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    (Original post by Bupdeeboowah)
    Mr Corbyn is a fine example.
    Yes sure.
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    (Original post by AlecRobertson)
    How successful was the Labour party between 1997 and 2005?
    Firstly when I asked you about the evidence, this is not evidence. One could argue that there are very few successes of the Coalition and Conservative governments. The main points they keep touting are the cutting of the deficit (which has grown under conservative rule), creating jobs (less unemployment, but people than ever on zero hours contracts, who are essentially unemployed except for casual work), greenest government ever (just released a statement saying it is unlikely they will meet emission targets, especially as subsidies for renewable energy have been slashed). The list goes on and on.

    Secondly I do not particularly see the Blair/Brown Labour era as left, they were viewed as left in relation to the Tories, but Blair had made a concious effort, which he was quite open about to shift the party to the right. I think it has been a long time since a truly left Labour were in power. I think after Labour shifted a lot of people pretty much lost sight of being left wing and settled for the centralist New Labour stance as the one they should rally behind more to prevent the right wing Tories getting in than anything else.
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    Academics are often either dreamy (read: charmingly romantic and naïve)/NIMBY ideologues or else not particularly socially/cognisant (read: dorks, divorced from reality), often operating within fairly inflexible and/or impractical intellectual frameworks (typically predicated on considerable 'received wisdom') - fine credentials for someone who sticks stubbornly to the left (and head in sand)

    A less sceptical interpretation might also allude to the desire that academics have to understand things in the name of human advancement, and that left wing politics has more to do with the advancement of humanity vs. individual fortune, than the politics of the right. I suppose I'm something of an academic, or have been previously, and my left wing views (there are some, believe it or not) are largely a product of these essential relations :beard:
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    One other thing is that academics rely on public money so even if they are earning a salary which would make them comfortably middle class, they want new funding for their research.
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    academics think that the proletariat are charming scamps.
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    It's not as dominant as you would think.
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    (Original post by The Rad Prince)
    One other thing is that academics rely on public money so even if they are earning a salary which would make them comfortably middle class, they want new funding for their research.
    Yes but why does that make them left wing?
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    Yes but why does that make them left wing?
    Because the left is more willing to fund public services, I'm not saying the academics are constantly demanding more funding are wrong as such, I'm sure science has many uses which benefit the general public, but they're not really as self-less as they make out.
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    (Original post by Nightwing_)
    Firstly when I asked you about the evidence, this is not evidence. One could argue that there are very few successes of the Coalition and Conservative governments. The main points they keep touting are the cutting of the deficit (which has grown under conservative rule), creating jobs (less unemployment, but people than ever on zero hours contracts, who are essentially unemployed except for casual work), greenest government ever (just released a statement saying it is unlikely they will meet emission targets, especially as subsidies for renewable energy have been slashed). The list goes on and on.

    Secondly I do not particularly see the Blair/Brown Labour era as left, they were viewed as left in relation to the Tories, but Blair had made a concious effort, which he was quite open about to shift the party to the right. I think it has been a long time since a truly left Labour were in power. I think after Labour shifted a lot of people pretty much lost sight of being left wing and settled for the centralist New Labour stance as the one they should rally behind more to prevent the right wing Tories getting in than anything else.
    You've mentioned Gordon Brown. Possibly the worst Prime Minister we've had, ever.

    Promised an end to boom and bust, borrowed and borrowed and borrowed. The reason our defecit is so high is because of him.

    Would you like to try again?
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    (Original post by AlecRobertson)
    You've mentioned Gordon Brown. Possibly the worst Prime Minister we've had, ever.

    Promised an end to boom and bust, borrowed and borrowed and borrowed. The reason our defecit is so high is because of him.

    Would you like to try again?
    Oh my god, do you literally only read what you want to read? I said I didn't agree with Blair or Browns leadership. Do you actually have anything to add to the conversation such as an actual structured argument as to why the right would be more beneficial to everyone?

    Also, although I'm not sticking up for Labours leadership the financial crisis was a GLOBAL phenomenon, not British, this was not Labours fault, the same way it wouldn't have been the Conserrvatives fault had they happened to have been in power at the time (there were plenty of countries that had right wing governments that experienced the crash so left/right leanings have little to no impact).
 
 
 
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