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    TSR Green Party
    16
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    TSR National Liberal Party
    6
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    TSR Conservative and Unionist Party
    45
    24.32%
    TSR Labour
    44
    23.78%
    TSR UKIP
    24
    12.97%
    TSR Liberal Party
    28
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    17
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    Would Rep but PRSOM. I'd give you a cheeky retweet but then every would find my twitter
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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    God no! Why would I show anyone my policies?

    That ladies and gentleman is exactly what the other parties have done. Here, let's evaluate the other parties pledges:

    Greens: 15. Nothing on the Economy, Foreign Affairs or Defence
    National Liberals: Are you actually kidding me?
    Conservatives: 5. 5 measly policies. You guys really do like looking to the past huh?
    Labour 7: Hardly better than the Tories. Reference Tory Tax Credit cuts even though they aren't canon. What happened to us not using real life parties to score political points?
    UKIP: 19. Again, Nothing on the Economy, Education, Health. Gone for Quantity over Quality.
    Socialists: 10. Missed out health and pretty much copied half of your last manifesto.

    Liberals: 17. A large amount but a mixed bag of different policies telling you, the voter, what you can expect in each policy area.

    What do the other leaders have to say for themselves?
    Not sure how major tax reform that should nearly entirely irradiate tax avoidance is looking to the past

    And how is 19 policies quantity over quality but 17 isn't?

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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    God no! Why would I show anyone my policies?

    That ladies and gentleman is exactly what the other parties have done. Here, let's evaluate the other parties pledges:

    Greens: 15. Nothing on the Economy, Foreign Affairs or Defence
    National Liberals: Are you actually kidding me?
    Conservatives: 5. 5 measly policies. You guys really do like looking to the past huh?
    Labour 7: Hardly better than the Tories. Reference Tory Tax Credit cuts even though they aren't canon. What happened to us not using real life parties to score political points?
    UKIP: 19. Again, Nothing on the Economy, Education, Health. Gone for Quantity over Quality.
    Socialists: 10. Missed out health and pretty much copied half of your last manifesto.

    Liberals: 17. A large amount but a mixed bag of different policies telling you, the voter, what you can expect in each policy area.

    What do the other leaders have to say for themselves?
    What are the numbers?
    Our manifesto? Some is new, some are old, but all are core socialist values - that's why it hasn't changed.
    Keep it simple.
    We'll change it when we achieve it.
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    On the topic of manifestos, I'm surprised that the Nat Libs even stood with that manifesto. They may be able to win a seat from people who are willing to take a risk, but I doubt I would risk my vote on that manifesto.

    However, I understand that you're new, as I've not even been here two months yet and sometimes do feel inexperienced. I make some outrageously dumb statements, suggestions etc. and it makes me look stupid.
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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    Would Rep but PRSOM. I'd give you a cheeky retweet but then every would find my twitter
    I'm glad you found it amusing!
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    PetrosAC That is half ok UKIP's manifesto because there is some issue over word length but I do not have the text document with me. UKIP's manifesto contains sections on defence, foreign affairs, economy, business, immigration, crime, and society; it should be seen shortly.
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    What are the numbers?
    Our manifesto? Some is new, some are old, but all are core socialist values - that's why it hasn't changed.
    Keep it simple.
    We'll change it when we achieve it.
    The numbers are the number of policies

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Have the Socialists used the same manifesto as last term...
    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    I'll admit our manifesto isn't the prettiest (I'd say the Tories have the nicest looking manifesto)
    We rewrote ours but it's the same format - if it's not broke don't fix it.

    No Petros, I think the Nat Libs win hands-down on the design front
    only party actually putting forward policies to tackle issues in pretty much all areas.
    We've addressed pretty much every area. And Health - it mentions the NHS.
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    Ive just spotted that the most authoritarian party in this house said that they were liberal
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    All the National Liberals really had to do was copy and paste some stuff from their original thread when the party was proposed, surely wouldn't have been that difficult...
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Ive just spotted that the most authoritarian party in this house said that they were liberal
    So did most parties

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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    PetrosAC That is half ok UKIP's manifesto because there is some issue over word length but I do not have the text document with me. UKIP's manifesto contains sections on defence, foreign affairs, economy, business, immigration, crime, and society; it should be seen shortly.
    I'm glad to hear that. Should have supported my manifesto amendment

    (Original post by Whiggy)
    I'm glad you found it amusing!
    I half enjoyed it, half found it amusing Now I know what you sound like

    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    What are the numbers?
    Our manifesto? Some is new, some are old, but all are core socialist values - that's why it hasn't changed.
    Keep it simple.
    We'll change it when we achieve it.
    Total Pledges

    Why not legislate for it so you don't have to keep pledging it?

    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Not sure how major tax reform that should nearly entirely irradiate tax avoidance is looking to the past

    And how is 19 policies quantity over quality but 17 isn't?

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    You're seriously content with just 5 pledges? That's not even a policy per month. How can the electorate expect your party to "lead a stable government" when they don't even know what you'll damn well do in Government

    We've covered the whole board. UKIP's 19 pledges were targeted in two areas.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    The numbers are the number of policies

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    Ohhhhh.
    Thanks.

