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    (Original post by Emily Thorne)
    I also didn't get an awesome UKCAT score this morning &I will still be applying so I can also get the entire experience just like you. I don't think there's any point in not even trying tbh since we don't really have anything to loose. I thinks it's worth it - what if a miracle happens 😂 JS
    Thanks, you're right. Miracles may happen!

    If you don't mind, may I ask what score you got?
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    (Original post by PkT1991)
    Hi MJK,

    I noticed that you mentioned you did multiple application cycles before getting in at WMS. Would you mind sharing your initial scores and thought process when you didn't get in? And what you then did during this interim period to further strengthen your application?

    I'm a bit in limbo at the moment, as I definitely scored a mediocre UKCAT score (635) this morning, which is not worthy of GEM, but part of me wants to carry on with the application just so I can get the full admission cycle "experience" of writing a personal statement and the pain-staking "Reject" on UCAS. The other half of me wants to submit this score for the 5-year courses and use the interviews (should I even get any for the 5-year course) as a further test run for future GEM applications.

    What are everyone's thoughts/experiences about having such a non-competitive UKCAT score and the out look of multiple application cycles?
    (Original post by Emily Thorne)
    I also didn't get an awesome UKCAT score this morning &I will still be applying so I can also get the entire experience just like you. I don't think there's any point in not even trying tbh since we don't really have anything to loose. I thinks it's worth it - what if a miracle happens 😂 JS
    I got approx. 600 on my first sitting I think, 740 on my second (in a very high scoring cohort however, easier test!) and then 702.5 on my successful attempts.

    My advice would be not to apply to GEM with below 650. It's demoralising having rejections; I did it myself and even though you know it's coming, you ultimately still have that "what if..." painfully drained out of you. Honestly, it's not worth it: you will not get in with those scores, it's a frustrating fact. That's aside from the fact, as you mention, that writing a PS etc is quite a toll in itself. The main benefit, which you've already taken from this year, is essentially having a practice UKCAT run. That'll help you next time around

    Double check you're not eligible for one of the non-UKCAT courses (e.g. Bristol, Cambridge) just in case you think you might be a good fit. Same with 5-year if you can (in the unlikely event!) afford £40k on tuition. But in terms of UKCAT universities it's game over for the year, and too late for the GAMSAT.

    Using 5-year for interviews is not a bad shout if you have the time and money to apply, I suppose. So long as your expectations aren't to get into GEM I don't see the harm. Maybe try and apply to similar schools to those who have similar interview formats for GEM (MMIs would be useful, bit weird to get used to!)

    In terms of strengthening your application, that's really your call as I don't know your background. As a general rule, add something. If you haven't done care experience yet, that's the most beneficial thing. If you can't get it, try some form of longer term voluntary work. Add a bit of shadowing if you're a bit light there: they will ask you at interview about life as a doctor in some fashion or another!

    To give you an idea of my route, on my first attempt I had mostly personal care experience and academic experience (research etc). Second time around I added voluntary work, but Warwick (the only one where my UKCAT was acceptable) added the requirement for non-personal care. So by third time around I'd undertaken clinical work (at work, and abroad in Uganda for a short while) to help compensate for this.

    Good luck next year -- persistence is everything It's a question of how much you want it and how willing you are to tick boxes! Nothing more.
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    (Original post by MJK91)
    I got approx. 600 on my first sitting I think, 740 on my second (in a very high scoring cohort however, easier test!) and then 702.5 on my successful attempts.

    My advice would be not to apply to GEM with below 650. It's demoralising having rejections; I did it myself and even though you know it's coming, you ultimately still have that "what if..." painfully drained out of you. Honestly, it's not worth it: you will not get in with those scores, it's a frustrating fact. That's aside from the fact, as you mention, that writing a PS etc is quite a toll in itself. The main benefit, which you've already taken from this year, is essentially having a practice UKCAT run. That'll help you next time around

    Double check you're not eligible for one of the non-UKCAT courses (e.g. Bristol, Cambridge) just in case you think you might be a good fit. Same with 5-year if you can (in the unlikely event!) afford £40k on tuition. But in terms of UKCAT universities it's game over for the year, and too late for the GAMSAT.

    Using 5-year for interviews is not a bad shout if you have the time and money to apply, I suppose. So long as your expectations aren't to get into GEM I don't see the harm. Maybe try and apply to similar schools to those who have similar interview formats for GEM (MMIs would be useful, bit weird to get used to!)

