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    (Original post by james813)
    It's 2016 and we're seriously still talking in terms of left/right wing!! Common sense matters much more than political stubbornness.
    Common sense is a lot more subjective than some people seem to think. Some people think communism is common sense.
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    (Original post by inhuman)
    The problem is that that "lens of reality" is quite tinted, isn't it?And "objective fact" is more like "subjective fact".

    And I personally despise Milo. He is no doubt clever and great at debating. But far too often he is intellectually dishonest to push his agenda. You can't respect someone like that...
    I am not sure that I would call it "subjective fact". The facts they cite are often true. However, it's their interpretation of that data is what differentiates people.

    For instance, with Black people getting arrested in America disproportionately. One person could say it was racism, somebody else could say it is because black people commit more crime.
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    (Original post by inhuman)
    The problem is that that "lens of reality" is quite tinted, isn't it?And "objective fact" is more like "subjective fact".

    And I personally despise Milo. He is no doubt clever and great at debating. But far too often he is intellectually dishonest to push his agenda. You can't respect someone like that...
    I'm a scientist, I don't deal in subjective nonsense, just raw data. That process of analyzing raw data plonked me firmly in the alt-right category.

    I respect Milo because very few nowadays have the balls to voice unpopular opinions. Most just cower in fear of being branded a racist/islamophobe/xenophobe/whatever.
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    Because TSR is full of cucks who genuinely can't understand that people have different opinions to them and can't accept objective FACTS.
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    (Original post by Peroxidation)
    I'm a scientist, I don't deal in subjective nonsense, just raw data. That process of analyzing raw data plonked me firmly in the alt-right category.

    I respect Milo because very few nowadays have the balls to voice unpopular opinions. Most just cower in fear of being branded a racist/islamophobe/xenophobe/whatever.
    Saying things like "I must be the only racist whose sucked on a black ****" is an unpopular opinion? No, it is a ******** headline grabbing phrase that has no basis in "raw data".

    You know, I get a lot **** said to me because I personally disagree with the Islamic ideology. I am by no means some liberal cuck. But from my point of view, anyone who would go to the alt-right could not possibly be objective at all.
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    It's also full of people who think that the Guardian is a more credible source than Breitbart, and that if MPs reversed the brexit decision, it would be honourable and democratic.
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    (Original post by inhuman)
    Saying things like "I must be the only racist whose sucked on a black ****" is an unpopular opinion? No, it is a ******** headline grabbing phrase that has no basis in "raw data".

    You know, I get a lot **** said to me because I personally disagree with the Islamic ideology. I am by no means some liberal cuck. But from my point of view, anyone who would go to the alt-right could not possibly be objective at all.
    What's the problem with him saying that? It's a non-issue, and a personal issue. When Milo deals with political and social issues, he is absolutely factual and objective. In plenty of his old debates, he will blow away SJWs who just think they can turn up and debate subjectively, whereas he does his research and learns the facts.
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    (Original post by richpanda)
    What's the problem with him saying that? It's a non-issue, and a personal issue. When Milo deals with political and social issues, he is absolutely factual and objective. In plenty of his old debates, he will blow away SJWs who just think they can turn up and debate subjectively, whereas he does his research and learns the facts.
    Because he is using it exactly to try and make a statement when what he says has no bearing on that statement.

    The fact that you think he can say that and in the next breath accuse others of being subjective...no wonder you are a fan.
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    (Original post by richpanda)
    Stop with the whataboutery, you cuckservative
    Prove my point.

    Have nice evening.
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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    Yugoslavia wasn't a particularly diverse country by European standards. Serbs, Croats and Bosniaks are ethnically the same people and they all speak the same language (although it has various different names).
    Yugoslavia was quite diverse

    Serbs are Eastern Orthodox, Croats are Catholic, Bosniaks are both and also Muslim, Kosovars are mostly Muslim, etc etc

    History also separated them strongly (Croats were part of the AustroìHungarian Empire until 1918, Serbs were part of the Ottoman Empire then Independent etc etc

    Yugoslavia had absolutely no historical identity - it was the product of a few intellectuals, in 1918, who dreamed about a mythical common "Illyrian" identity