    PetrosAC We've got 11/12 policies. There clearly needs to be a balance between next to nothing and too many to read or care about.

    Am I right?
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    (Original post by Lime-man)
    So did most parties

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    Yes but arguably that was true of most parties, other then the Tories. But UKIP are most definitely not liberal.
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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    I half enjoyed it, half found it amusing Now I know what you sound like
    I sound terrible when singing, worse when talking! People tell me that I sound posh when I'm talking...

    It's my turn to hear your voice next!
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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    God no! Why would I show anyone my policies?

    That ladies and gentleman is exactly what the other parties have done. Here, let's evaluate the other parties pledges:

    Greens: 15. Nothing on the Economy, Foreign Affairs or Defence
    National Liberals: Are you actually kidding me?
    Conservatives: 5. 5 measly policies. You guys really do like looking to the past huh?
    Labour 7: Hardly better than the Tories. Reference Tory Tax Credit cuts even though they aren't canon. What happened to us not using real life parties to score political points?
    UKIP: 19. Again, Nothing on the Economy, Education, Health. Gone for Quantity over Quality.
    Socialists: 10. Missed out health and pretty much copied half of your last manifesto.

    Liberals: 17. A large amount but a mixed bag of different policies telling you, the voter, what you can expect in each policy area.

    What do the other leaders have to say for themselves?
    It's quite simple really, for the Green Party at least, if we outlined all our policies we'd run out of words. The issues that we have outlined in this manifesto are the ones we are most passionate about; but also the three areas we left out were left out somewhat on purpose as these areas are in a constant flux and it's impossible to predict how things will be, so we didn't try to predict things that we quite simply didn't have the knowledge to predict.

    (Original post by Whiggy)
    https://twitter.com/shshshdiamond/st...36856850235392

    I could only take a 30-second snippet, as that's all that Twitter would allow.
    Awwww yeahhhhh

    I shall give my verdict in a few ticks (not that I actually know what the original song sounds like :rofl:)
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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    God no! Why would I show anyone my policies?

    That ladies and gentleman is exactly what the other parties have done. Here, let's evaluate the other parties pledges:

    Greens: 15. Nothing on the Economy, Foreign Affairs or Defence
    National Liberals: Are you actually kidding me?
    Conservatives: 5. 5 measly policies. You guys really do like looking to the past huh?
    Labour 7: Hardly better than the Tories. Reference Tory Tax Credit cuts even though they aren't canon. What happened to us not using real life parties to score political points?
    UKIP: 19. Again, Nothing on the Economy, Education, Health. Gone for Quantity over Quality.
    Socialists: 10. Missed out health and pretty much copied half of your last manifesto.

    Liberals: 17. A large amount but a mixed bag of different policies telling you, the voter, what you can expect in each policy area.

    What do the other leaders have to say for themselves?
    We have an entire list of detailed infrastructure plans on page one. 400 words was not enough.
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    (Original post by Whiggy)
    I sound terrible when singing, worse when talking! People tell me that I sound posh when I'm talking...

    It's my turn to hear your voice next!
    Hell no

    I've got a slight stammer when I talk and I definitely can't sing.
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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    I'm glad to hear that. Should have supported my manifesto amendment



    I half enjoyed it, half found it amusing Now I know what you sound like



    Total Pledges

    Why not legislate for it so you don't have to keep pledging it?



    You're seriously content with just 5 pledges? That's not even a policy per month. How can the electorate expect your party to "lead a stable government" when they don't even know what you'll damn well do in Government

    We've covered the whole board. UKIP's 19 pledges were targeted in two areas.
    We chose to take a format that works, talk about why not to vote for the other guys (why you and labour failed over the last 6 months), talk about what we have done, and then state the main policies. The tax reforms are no minor undertaking and will allow us to run the deficit or surplus we wish to fund all our spending. We are pledging ensuring national security and economic security, near eliminating tax avoidance unintended by government, helping people to be financially responsible and secure whilst improving education and, I'm yet to finish crunching the numbers, decreasing everybody's tax burden and increasing investment in Britain, at the very least cutting the taxes of the very poorest in society.

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    (Original post by Andy98)
    It's quite simple really, for the Green Party at least, if we outlined all our policies we'd run out of words. The issues that we have outlined in this manifesto are the ones we are most passionate about; but also the three areas we left out were left out somewhat on purpose as these areas are in a constant flux and it's impossible to predict how things will be, so we didn't try to predict things that we quite simply didn't have the knowledge to predict.
    We have you, Rakas and Nigel saying you've run out of words when the house should have supported my amendment.


    (Original post by Rakas21)
    We have an entire list of detailed infrastructure plans on page one. 400 words was not enough.
    You had 450. Again, we have yourself, Andy and Nigel complaining about lack of enough words, yet most of you completely opposed my manifesto amendment which would have solved this problem.

    Furthermore, they don't have to be completely detailed. What are you doing on Health? Education? Foreign Affairs? Defence?
 
 
 
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