    In terms of strengthening your application, that's really your call as I don't know your background. As a general rule, add something. If you haven't done care experience yet, that's the most beneficial thing. If you can't get it, try some form of longer term voluntary work. Add a bit of shadowing if you're a bit light there: they will ask you at interview about life as a doctor in some fashion or another!

    To give you an idea of my route, on my first attempt I had mostly personal care experience and academic experience (research etc). Second time around I added voluntary work, but Warwick (the only one where my UKCAT was acceptable) added the requirement for non-personal care. So by third time around I'd undertaken clinical work (at work, and abroad in Uganda for a short while) to help compensate for this.

    Good luck next year -- persistence is everything It's a question of how much you want it and how willing you are to tick boxes! Nothing more.
    Hi,

    Do you think applying to GEM courses with 2610 and SJT 1 would be suicide? If no, which unis would you say I have a chance with?
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    (Original post by Ooompalumpa)
    Hi,

    Do you think applying to GEM courses with 2610 and SJT 1 would be suicide? If no, which unis would you say I have a chance with?
    I think the odds are against you, I chose 650 as an absolute lowest imaginable cut-off for Warwick but I don't think it's ever been that low.

    I don't think you'd have a realistic chance at any of the GEM unis, so your options are to apply to Warwick as an unlikely point, consider non-UKCAT universities, 5-year courses if you can afford them, or wait 'til next year and try again.

    Good luck!
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    I think everyone should just apply. No harm! I've been through the process twice and have written 2 personal statements. Had an interview at Kings (who by the way last year accepted people with a 630 UKCAT if you have a first class degree). And whilst I did feel disappointed it made me want to do better this time. If you have the time. Do it.
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    (Original post by Amywool)
    Had an interview at Kings (who by the way last year accepted people with a 630 UKCAT if you have a first class degree).
    Really? For GEM?

    If so ignore most of my post above! But I thought it was approx. 740 last year?
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    (Original post by Amywool)
    I think everyone should just apply. No harm! I've been through the process twice and have written 2 personal statements. Had an interview at Kings (who by the way last year accepted people with a 630 UKCAT if you have a first class degree). And whilst I did feel disappointed it made me want to do better this time. If you have the time. Do it.
    For the 4 year course?
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    (Original post by MJK91)
    I think the odds are against you, I chose 650 as an absolute lowest imaginable cut-off for Warwick but I don't think it's ever been that low.

    I don't think you'd have a realistic chance at any of the GEM unis, so your options are to apply to Warwick as an unlikely point, consider non-UKCAT universities, 5-year courses if you can afford them, or wait 'til next year and try again.

    Good luck!
    Oh okay-Thank you for your suggestions!
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    (Original post by MJK91)
    I got approx. 600 on my first sitting I think, 740 on my second (in a very high scoring cohort however, easier test!) and then 702.5 on my successful attempts.

    My advice would be not to apply to GEM with below 650. It's demoralising having rejections; I did it myself and even though you know it's coming, you ultimately still have that "what if..." painfully drained out of you. Honestly, it's not worth it: you will not get in with those scores, it's a frustrating fact. That's aside from the fact, as you mention, that writing a PS etc is quite a toll in itself. The main benefit, which you've already taken from this year, is essentially having a practice UKCAT run. That'll help you next time around

    Double check you're not eligible for one of the non-UKCAT courses (e.g. Bristol, Cambridge) just in case you think you might be a good fit. Same with 5-year if you can (in the unlikely event!) afford £40k on tuition. But in terms of UKCAT universities it's game over for the year, and too late for the GAMSAT.

    Using 5-year for interviews is not a bad shout if you have the time and money to apply, I suppose. So long as your expectations aren't to get into GEM I don't see the harm. Maybe try and apply to similar schools to those who have similar interview formats for GEM (MMIs would be useful, bit weird to get used to!)

    In terms of strengthening your application, that's really your call as I don't know your background. As a general rule, add something. If you haven't done care experience yet, that's the most beneficial thing. If you can't get it, try some form of longer term voluntary work. Add a bit of shadowing if you're a bit light there: they will ask you at interview about life as a doctor in some fashion or another!

    To give you an idea of my route, on my first attempt I had mostly personal care experience and academic experience (research etc). Second time around I added voluntary work, but Warwick (the only one where my UKCAT was acceptable) added the requirement for non-personal care. So by third time around I'd undertaken clinical work (at work, and abroad in Uganda for a short while) to help compensate for this.

