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    Tbh I don't see a budget being useful at all. There are far too many factors that we simply can't compensate for. A budget written here is at best a guess.
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    I just joined the society I used to be more right wing (Tories ) but grew more socialist as I got older.
    My question is, Is socialism a very liberal ideology which supports individuals freedoms, or is it all 'for the good of the state', because I see myself as very liberal
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    (Original post by Diety)
    I just joined the society I used to be more right wing (Tories ) but grew more socialist as I got older.
    My question is, Is socialism a very liberal ideology which supports individuals freedoms, or is it all 'for the good of the state', because I see myself as very liberal
    In some ways it can be either, or at least examples of each could be found. You'll find that the TSR socialist party is generally a very liberal socialist party.

    TSR labour are less socialist and more social democrats. They are more left wing than the RL (real life) Labour party, and are much more liberal socially. The TSR labour party will contain socialists throughout its members, while none (to my recolection) would be considered by most socialists in this House a 'socialist' in the leadership of the RL Labour party.

    It could be argued that both your statements is correct though, as many socialists want more freedoms socialy, while they also want more regulations and 'state control' in an economic sense.
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    Libertarian Socialism :holmes:
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    Libertarian Socialism :holmes:

    Libertarian socialism
    (sometimes called social anarchism,[1][2] and sometimes left libertarianism)[3][4] is a group of political philosophies that promote a non-hierarchical, non-bureaucratic, stateless society


    You advocate a stateless society do you?
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    (Original post by Teaddict)

    Libertarian socialism
    (sometimes called social anarchism,[1][2] and sometimes left libertarianism)[3][4] is a group of political philosophies that promote a non-hierarchical, non-bureaucratic, stateless society


    You advocate a stateless society do you?
    It doesn't have to be stateless - and no, I don't.
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    The current TSR Labour are much more to the right than they were.
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    (Original post by Adorno)
    The current TSR Labour are much more to the right than they were.
    You're not a member of the party and have no knowledge of our inner workings of late. I don't believe it to be an illogical conclusion to make that you're in no position to accurately make this judgement. How do you define "right", for that matter. :awesome:

    For your next bday I will make you a "World's Leftest Labourite" badge and have the debate done with :mmm:

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    If Labour were to become the majority party at the next general election, what would you do about university tuition fees?
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    You're not a member of the party and have no knowledge of our inner workings of late. I don't believe it to be an illogical conclusion to make that you're in no position to accurately make this judgement. How do you define "right", for that matter. :awesome:

    For your next bday I will make you a "World's Leftest Labourite" badge and have the debate done with :mmm:

    Just an observation based on your front bench. I've resigned from the RL Labour Party so the moniker would be false.
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    (Original post by Adorno)
    Just an observation based on your front bench. I've resigned from the RL Labour Party so the moniker would be false.
    Damn, I was only joking anyway.

    How come you resigned? You've not joined the SWP have you.

    Can you elaborate on the front-bench comment please?
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    (Original post by AspiringGenius)
    If Labour were to become the majority party at the next general election, what would you do about university tuition fees?
    We are not the real life parties mate - we can tell you what we would do in the context of our game on here but it has zero relevance to real life.
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    We are not the real life parties mate - we can tell you what we would do in the context of our game on here but it has zero relevance to real life.
    Could you tell me a little about this game?
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    Damn, I was only joking anyway.

    How come you resigned? You've not joined the SWP have you.

    Can you elaborate on the front-bench comment please?
    I'm not a marxist so the SWP is not for me. I'm inclined to join Plaid at the moment but i'm in need odf figuring some stuff out. I resigned for personal reasons so shalln't say here.
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    (Original post by AspiringGenius)
    Could you tell me a little about this game?
    Sure.

    Essentially we operate in the imaginary context of being the government of a country identical to the UK. We have an election every 6 months which elects MPs for the parties by PR and then parties submit bills to be debated and which will make changes to the country, these are voted on by the MPs. Non MPs are still fully able to get involved but simply can't vote or submit PMBs.

    Each party has their own internal way of functioning and I can't comment extensively on this as I don't know but each party has their own subforum where party members can formulate policy in private and, also, the government has its own forum as well.

    We assume laws that currently prevail in the UK prevail in our world as well until we change them.

    I have tried to be succinct and give you the general idea here.

    If you have any questions about the parties, or about what we do then feel free to ask.
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    (Original post by Adorno)
    I'm not a marxist so the SWP is not for me. I'm inclined to join Plaid at the moment but i'm in need odf figuring some stuff out. I resigned for personal reasons so shalln't say here.
    Oh okay, fair enough. Figuring stuff out is usually a good plan with big decisions! That's fine. How's life?
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    Oh okay, fair enough. Figuring stuff out is usually a good plan with big decisions! That's fine. How's life?
    Life requires a bottle of whiskey at the moment.
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    (Original post by Adorno)
    Life requires a bottle of whiskey at the moment.
    Better than vodka at least.
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    Sure.

    Essentially we operate in the imaginary context of being the government of a country identical to the UK. We have an election every 6 months which elects MPs for the parties by PR and then parties submit bills to be debated and which will make changes to the country, these are voted on by the MPs. Non MPs are still fully able to get involved but simply can't vote or submit PMBs.

    Each party has their own internal way of functioning and I can't comment extensively on this as I don't know but each party has their own subforum where party members can formulate policy in private and, also, the government has its own forum as well.

    We assume laws that currently prevail in the UK prevail in our world as well until we change them.

    I have tried to be succinct and give you the general idea here.

    If you have any questions about the parties, or about what we do then feel free to ask.
    So can I join? Or is it an invitation thing? :-/
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    (Original post by AspiringGenius)
    So can I join? Or is it an invitation thing? :-/
    Yes you can. You need to choose a party and then follow the "Join labour" link in my sig (you can join all parties there).
 
 
 
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