The Alternative Economics League Table (TAELT) 2009 Watch

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tbh aabb is as good as aaa lol
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tbh aabb is as good as aaa lol
Not saying it is not as good.
Just splitting off which AAA unis you can get into without getting 3 As.

e.g. a Firm of Cambridge with an insurance of Notts makes a lot more sense than a Firm of Cambridge with an insurance of UCL.
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LOL market determined sounds a bit weird tbh..go for like..erm..."alternative" or"independent"?
Well I want a functional description.

Also to alternative to what?
indepedenet of what?
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independant and alternative of/to the newspaper rankings :P
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I have moved York to the 2nd AAB group as:
i)It accepted students with York offers who only achieved ABB
ii) I thought i) would happen
iii) The main (only?) aim of this table should be to guide students as to what uni to apply to. York are reasonable in terms who they make offers to. e.g. just because you do not have the greatest AS results you can still get an offer from them. Hence putting them with the "AAB (ABB)" unis seems a less misleading representation.
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LOL market determined sounds a bit weird tbh..go for like..erm..."alternative" or"independent"?
Alternative sounds good:
"Paul's Alternative Economics League Table"
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I am thinking of naming the different groups.
e.g.
Group 1 AAA
Group 2 AAA
Group 3 AAB
Group 4 AAB

or maybe better
Group 1.1 AAA
Group 1.2 AAA
Group 2.1 AAB
Group 2.2 AAB

Further I have a conceptulisation for when unis should be in different groups. If two unis are in different groups then it should be reasonable to have the higher as a Firm and the lower as an insurance.
e.g. (Warwick, York) makes sense
(Warwick,Bath) does not.
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I dont think there are enough unis to even group em..

its kinda obvious it goes like

lse/oxb/war/ucl
notts/bristol/dur (tbh I still rate notts and brist above dur lol )
rest
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I dont think there are enough unis to even group em..

its kinda obvious it goes like

lse/oxb/war/ucl
notts/bristol/dur (tbh I still rate notts and brist above dur lol )
rest
Well the table is not (directly) about what is good or bad.
It is about what offers unis give and what grades they will accept.
And partitioning them on that basis.
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Yes it is a personal name.
And it may be overly personal
But I feel personal about the table. And I have decided what sort criterea to use and how to break up the overly large AAA, AAB, ABB groups.

Further all the other league tables have names:
Times "Good Univeisity Guide"
Indepedent: "The Complete University Guide"
Gaurdian "University Guide"
So why can't I have one?
Yes true, I was thinking more of newcomers (which we get a lot of and many of which do not post) who might scratch their head and think "who the heck is Paul?" This above brands are well established. But it is your table so it does make sense and it'll make a whole lot of sense when they click on the link.

I'm all out of creativity this time of night, maybe... "Paul's Economics Entry League" or feature the word 'undergrad,' or 'league table' or 'alternative' as prospectiveeconomist suggested :dontknow:
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(Original post by silent ninja)
Yes true, I was thinking more of newcomers (which we get a lot of and many of which do not post) who might scratch their head and think "who the heck is Paul?" This above brands are well established. But it is your table so it does make sense and it'll make a whole lot of sense when they click on the link.

I'm all out of creativity this time of night, maybe... "Paul's Economics Entry League" or feature the word 'undergrad,' or 'league table' or 'alternative' as prospectiveeconomist suggested :dontknow:
I think I should be prepared to be associated with my work.
And if I don't have my name at the front then it sounds to me like something is missing:
"Alternative Economics League Table"?
"An Alternative Economics League Table"?
"The Alternative Economics League Table"?

