Parliament should not invoke Article 50 - the referendum was a farce

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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    So many people coming forwards in the media this morning to say that their Leave vote was just a protest and they "never expected it to actually happen".
    Not as many as you think, depending on whether you believe the DailyMail or not :

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Number-10.html

    I'll quote: 'A Mail on Sunday poll showed seven per cent of those who voted Leave, equal to more than one million people, now regret having done so. Four per cent of Remain voters also regretted their decision'

    So that implies that if anyone who didn't agree with their choice switched to the opposing side : the result would approximately be 52-48 for remain, which is within the margin of error of the poll and doesn't take into account that support for the status-quo in any referendum seems to turn on it after any referendum, such as in Scotland.
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    (Original post by pol pot noodles)
    They were when the EU is seen as part of the 'establishment'.



    If you think UKIP will decline if the UK doesn't leave the EU then you're absolutely barmy. Your entire outlook on pretty much everything makes it clear you live in an isolated bubble without any connection to the real world beyond what you read in the Guardian. You'll also have to forgive me if I'm not confident in your predictions anymore after seeing you peg Remain at winning by twenty points.

    People like her are completely dangerous. I am actually afraid of her views, they just seem fascist to me.
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    Vote Leave campaign is busy removing its website links, Guardian reports just now.

    Looks like they don't want all those false promises to stay open to public gaze.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Vote Leave campaign is busy removing its website links, Guardian reports just now.

    Looks like they don't want all those false promises to stay open to public gaze.
    the sitemap has not been redacted yet:

    http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/sitemap.xml
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    (Original post by the bear)
    the sitemap has not been redacted yet:

    http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/sitemap.xml
    That's Leave all over, they don't think things through.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    That's Leave all over, they don't think things through.
    this would appear to be a key document:

    http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/...funding_crisis
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    Great News !!! Easter Eggs will be 8.3% cheaper now the evil shackles of EU trade restriction have been smashed

    http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/...e_egg_spensive
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    don't forget our weekly subscription:

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    Brexiteers need to rally to expedite Article 50.

    Don't put up with the delay tactics.
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    (Original post by pol pot noodles)
    If you think UKIP will decline if the UK doesn't leave the EU then you're absolutely barmy.
    Yep. It would be completely delusional to expect UKIP to do anything other than dominate swathes of England that voted for Brexit at the next GE if the 'political class' plays directly into the UKIP narrative of them betraying the people. Personally I would have thought that obvious.

    Some Bremainians seem set on the idea that this vote was a 'howl of anger' by people who felt ignored by politicians, and yet seem to think they'll have no issue with being flatly ignored on this :confused:

    Another point, though. We really need to teach and emphasise civics in schools, because apparently some people don't know how to be good citizens in a democracy. If you vote, it is your duty to take it seriously. Even if it's an insignificant number, and even if it's irrelevant to the legitimacy of the result (which it is), having anyone vote in a referendum for something they didn't want because they thought it wouldn't happen anyway is incredible. I have no more words for it. Just incredible.
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    the Brexit Shop is closed :emo:

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    (Original post by Tortle)
    Brexiteers need to rally to expedite Article 50.

    Don't put up with the delay tactics.
    It doesn't make any sense to trigger a negotiation before you have a team to negotiate and at least an outline of what you want. Triggering the article now would be a terrible idea.
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    (Original post by TimmonaPortella)
    It doesn't make any sense to trigger a negotiation before you have a team to negotiate and at least an outline of what you want. Triggering the article now would be a terrible idea.
    Then we need to put forth a leader willing to negotiate now, it clearly isn't Boris.
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    (Original post by Tortle)
    Then we need to put forth a leader willing to negotiate now, it clearly isn't Boris.
    I agree that would be ideal, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen. Anyway, maybe not rushing into it would be best.

    It very well may be Boris, by the way. He's one Tory leadership election away from being in charge.
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    (Original post by Tortle)
    Then we need to put forth a leader willing to negotiate now, it clearly isn't Boris.
    Whoever it is, it will take until September.

    The best strategy is to get Micheel Gove to lead a project to get preparation under way before that time so that the new PM can hit the negotiations running.

    We should not trigger article 50 until we are ready.
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    (Original post by illegaltobepoor)
    If the Government doesn't invoke article 50 you are going to see a Ukraine style riot.

    I'm sorry but the banners have already been called from the most serious neo-nazi's to the regular eurosceptic's. This will be civil war between the North & the South if you carry on with this coup on democracy.

    In event of this happening there a good chance you will loose. You've only ever had to deal with 1 group of the right-wing on the streets. Now your going to get all of them in one go.

    Its so bad even us dooms day preppers are being asked to join the fray.

    I hope you realise what your getting yourself into here.

    This isn't some petty challenge where the EDL will be mouthing at the UAF. It will be a full blown arab spring show down.
    Indeed. You can only put the boot down for so long, eventually a revolt will take place.

    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Note the fascist threats of violence there. The true face of UKIP and the reality of Brexit 'politics'.

    Not since the 1930s and Oswald Moseley has this country faced such a threat from the hate-filled extreme right.
    Wrong. This isn't hatred from the right, this is a retaliation from the right in response to having democracy broken down by the fascist left, such as yourself. We've suffered long enough and a coup on the referendum by left wing fascists will be the final straw. If you feel that strongly about the result then gtfo of the country, don't force everyone else to conform to your twisted world view.
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    (Original post by Peroxidation)
    Indeed. You can only put the boot down for so long, eventually a revolt will take place .



    Wrong. This isn't hatred from the right, this is a retaliation from the right in response to having democracy broken down by the fascist left, such as yourself. We've suffered long enough and a coup on the referendum by left wing fascists will be the final straw. If you feel that strongly about the result then gtfo of the country, don't force everyone else to conform to your twisted world view.
    From the tone of some of the postings coming up, I think a lot of UKIP supporters think they now own the country and can swagger around it like stormtroopers, demanding others leave.

    How long can it be before Nige starts issuing SS uniforms and demanding that we wear different coloured triangles and stars?
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    36% of 18-24 year olds voting is a farce :lol:
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    How long can it be before Nige starts issuing SS uniforms and demanding that we wear different coloured triangles and stars?

    Oh grow up.
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    (Original post by Good bloke)

    We should not trigger article 50 until we are ready.
    which is never.
 
 
 
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