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    (Original post by Philosoraptor)
    Nope as I literally didn't want to go to any other medical school - and would have turned down other offers.

    I know that's the kinda stuff that makes Renal get vitriolic but hey ho.

    Why - you're at a "good" one - what's making you feel this way?
    I'm not sure, I was always torn between what I eventually put as my firm and insurance and ultimately only put them the way they were because one was AAA and one was AAB.

    Whenever I have slight tingles that I'm not fully enjoying myself I always turn to the "what if?" argument in my head. At the moment it's been brought on because I'm at home and don't really feel like going back. It's disconcerting when everyone I seem to speak to "can't wait to get back" and finds home so boring.

    There are certain aspects that I am getting annoyed with as well, particularly the state of affairs with the union only being open for one night a week for sports teams. Because of this nobody really goes out much from my flat apart from that night which sucks.

    Whenever the lectures are crap, I feel ****, miss XYZ etc I always return to what would it be like at the other place. Or if I get sick of London, etc. It's always when everyone else seems to be having a completely fantastic time, it's probably the same at the other place and I was just expecting too much with the way university is hyped up everywhere.

    It doesn't help I've always had the thing that I always want to see how both things play out. In games I always save and play out both story lines if there's a decision, or look up both sides even if it's only minor differences. I'm really indecisive with minor things.


    (Original post by Becca-Sarah)
    :yes: But then I also seem to be pondering what life would have been if I'd stuck with my original degree choice, or if I'd done something completely non-sciencey.
    Do you dwell on it at all?

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    Nor me :dontknow:

    But when I applied UEA was always my favourite :yep:
    It was my favourite too, but every flaw I seem to find always makes me question if it would be like this elsewhere. Especially when I read other peoples accounts of the other place and it always addresses the flaw as being not an issue there.
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    (Original post by RollerBall)
    Do you dwell on it at all?
    I never had an insurance; this was my only offer, so I don't have anywhere to directly compare it to and wish I was there instead. I do suspect that if I had the chance to apply again, I would have picked different universities, but I was very limited by my grades at the time. *touch wood* I'm trying to do my intercalated degree in London, so hopefully I will get the best of both worlds in learning to appreciate what I have here and seeing how other school's work.
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    (Original post by Becca-Sarah)
    I would be fairly pissed if I were paying £3000/yr to read textbooks. If you take out our token amount of clinical teaching, we're 95% lectures.
    Why?

    I don't feel like I know less than a second year at another school on a lecture-based course. I don't feel like I'd be any less competent at all.

    I get that with lectures you might feel like you're getting 'something' for your money, but I'm not really fussed about that. We all pay the same amount... I just want a course that suits me, and I prefer to be more self-directed. Someone talking at me and 100 other people with a powerpoint just doesn't cut it in my opinion.
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    (Original post by Kinkerz)
    Why?

    I don't feel like I know less than a second year at another school on a lecture-based course. I don't feel like I'd be any less competent at all.

    I get that with lectures you might feel like you're getting 'something' for your money, but I'm not really fussed about that. We all pay the same amount... I just want a course that suits me, and I prefer to be more self-directed. Someone talking at me and 100 other people with a powerpoint just doesn't cut it in my opinion.
    I wasn't aiming that at PBL, because clearly there is some direction in having a facilitator and setting learning outcomes. I got the impression you were saying that you'd rather learn independently from a textbook full stop rather than from a lecture.

    And as for your bit in bold - I'm an English student in Scotland, so I guess I think more about what I'm paying for when others around me are getting it for free.
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    (Original post by Becca-Sarah)
    I wasn't aiming that at PBL, because clearly there is some direction in having a facilitator and setting learning outcomes. I got the impression you were saying that you'd rather learn independently from a textbook full stop rather than from a lecture.
    Oh, I think some guidance is obviously necessary. I would prefer totally independent to lectures, but I think independent plus smaller group tutorials would be ideal.
    And as for your bit in bold - I'm an English student in Scotland, so I guess I think more about what I'm paying for when others around me are getting it for free.
    Ah, maketh sense.
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    Ours is 95% lecture based too, and to be honest I'm pretty thankful for that. Lectures are of course, boring most of the time, but atleast attending lectures means I don't have to hunt for what might come up in the exam in a text book, which let's face it, takes a lot of effort :P I still use textbooks from time to time, to supplement something interesting or explain something better than the lecturer who waffled on about his research and all the associated graphs, but for the most part I feel I get the level of detail I need from the lecture notes.
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    (Original post by Mushi_master)
    Well, when working throughout the year it's more like an hour per lecture making notes - 15/20 mins is what I'd spend on a first run through when revising over Easter. Each lecture totally varies of course.

    Aren't some of the sample questions on the VC related to phase 2? I didn't use them so not sure. You never know, some may end on the black market around revision time.
    Ah ok. Oh gosh yeah, I completely forget about the ones related to phase 2 on the VC! Thank you. Did you get the SSC choices you wanted by the way? We just submitted ours but I'm guessing not everyone gets one of their 6 choices!
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    (Original post by Kinkerz)
    The basics can be gleaned from books/other resources without much trouble. To me, the only time a lecture feels necessary is if it's about something that's not quite in the textbooks yet... the very up to date stuff.