    Good luck next year -- persistence is everything It's a question of how much you want it and how willing you are to tick boxes! Nothing more.
    Hey, what do u mean Warwick require "non personal care" ?!!
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    (Original post by Amywool)
    I think everyone should just apply. No harm! I've been through the process twice and have written 2 personal statements. Had an interview at Kings (who by the way last year accepted people with a 630 UKCAT if you have a first class degree). And whilst I did feel disappointed it made me want to do better this time. If you have the time. Do it.
    No way I struggle to believe that's true!! I can't believe it!
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    (Original post by PkT1991)
    Thanks, you're right. Miracles may happen!

    If you don't mind, may I ask what score you got?
    I got 580 APPALING! I know! Mentally prepared for rejections aha! Struggled with VR & DA! Which universities will you be applying to? And are you also doing the BMAT or GAMSAT?
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    Hi. I just want to ask if I would possibly get into medicine at Birmingham University? I received my AS results ABBB so next year I will be predicted A*AA. GCSEs I got 3A*s 5As 3Bs 2Cs, I know they are bad but it was due to severe anaemia which is classed as extenuating circumstances. I'm planning on going through the A2B Scheme and will be doing the UKCAT soon. Is it possible? What are the chances of getting in?
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    Hi. I just want to ask if I would possibly get into medicine at Birmingham University? I received my AS results ABBB so next year I will be predicted A*AA. GCSEs I got 3A*s 5As 3Bs 2Cs, I know they are bad but it was due to severe anaemia which is classed as extenuating circumstances. I'm planning on going through the A2B Scheme and will be doing the UKCAT soon. Is it possible? What are the chances of getting in?
    This is the graduate entry thread.

    I am not sure how the A2B scheme works, but if you qualify for it then go ahead. If you don't qualify for A2B then don't apply to B'ham as you don't meet their AAAA requirement at AS.
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    This is the graduate entry thread.

    I am not sure how the A2B scheme works, but if you qualify for it then go ahead. If you don't qualify for A2B then don't apply to B'ham as you don't meet their AAAA requirement at AS.
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    (Original post by Amywool)
    I think everyone should just apply. No harm! I've been through the process twice and have written 2 personal statements. Had an interview at Kings (who by the way last year accepted people with a 630 UKCAT if you have a first class degree). And whilst I did feel disappointed it made me want to do better this time. If you have the time. Do it.
    Are you sure?? For GEM?? If so, I might swap my 5 year option to that haha
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    (Original post by MJK91)
    Really? For GEM?

    If so ignore most of my post above! But I thought it was approx. 740 last year?
    I called them today and they said they consider a score of 650 very good and likely for interview but they consider other factors so a lower UKCAT score if you got high grades. Also the Kaplan girl who did my course said the 630 and a first thing but I don't know where she got that other than her boss!
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    I know a lot of people believe that low UKCAT scores aren't worth applying but really is there anything to loose, yes it's stressful, yes your secretly hopeful yet you know you will be rejected. Think about the people who have been rejected multiple times, it is what it is. You can't control who Bob billie and Angie choose but you can put yourself out there and experience the whole application process. That's just my opinion. Plus it minimises the amount of work you have to do next year... So for instance if your UKCAT score wasn't good you know you have to work harder on that next year & if your personal statement needs more work since you might not have much experience then you work on that. Basically applying regardless will help you figure out your weakness & then you can work on strengthen your application for the next year.
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    (Original post by KirstieW)
    Are you sure?? For GEM?? If so, I might swap my 5 year option to that haha
    Aren't you automatically considered for the 5 year too if you apply to the 4 year at Kings? Or is that just if you get to interview? Thinking aloud. I know I got an interview in 2012 with a score of 620 and I called them today and they said 650 for gem is considered good and they consider other things too call them for more info if you like. It's an important decision!
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    You're all making me doubt what the lady at Kings said to me about the 650! I think I'll ring again tomorrow. But I said 4 year course like a million times!
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    (Original post by Amywool)
    Aren't you automatically considered for the 5 year too if you apply to the 4 year at Kings? Or is that just if you get to interview? Thinking aloud. I know I got an interview in 2012 with a score of 620 and I called them today and they said 650 for gem is considered good and they consider other things too call them for more info if you like. It's an important decision!
    Yeah at King's if you get to interview they may consider you for the 5 year course as a means of a waiting list so to speak, and you might get pushed up to the 4 year if a place becomes available
 
 
 
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