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    (Original post by SamDrake)
    As the title says. I have a Theory as to why, it being a website for the millennial generation and as some of you may be aware, the millennial generation has been brainwashed by the liberal/leftist agenda since they were going to primary school. Hence why the younger generation think the way they do - liberal, overly compassionate to bad entities, no boarders, citizens of the world and terrified of offending anyone who isn't white.
    Extreme far right checking in!
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    (Original post by richpanda)
    Because TSR is full of cucks who genuinely can't understand that people have different opinions to them and can't accept objective FACTS.
    I thought that what with Brexit and all we have decided that experts and facts are for cucks?
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    (Original post by Marked Target)
    Isn't paying taxes supposed to cover this?
    That's the point. Other peoples' money.
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    That's the point. Other peoples' money.
    Do you not pay taxes?
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    (Original post by Marked Target)
    Do you not pay taxes?
    Not much no (I'm unemployed and have been or on low paid min wage jobs)... Certainly a lot less than Rue. Yet I still get to use roads and mental health stuff on the NHS. Thanks Rue :top:

    The "spending other people's money" quib made by people like rue is used to make fun of anyone who wants to use tax to fund services aimed at combating some form of inequality or to provide a public service.
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    (Original post by Peroxidation)
    Wow. You people have no idea do you? The alt-right is about viewing the world through the lens of reality and running civilisations with policies based on objective fact instead of utopian idealism.
    What does this even mean?

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    (Original post by mariachi)
    Yugoslavia was quite diverse

    Serbs are Eastern Orthodox, Croats are Catholic, Bosniaks are both and also Muslim, Kosovars are mostly Muslim, etc etc

    History also separated them strongly (Croats were part of the AustroìHungarian Empire until 1918, Serbs were part of the Ottoman Empire then Independent etc etc
    All true, but nearly all European countries share similar histories and are just as diverse if not more so that Yugoslavia ever was.
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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    All true, but nearly all European countries share similar histoties and are just as diverse if not more so that Yugoslavia ever was.
    Similar histories being constant warfare?
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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    All true, but nearly all European countries share similar histoties and are just as diverse if not more so that Yugoslavia ever was.
    no : most (if not all) European States can go back to either Statehood or a deep national feeling which predates by a long time the year 1918. The other hybrid creation of the 1919 Peace Treaties (Czechoslovakia) didn't last long, either

    there is then the case of Belgium, which was also a quite diverse, artificial creation (but back in 1830) and which is also in the process of splitting up

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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    Well the term left and right wing comes from the french revolution. People who wanted rid of the monarchy and were pro the revolution were left wing. Liberals and socialist can be described as left wing. Liberals just think that the replacement of serf and lord with proletariat and capitalist brings the equality, liberty and fraternity proclaimed by the revolution. Socialists think we can only have equality, liberty and fraternity by progressing beyond serfdom, capitalism, towards social ownership of the economy so society is not built around dominator and dominated.

    Liberals fetisize private property, But can be all about equality when it comes to human rights and racism etc.

    Liberals are all about equality through the prism of private property and markets. So absolutely no aristocracy or kings, no racism, no homophobia no sexism. Although slavery is fine, since slaves are private property :indiff: The amount of support for slavery among liberals...
    It's no longer appropriate to use that outdated system from the French Revolution; the terms no longer mean what they did back then. For example, the left wing in the French Revolution were those who did not support the government. You would think that left wing nowadays means those who do not support big government then. Yet, that's not the case, with 'left wingers' supporting economic intervention and nationalisation, brought about by very active government.

    Liberals are right-wing because they view society as atomistic, meaning that it is composed of individuals and cannot be treated as a single group. They believe that people should be free to do what they want as long as it doesn't impact other people. Liberals are suspicious of government and want as little economic intervention as possible. Modern liberals are less opposed to government interfering in society, but this is only to 'help people help themselves', and this does not make them left-wing, nowhere near the socialists.

    TL;DR: The categorisation from the French Revolution is now outdated and should not be used. Right wing = free markets, left wing = big government.
 
 
 
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