    We don't seem to get that. Our lectures are on the usual stuff that's covered in textbooks... except it's a person talking for an hour generally going through a pretty dismal powerpoint presentation.
    i think it might be a department thing, there aren't many lectures i've been to that i feel i could reproduce in less than 50mins... if any! that's not to say i couldn't do the same without it but it would take much longer. Experimental evidence is generally covered much better by lectures than text books as well as they don't have the space that would be required to do so. plus having a researcher lecturing means youre guided more towards experiments considered to be most 'important' in terms of what they show.
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    (Original post by billet-doux)
    Ah ok. Oh gosh yeah, I completely forget about the ones related to phase 2 on the VC! Thank you. Did you get the SSC choices you wanted by the way? We just submitted ours but I'm guessing not everyone gets one of their 6 choices!
    I got my first choice last year (and we won on our poster presentation ), but it was a less popular one (polycystic kidney disease). This year I got my 5th choice for my taught module, and am currently having my arse kicked by my 2nd choice library project.
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    (Original post by John Locke)
    i think it might be a department thing, there aren't many lectures i've been to that i feel i could reproduce in less than 50mins... if any! that's not to say i couldn't do the same without it but it would take much longer.
    Do you feel you know it well after? Yeah, a lecture doesn't take that long, but to know the material well you'll have to go over it etc. That process in combination with the lecture is no faster really and makes learning more narrowed in my opinion.

    Experimental evidence is generally covered much better by lectures than text books as well as they don't have the space that would be required to do so. plus having a researcher lecturing means youre guided more towards experiments considered to be most 'important' in terms of what they show.
    This is where lectures and lecture-related things are positive in my book. Most here just reproduce things you can easily get in a more logical order/more comprehensively covered in a book.
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    (Original post by Kinkerz)
    Do you feel you know it well after? Yeah, a lecture doesn't take that long, but to know the material well you'll have to go over it etc. That process in combination with the lecture is no faster really and makes learning more narrowed in my opinion.
    No, not all of it, its much too fast. I know loads more than i would if i read a book for an hour though, i know what bits to read again or think about (often only really need the latter!) which is much more efficient than going through all of it from scratch (as far as i can see?) and leaves you more time to read more complicated things than basics, which is essential for our other exams.

    (Original post by Kinkerz)
    This is where lectures and lecture-related things are positive in my book. Most here just reproduce things you can easily get in a more logical order/more comprehensively covered in a book.
    course feedback? do others agree?
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    I'd possibly be better off asking the pharmacists, but do any of you know the cheapest way of getting diclofenac (or similar) OTC? I've tried Voltareze, but at £7/pack I'm not keen.
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    Does anyone know if there is a reason why you shouldn't/can't measure b.p. or take blood from an arm after an axillary clearance? Obviously a fair time post-op, not in the same hour.
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    (Original post by Fission_Mailed)
    Does anyone know if there is a reason why you shouldn't/can't measure b.p. or take blood from an arm after an axillary clearance? Obviously a fair time post-op, not in the same hour.
    I thought it was because the arm can become swollen
    lymph?
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    (Original post by RollerBall)
    I'm not sure, I was always torn between what I eventually put as my firm and insurance and ultimately only put them the way they were because one was AAA and one was AAB.

    Whenever I have slight tingles that I'm not fully enjoying myself I always turn to the "what if?" argument in my head. At the moment it's been brought on because I'm at home and don't really feel like going back. It's disconcerting when everyone I seem to speak to "can't wait to get back" and finds home so boring.

    There are certain aspects that I am getting annoyed with as well, particularly the state of affairs with the union only being open for one night a week for sports teams. Because of this nobody really goes out much from my flat apart from that night which sucks.

    Whenever the lectures are crap, I feel ****, miss XYZ etc I always return to what would it be like at the other place. Or if I get sick of London, etc. It's always when everyone else seems to be having a completely fantastic time, it's probably the same at the other place and I was just expecting too much with the way university is hyped up everywhere.

    It doesn't help I've always had the thing that I always want to see how both things play out. In games I always save and play out both story lines if there's a decision, or look up both sides even if it's only minor differences. I'm really indecisive with minor things.




    Do you dwell on it at all?



    It was my favourite too, but every flaw I seem to find always makes me question if it would be like this elsewhere. Especially when I read other peoples accounts of the other place and it always addresses the flaw as being not an issue there.
    Sometimes yes, especially as I've been having some problems with my friends recently
    and there was a period where PBL wasn't working for me
    and I am so far away from home here -- like you I like home, I am close to my family and have a lot of close friends in my home city who have stayed there -- my other option was significantly closer and meant I could have gone home a lot easier

    I don't think it's worth pondering on, but I try to remind myself it's normal to have doubts. I was always torn when it came to making a decision but I remind myself why it is I chose this course. Not everyone will be 'I can't wait' to go back I think that's just the said thing.
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    (Original post by Fission_Mailed)
    Does anyone know if there is a reason why you shouldn't/can't measure b.p. or take blood from an arm after an axillary clearance? Obviously a fair time post-op, not in the same hour.
    I think its impaired lymph drainage. Sometimes people end up with it being quite debilitating, both cosmetically and in terms of function.
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    Junior doctors starting! actual excitement.
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    lack of tv license means its 10pm iplayer refresh! just enough time to finish reading pharyngeal arch reviews...
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    (Original post by John Locke)
    lack of tv license means its 10pm iplayer refresh!
    :five:


    Although I'm busy watching The Inbetweeners. First time watching it and I've got through the whole first series in a night :facepalm:
 
 
 
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