I know what you mean about no one knowing who I am. And yes there will be a lot of newbies. But we already have Helenia's big thread of contraception and Juno's Guide to Results Day and Clearing 2008.
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what has contraception got to do with you pauly :ninja:
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A few changes today.
i) the 1st post is now in FAQ style.
ii)moved UCL up
iii)moved Sussex and Loughbourgh down. (Sussex makes BBB offers and Loughbourgh only demand 200 points from A-levels).
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Updated Leed's entry to reflect that is a Ba
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Here is the IB version sorted in decreasing order:

Uni Subjects and grades required Additional English
and Information Language skills
grades
required General Maths Econ Eng HL conditions
overall HL condition condition HL Condition Condition specifc marks
HL=Higher level
SL=Standard level
MM=Maths Methods


Cambridge 38-42 7,7,7/7,7,6/7,6,6 These requirements are general commnets for all subjects and are not economics specific http://www.cam.ac.uk/admissions/unde...nts/index.html
Oxford 38-40

LSE 38 7,6,6 7HL
Bath 38 7,6,6 6HL preferred preferably either Economics or Business & Economics Points total excludes bonus points
UCL 38 6,6,6 6HL
Warwick (+b in fourth AS) 38 6HL

Durham 38
Nottingham (or AABB) 38

SOAS 37 6,6,6
St Andrews 37 6HL (or science) 6 A science or Mathematics at Higher Level. For non native English speakers 6 points in English in the IB or IELTS 6.5 or TOEFL 237 - 250 required

Bristol 34-37 6,6,6 6HL/7SL
York 36 6,6,6 6 points required in each Higher level subject Only one from Economics and Business Studies is acceptable, not both

Southampton (or ABBb) (or ABBC) (or ABBcc) 35 17+ 5MMSL
Manchester (BSc) 35 6,6,5 higher level including a social science

Birmingham 34
Manchester (Ba) 34 6,6,5 points overall. 6,6,5 at Higher Level. No lower than 5 in any subject
Edinburgh 34 5,5,5 Maths SL5/ Maths Studies SL6
Queen Mary 34 6SL (HL preferred
Newcastle 34 sl5 5 points required from Mathematics or Mathematical studies at standard level if not offered at higher level
Loughborough 34

Leeds (Ba) 33 16+ 5 5 16 points at higher level, 5 in Economics or Business & Management (if taken), 5 in English and 5 in Mathematics
Kent 33 15+ with 15 at higher level including English HL A1/A2/B at 4/5/5 or English SL A1/A2/n at 5/6/6 PLUS maths at 4 (Maths studies at 5)
Cardiff 33 SL5 5 points each required from English and Mathematics at standard level

Royal Holloway 32-35 5HL/5SL (Maths condition linked to overall points?)

Sussex 32-34 Dilpoma required

Queen's Belfast 32
Sheffield 32
Liverpool 32
Leicester 32 Dilpoma required
Strathclyde 32 32 English and Mathematics. No subject below 5.
East Anglia 31

Exeter 30-31 4,4 HL preferred Mathematics preferred. Award of the Diploma at the appropriate level to include at least two Higher level subjects at grade 4 or above.

Lancaster 30 16+
Glasgow 30
Essex 30 sl
Reading 6,6,6 6HL
City 30
Surrey 30 specific subjects required
Swansea
Coventry 30

Dundee 29 15+

London Met 28 15 4sl 4sl
Aberdeen 28 14+ Eng
Manchester Met 28
Salford 28
Bradford 28
Central Lancashire 28
Liverpool JMU 28 5 points from relevant subjects


Aberystwyth 27

Portsmouth 26 15+

Heriot-Watt 26

Kingston 4 5

UWE Bristol 24-28

Ulster 24 12+
Nottingham Trent 24 24 IB Diploma must be achieved (24 points minimum) Where the IB diploma was not achieved, achieved points cannot be taken into account in combination with other qualifications.
Greenwich 24

Hull
Stirling
Keele #+Finance
Hertfordshire

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Thanks for everyone's contributions in making this thread so good that it has now been stickied.
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And the mods have been kind enough to rename it.
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so where do you disappear to in the daytime paul? researching/reading books?
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so where do you disappear to in the daytime paul? researching/reading books?
Teaching/reading/writing/thinking/listening/playing/studying/modelling
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modelling as in economic models, or literally modelling? What do you play??
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