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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    Yes you can. You need to choose a party and then follow the "Join labour" link in my sig (you can join all parties there).
    I joined the "labour supporters" is this the right one?
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    No. Follow the link, it will ask you for a join reason
    (Original post by AspiringGenius)
    I joined the "labour supporters" is this the right one?
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    No. Follow the link, it will ask you for a join reason
    I feel like I'm being a little impertinent here, but how do I access your sig. I'm "fairly" new to TSR :-/
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    (Original post by AspiringGenius)
    I feel like I'm being a little impertinent here, but how do I access your sig. I'm "fairly" new to TSR :-/
    It's fine. If you look above you can see the body of text under my post below where is says Labour Party Leader there are some links.
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    It's fine. If you look above you can see the body of text under my post below where is says Labour Party Leader there are some links.
    I couldn't follow these directions but is this it? If you could be more clear, I would love to finally know how you see someone's sig
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    (Original post by Diety)
    I couldn't follow these directions but is this it? If you could be more clear, I would love to finally know how you see someone's sig
    Yes, that is it. You may have sigs turned off in your settings.
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    (Original post by DayneD89)
    Yes, that is it. You may have sigs turned off in your settings.
    I can't see where it mentions sigs here :confused:
    Hmmm, I am torn between socialist and labour, what's the difference? socialist sound cooler :cool: wow i'm shallow
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    (Original post by Diety)
    I can't see where it mentions sigs here :confused:
    Hmmm, I am torn between socialist and labour, what's the difference? socialist sound cooler :cool: wow i'm shallow
    The TSR socialists are much more radically left and much more liberal. They contain some anarchists and communists as well as radical socialists. TSR Labour is a mix of socialist and social democrat and while you can find some fairly radical people in the party they are less radically left wing and generaly slightly less liberal socially (though mostr of the House from whatever party is generaly liberal socially).

    Plus we (TSR Labour) have cookies :cookie:
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    Socialists aren't Liberals on any scale!!! They may be libertarian and have an uncomfortable relationship with a top-down, pro-middle-class state interferring in personal attitudes and lifestyles but that doesn't make them Liberals.
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    (Original post by Adorno)
    Socialists aren't Liberals on any scale!!! They may be libertarian and have an uncomfortable relationship with a top-down, pro-middle-class state interferring in personal attitudes and lifestyles but that doesn't make them Liberals.
    Not 'Liberals', but they can still be socialy liberal surely.
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    (Original post by Adorno)
    Socialists aren't Liberals on any scale!!! They may be libertarian and have an uncomfortable relationship with a top-down, pro-middle-class state interferring in personal attitudes and lifestyles but that doesn't make them Liberals.
    There is a distinction between being liberal in certain areas, and being a Liberal, no? Dayne was referring to the former.
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    (Original post by DayneD89)
    Not 'Liberals', but they can still be socialy liberal surely.
    No. Socialism is distinct from liberalism and Liberalism (where the small-l is the philosophy and the big-L is the party-political ideology). It may share characteristics but to be a socialist or a Socialist is to hold views which derive from a distinctive source separate from those of liberals and Liberals.
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    (Original post by jesusandtequila)
    There is a distinction between being liberal in certain areas, and being a Liberal, no? Dayne was referring to the former.
    No. See I would describe myself as a democratic socialist. I hold views which are akin to those of liberals/Liberals but they derive from a different political philosophy. Thus I would never say that my attitudes on race or gender are "liberal".
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    I tend to think of myself as a Far Left Marxist personally.
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    (Original post by DayneD89)
    The TSR socialists are much more radically left and much more liberal. They contain some anarchists and communists as well as radical socialists. TSR Labour is a mix of socialist and social democrat and while you can find some fairly radical people in the party they are less radically left wing and generaly slightly less liberal socially (though mostr of the House from whatever party is generaly liberal socially).

    Plus we (TSR Labour) have cookies :cookie:
    Could you also tell me where stuff about sigs can be found in settings?

    Because you are not as liberal, does this mean you are less supportive of individual freedoms e.g freedom of speech etc? I believe in economic socialism but also, individual liberties I see as important. Is this more compatible with labour, socialists or lib-dems?
    on the other hand, I do like cookies
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    (Original post by Adorno)
    No. Socialism is distinct from liberalism and Liberalism (where the small-l is the philosophy and the big-L is the party-political ideology). It may share characteristics but to be a socialist or a Socialist is to hold views which derive from a distinctive source separate from those of liberals and Liberals.
    They are distinct and seperate ideologies certainly, but where I use liberal to mean socialy liberal in that they support individual freedoms I don't see why a socialist could not still be socialy liberal while not supporting other aspects or political philosophies behind Liberalism.
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    (Original post by Diety)
    Could you also tell me where stuff about sigs can be found in settings?

    Because you are not as liberal, does this mean you are less supportive of individual freedoms e.g freedom of speech etc? I believe in economic socialism but also, individual liberties I see as important. Is this more compatible with labour, socialists or lib-dems?
    on the other hand, I do like cookies
    you can be a Socialist and support freedom of speech and social freedom.

    if the TSR Socialist Party came to power, everyone would recieve free cookies on a daily basis with the option of tea or coffee to accompany it
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    (Original post by DayneD89)
    They are distinct and seperate ideologies certainly, but where I use liberal to mean socialy liberal in that they support individual freedoms I don't see why a socialist could not still be socialy liberal while not supporting other aspects or political philosophies behind Liberalism.
    Because the very term drips with association that you cannot get away from. Social liberalism is still defined by liberal attitudes to property and all that jazz. It is still an exclusive idea which leads people to decry more socially conservative people as "backward" and "reactionary" and so on. Anyone describing themselves as a socialist or a social democrat should really think twice about using terms like "liberal" even with the pre-fix social quite so freely.

    I've said this many times on here.
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    (Original post by Diety)
    Could you also tell me where stuff about sigs can be found in settings?

    Because you are not as liberal, does this mean you are less supportive of individual freedoms e.g freedom of speech etc? I believe in economic socialism but also, individual liberties I see as important. Is this more compatible with labour, socialists or lib-dems?
    on the other hand, I do like cookies
    Most people in this House from almost any party will support individual freedoms like freedom of speech.

    For sigs: check that 'show sigs' is checked on this page (under Thread Display Options) and slightly lower down you can change the option headed 'Additional Signature Options' to make sigs fold up so you have to click to see them.

    A persons sig will only show under their first post on a page though.
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    (Original post by SciFiBoy)
    you can be a Socialist and support freedom of speech and social freedom.

    if the TSR Socialist Party came to power, everyone would recieve free cookies on a daily basis with the option of tea or coffee to accompany it
    Marxist tea? After all, proper tea is theft
 
 
 
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