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    (Original post by The_Opinion)
    Any shred that he once had has long gone.
    more unconditional bias against anyone who defends migrants/Islam

    grow up please
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    more unconditional bias against anyone who defends migrants/Islamgrow up please
    More unconditional bias against anyone who is sad enough to post almost exclusively regarding Islam yet pretends to not be a Muslim. Fixed it for you.
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    Its beyond me why you expect me to trawl through 10+ yBut apparently I'm the one who needs to prove it, probably because of my tolerant agenda.

    I don't expect a respnse.
    You ask others for proof, yet don't expect to provide it yourself. Do you see the special pleading or lack of consistency in that?
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    (Original post by The_Opinion)
    Any shred that he once had has long gone.
    What can I say? I was being generous.
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    (Original post by The_Opinion)
    More unconditional bias against anyone who is sad enough to post almost exclusively regarding Islam yet pretends to not be a Muslim. Fixed it for you.
    Prove that I'm Muslim please.
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    Italy should just send them back.
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    You ask others for proof, yet don't expect to provide it yourself. Do you see the special pleading or lack of consistency in that?
    I can't prove that all immigrants are integrating, but I can use basic logic to disprove that they aren't. No one has sourced which explicitly say that they are all integrated or not, but if you look at Muslim immigration in the past, its safe to extrapolate.
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    Prove that I'm Muslim please.
    A good start would be

    Say according to modern standerds Mohammed would be considered a pedophile and as a result some modern interpretations of Islam would consider pedophila as acceptable.
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    Prove that I'm Muslim please.
    Was Mohammed a pedophile?
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    I can't prove that all immigrants are integrating, but I can use basic logic to disprove that they aren't. No one has sourced which explicitly say that they are all integrated or not, but if you look at Muslim immigration in the past, its safe to extrapolate.
    The example of the Turks in Germany, in my link, shows that Moslems don't integrate well. Many live in ghettoes wherever they go in Europe, and shun the locals. Their preachers tell them not to integrate, in many cases, and to have nothing to do with unbelievers.
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    (Original post by MeYou2Night)
    Was Mohammed a pedophile?
    He married a six year old and consummated the marriage when she was nine. You draw your own conclusions.
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    (Original post by MeYou2Night)
    Was Mohammed a pedophile?
    He ****ed a child. So we if we judge he him today then YES.

    Tell me what do you call someone who slept with a nine year old.
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    He married a six year old and consummated the marriage when she was nine. You draw your own conclusions.
    (Original post by BaconandSauce)
    He ****ed a child. So we if we judge he him today then YES. Tell me what do you call someone who slept with a nine year old.
    I was asking the user who wants prove he's a Muslim. I have found that Muslims, including ones in this site and ones I used to consider friends (so your "normal orindary Muslim", defend it and deny it was and condone its' sexual relationship win a 9 year old.

    I know it was a pedophile (yes a pedophole is an it)
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    (Original post by MeYou2Night)
    I was asking the user who wants prove he's a Muslim. I have found that Muslims, including ones in this site and ones I used to consider friends (so your "normal orindary Muslim", defend it and deny it was and condone its' sexual relationship win a 9 year old.

    I know it was a pedophile (yes a pedophole is an it)

    I understand. It's hard to listen to Muslim friends justly pedophilia.

    But they do.
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    (Original post by MeYou2Night)
    I was asking the user who wants prove he's a Muslim. I have found that Muslims, including ones in this site and ones I used to consider friends (so your "normal orindary Muslim", defend it and deny it was and condone his sexual relationship win a 9 year old.

    I know it was a pedophile (yes a pedophole is an it)
    There is only one valid defence, that morality has changed since the time of Mohammed. Plenty of Europeans married at similar ages. Of course, that defence merely shows that the Islamic model of behaviour is not true for all men in all times after all. *Hehe.

    Apologists will tie themselves in knots with rubbish about girls being mature earlier in those days but that just makes them look silly.
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    Its beyond me why you expect me to trawl through 10+ year old sources which are irrelevant to the topic of the thread.
    Sir, I'm sorry, although boiling inside while looking at this, I'm telling as polite as I can:
    It is against my knowledge, that 10, 15 or even 20 years would change much in this case. In both cases we are disputing immigration from Africa and the Middle East. Mentality and level of education couldn't change much. Processes in societies are too slow for that. If some certain problems with immigrants from particular parts of the world occured 10 or 15 years ago, it is indeed very likely that they continue to take place now,
    Especially, if economical situation is more difficult and aversion rises.

    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    friendlier countries encourage better integration - not the divisive, offensive attitudes that you people peddle.
    This article says some truth too, but I doubt If radical muslims are willing to integrate with modern secular societies.


    It is a key factor as long as we disucuss relatively secular and willing to work people.

    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    discrimination deriving from the natives who hate immigrants is actually a key factor in this issue.
    What evidence do you have, to claim that this a key factor, not a minor or equal and one of many?
    How do you expect them to integrate if with their knowledge of languages and and their skills they stand very little chance to find any job even if they were native Europeans, and as the truck drivers who have to go through Calais will tell you, many of them have no respect for law or private property?

    In Poland we didn't provide any language courses for Vietnamese or Chinese people, our social handouts are extremely low and none, to my knowledge were given to illegals (and thousands of Vietnamese people used to live here illegally for years.) Today we have Vietnamese districs and villages, and Chinese people can be met quite often. We have absolutely no problem whatsoever with them. Lots of them used to work for equivalent 3 pences per hour. Still, nobody suffered from famine, and lots of these people advanced to middle class, they send children to schools, and they all learn Polish on their own.

    On the other hand, we provided lots of aid to Chechens, and millions of euro were spent for professional activation of Romani people. The Chechens keep stealing and terrorizing neighbourhoods. The Romanis refuse to take any job. The Chechens, we may add, were welcomed as heroes fighting against the Russian opression (Poles are generally Russophobic, so we stupidly like everthing and everybody that is against Russia)
    Culture matters, ignoring this is a wishful thinking.
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    (Original post by TheDailyMan)
    Its the swarm of the locusts
    this
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    (Original post by MeYou2Night)
    Was Mohammed a pedophile?
    perhaps, perhaps not, but what matters is that it was 1500 years ago, pedophilia was more common back then across the entire planet, and not just within the Islamic community.
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    (Original post by BaconandSauce)
    A good start would be

    Say according to modern standerds Mohammed would be considered a pedophile and as a result some modern interpretations of Islam would consider pedophila as acceptable.
    if thats what I need to say to prove to you strange people that I'm not Muslim, fine.
    mohamed can be considered a pedophile, but its worth noting that this was one and a half ******* millennia ago, pedophilia was more common across the entire globe, and not just in the Middle East
 
 
 
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