Banning the burkini is misogynist

what do you mean I don't understand your point

The mayor says that as these outfits are recommended by ISIS, we should ban them.

He hasn't said that burkini wearers were terrorists, but that they -- unconsciously or not -- participate in their propaganda. I agree with him.

You are saying nudity laws are to protect children but in other cultures women walk round topless which would be indecent exposure here, so how can you judge what people in other places find distressing or not without being a part of French culture?

You are saying nudity laws are to protect children but in other cultures women walk round topless which would be indecent exposure here, so how can you judge what people in other places find distressing or not without being a part of French culture?

I agree with this ban, how dare women try to cover up when men don't want to see that! They want to see our boobs and arse and we all know that women should base their life decisions on what men want. Of course how could we be so stupid as to think that we have any say in our own lives and how we dress!

Don't make out as though covering your body is banned.


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Yes you're right actually it's not banned, it's only banned when its related to Islam

It's basically victim blaming. There will be Muslim women who will now not be able to go to the beach. How is this liberating them?

If you care about oppressed Muslim women stop punishing them.

Well, I don't think they are being disingenous at all when it comes to the burqa, niqab, or "burqini". The fact that you think that makes me assume that you have difficulty thinking beyond our cultural framework.

I find the wearing of these Islamic garbs far more offensive than someone being nude. As a human being myself, I don't find the human body offensive, but I am rather offended by people who think it is, and clothes like the burqini exist in part to cover the body because of the idea that it is offensive. It also tells me that the woman wearing it has been frightened by her religion into wearing it, as it is clearly not particularly practical compared to a standard swimsuit. I dislike the idea that an ideology frightens women into covering their body, and thinking of their body as offensive, by threatening them with eternal damnation. That's pretty messed up. Some women may feel pressured to wear certain things by our culture, but it's certainly rare for them to wear things out of fear of an eternity of torture. So yes, there are two reasons I'm offended by the burkini: it suggests that the human body is offensive or shameful, and it is reeks of subjugation.

Next I'd like to take you up on that "sexualisation" comment. Maybe if we saw more people naked, we would actually become more used to the body and think of it more than merely an explicit sex object. We always will be physically attracted to other people, and that's a good thing. It's not good though when you get to the point where a flash of flesh is enough to drive men crazy with sexual excitement, and unfortunately in countries where women cover themselves from head to toe this is exactly what can happen, thus why we have had young, repressed men from Islamic countries going crazy and assaulting women in Germany and Sweden. To those men, any display of flesh means "screw me". Not a great situation.

Moreover, is there another item of clothing that reduces a woman's body to merely a sex toy more than the burqa? Think of it this way: the burqa basically exists to hide the body to stop men from getting exicited by seeing it.

Here are two really common metaphors that I always see Muslims use in defense of veiling.

Firstly: "If you leave a sweet unwrapped, why should you be surprised when flies collect on it?"

This is thinking of the female body as a consumable commodity.

Secondly: "The burqa isn't sexist. If you have a precious jewel, do you go around flashing it to everyone, or do you keep it safe, away from prying eyes? This is how we view our women"

This is reducing women to a purchasable object which you keep simply to look at.

The burqa or burqini basically says that a woman's body is an explicit, sordid, sexual object that should be hidden, rather like a dirty magazing being put on the top shelf. Additionally, there is no society that is more utterly obsessed with sex than societies such as Saudi Arabia's. Sure, they are obsessed with repressing it, but they are obsessed none the less, and it probably shapes their society more than anything else.

It is. Women of all faiths should have the freedom to choose how they dress.


We can't claim to have a monopoly on freedom if that freedom is not extended to Muslims.

When did ISIS recommend wearing burkinis? To them a woman shouldn't be swimming on the beach and her face shouldn't be uncovered. What nonsense.