God is different.


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    Its impossible not to sin. Even the best non sinning sinner sins
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    Its impossible not to sin. Even the best non sinning sinner sins
    Yeah obviously but there are those who make an active effort to you know keep it to a minimum and those who really don't care. Also I think it is impossible for laws between man and God but a lot easier between man and man. If you are a kind charitable etc person you are good no question about it.


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    (Original post by Foreverton)
    Yeah obviously but there are those who make an active effort to you know keep it to a minimum and those who really don't care. Also I think it is impossible for laws between man and God but a lot easier between man and man. If you are a kind charitable etc person you are good no question about it.


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    I hear what you are saying.

    Can I just ask you, do you believe God is spirit? How do you reach/communicate/know God if he is spirit?
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    (Original post by Racoon)
    I hear what you are saying.

    Can I just ask you, do you believe God is spirit? How do you reach/communicate/know God if he is spirit?
    That is probably the most difficult and unanswerable question. No one really knows what God is. However you can always reach Him. When we communicate with God it is not with our mouths and ears, it's with our soul.


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    (Original post by Foreverton)
    Please don't say things like this since clearly you have no idea what you're talking about. In Judaism converts are welcome and extremely respected since they actually chose to be Jewish. It is true that Judaism is not missionary- Jews have never gone around trying to convince people to convert to Judaism, but that doesn't mean you can't convert.


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    wrong but if jews wanna pollute their own religion, i don't care

    if people wanna convert to judaism, they're just not real jews but obviously if a wannabe jew has said to me that he's converted to judaism, ill say ok mate but in my mind ill just say fake jew
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    (Original post by Foreverton)
    That is probably the most difficult and unanswerable question. No one really knows what God is. However you can always reach Him. When we communicate with God it is not with our mouths and ears, it's with our soul.


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    I agree, it is a difficult question.

    Where do you get the bit I emboldened from?
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    (Original post by interact)
    wrong but if jews wanna pollute their own religion, i don't care

    if people wanna convert to judaism, they're just not real jews but obviously if a wannabe jew has said to me that he's converted to judaism, ill say ok mate but in my mind ill just say fake jew
    Please don't be anti-Semitic either thanks. And I'm not suggesting this it's a fact of which I'm 100% sure of- non-Jews can convert to Judaism. In the amidah which is one of the most important prayers in Judaism, we pray for 'the righteous converts'.


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    I agree, it is a difficult question.

    Where do you get the bit I emboldened from?
    Well I think a clear example is how much silent prayer we have. This is because we don't need to sing out in order to communicate with God. Also there are many examples of God being incorporeal, therefore how can we use our mouths and ears? If God is a spiritual being, then our would must be the way to communicate with him. Again this is just my opinion.


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    This is pretty important - it's almost impossible to convert to Judaism. You have to go to a special centre for a number of years and learn Hebrew, change your name etc. It's actually more of a race than a religion - Jews aren't concerned with converting people and you are a Jew if your mother is. So if you do want to convert, make sure you really really really want to convert, it's a huge commitment. You can't just switch.
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    (Original post by Foreverton)
    Well I think a clear example is how much silent prayer we have. This is because we don't need to sing out in order to communicate with God. Also there are many examples of God being incorporeal, therefore how can we use our mouths and ears? If God is a spiritual being, then our would must be the way to communicate with him. Again this is just my opinion.


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    In the Psalms (147) it says 'Sing out your thanks to the LORD; sing praises to our God with a harp...'

    Exodus 15:20,21 And Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a tambourine in her hand…

    Isaiah 12:5 “Sing praises to the Lord, for he has done gloriously; let this be made known in all the earth

    God delights in the praise of his people be it singing or playing instruments, he actually tells us to do it, the angels sing and there will be a lot of singing in heaven...
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    If you must follow a religion then Protestantism would probably be your best choice.
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    (Original post by Foreverton)
    Please don't be anti-Semitic either thanks. And I'm not suggesting this it's a fact of which I'm 100% sure of- non-Jews can convert to Judaism. In the amidah which is one of the most important prayers in Judaism, we pray for 'the righteous converts'.


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