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    Yer these are labour figures I remember I heard a couple of years ago 50000 people were lost in the system just saying not exactly feeling secure with labour lies.
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    (Original post by Jackthevillain)
    Yer these are labour figures I remember I heard a couple of years ago 50000 people were lost in the system just saying not exactly feeling secure with labour lies.
    These figures come from the office for national statistics. Yes, you can simply claim they are a lie, but then you are simply choosing to believe figures you might have heard about at some point. If you have any evidence to dispute the figures given by the ONS then please show me. If you do not then I'll continue to trust their figures over your vague ideas.
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    Open Cities run by the UN? It could work if the UN wasn't incompetent.
    Do you think Netanyahu et all would accept that?
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    We create serious legislation that we expect to pass, such that we can improve conditions for people
    i.e. populist legislation. Lovely.
    (Original post by Diety)
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    My good sir, you join a party to which you feel most politically inclined to, not to that you feel will win the election. Please remember that it a Model House of Commons and realistically speaking, one should join a Party on par to their political affiliation. Although this isn't the case with the TSR Labour Party as many of their MPs are actually Right-Wing/Centrist Blarities. So the choice, really, is between a left wing party and a Party that have a 'Catch-all' policy; adopting whatever policies they need to win without any ideological conviction or clear policy goal.
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    (Original post by sandys1000)
    Do you think Netanyahu et all would accept that?
    Him? No. The Israeli population? Most likely.
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    Stricof talking nonsense again Haha. I am on my phone but will reply properly later
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    (Original post by Stricof)
    i.e. populist legislation. Lovely.
    My good sir, you join a party to which you feel most politically inclined to, not to that you feel will win the election. Please remember that it a Model House of Commons and realistically speaking, one should join a Party on par to their political affiliation. Although this isn't the case with the TSR Labour Party as many of their MPs are actually Right-Wing/Centrist Blarities. So the choice, really, is between a left wing party and a Party that have a 'Catch-all' policy.
    I'm not sure, here is the result of my political test:

    http://www.politicalcompass.org/prin...7.00&soc=-5.18

    Which party do you think is for me (and please try not to be too biased)
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    (Original post by Diety)
    I'm not sure, here is the result of my political test:

    http://www.politicalcompass.org/prin...&soc=-5.18

    Which party do you think is for me (and please try not to be too biased
    Tricky. Your lining is more in sync with the normal/moderate members of the Socialist party and in sync with the radical elements of the Labour Party (not that I've seen any of them recently apart from the user Rockrunride). So you could fall into either party with that result...

    So it's up to you, really.
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    (Original post by Diety)
    I'm not sure, here is the result of my political test:

    http://www.politicalcompass.org/prin...7.00&soc=-5.18

    Which party do you think is for me (and please try not to be too biased)
    That could really fall under either to be honest, especially as the test is far from perfect. If you can't decide why not have a look at the bills each party has tried to pass? Hansard (list of all bills in the House) is here. The latest bills are probably the ones you want to look at as the parties do slowly shift.

    If you join one but later decide youd have rather joined the other, changing parties is pretty easy. I've been in three of the parties on here in my time using the TSR House of Commons
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    (Original post by Stricof)
    Tricky. Your lining is more in sync with the normal/moderate members of the Socialist party and in sync with the radical elements of the Labour Party (not that I've seen any of them recently apart from the user Rockrunride). So you could fall into either party with that result...

    So it's up to you, really.
    I have one question, what is your party's policy on education? e.g: would you bin private schools and replace them with state education and what would you do to improve schools (note, I go to private school - )
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    (Original post by Diety)
    I have one question, what is your party's policy on education? e.g: would you bin private schools and replace them with state education and what would you do to improve schools (note, I go to private school - )
    Remove private schools, remove grammar schools and have more extensive streaming in comprehensives (setting). The former is made difficult by financial concerns so certainly access should be widened and, actually, I quite like ideas like the new school being created by a number of private schools which will have an upper income-cap making it accessible only to the poorest students. Grammars don't serve any useful purpose and should be removed. Again, the medium policy would be to alter the way in which students are chosen for them.
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    (Original post by Diety)
    I have one question, what is your party's policy on education? e.g: would you bin private schools and replace them with state education and what would you do to improve schools (note, I go to private school - )
    We're against the idea of Private education. But can I just point out that the choice to go to a Private school is usually on the side of the parents not the pupil, so the latter wouldn't be blamed in this circumstance. We have a few people in the Party who went to private or international schools abroad and are against the concept. And our concept is to aim for a fantastic level of comprehensive education where you are not judged on your ability to pay and you are not judged from what background you come from. So our reason for not supporting private schooling is in lieu of supporting the development (and continuation) of fantastic state-run education; giving the child/pupil as much choice as he/she wants to make in whatever field they feel they want to pursue. Your personal involvement in a Private School means little as long as you believe these lines. If not, then yes, we may trouble in accepting you.
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    (Original post by Diety)
    I have one question, what is your party's policy on education? e.g: would you bin private schools and replace them with state education and what would you do to improve schools (note, I go to private school - )
    They both hate them... join TSR Conservatives
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
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    But really, paddy, is that your Party line or your stance? Because I'm aware you may believe in this but not your Party as a whole.

    Take H&C for example - He must definitely support Grammars and Private schools alike.
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    They both hate them... join TSR Conservatives
    Have YOU got a black hole for a heart?

    If so dial 666TORYSCUM, join us today and for a limited time only get your free peasant repellent :king1:
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    (Original post by Stricof)
    But really, paddy, is that your Party line or your stance? Because I'm aware you may believe in this but not your Party as a whole.

    Take H&C for example - He must definitely support Grammars and Private schools alike.
    I won't try to say that all members share my view, as we all know that they don't, but enough do, at least to some extent, and thus I feel it is legitimate to term it party policy. It is certainly the line I would promote amongst members but of course they are free to disagree.

    I think it is rare that the whole party agrees on anything, or even the active members.
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    Have YOU got a black hole for a heart?

    If so dial 666TORYSCUM, join us today and for a limited time only get your free peasant repellent :king1:
    No I have a heart... just for rich people not peasant like yourself

    Is it me or are TSR Labour not following a party line but just have their own opinions? some ruling party you guys are you need a party line one things so that people don't get confused with all the personal opinions... anyway H&C should be in the TSR Conservatives although the banned TSR BNP would be better :lol:
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    No I have a heart... just for rich people not peasant like yourself

    Is it me or are TSR Labour not following a party line but just have their own opinions? some ruling party you guys are you need a party line one things so that people don't get confused with all the personal opinions... anyway H&C should be in the TSR Conservatives although the banned TSR BNP would be better :lol:
    Fair enough :lol:

    I think it is very important, especially on here, that people are encouraged to form and defend their own opinions. The party shouldn't rule but facilitate. We do have party lines, and they can be seen via our legislation. Currently we have government policy though of course.

    H+C should be in whichever party he wants really, as long as while he is in it he plays the game. His RL affiliation is with the Conservative Party but, to be perfectly frank, this doesn't necessarily place him very far from the other new-labourites in the party.
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    Ok, I've made up my mind TSR Socialist Party for me :woohoo: Thanks guys
 
 
 
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