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    I've rejected you: good luck in the Socialists.
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    I've rejected you: good luck in the Socialists.
    thanks , good luck in Labour

    not... he he he
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    (Original post by Diety)
    thanks , good luck in Labour

    [SIZE="1"]not... he he he[/SIZE]
    Ok.
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    anyway H&C should be in the TSR Conservatives
    He was back on his previous account. He was booted out for lying, making snide comments about other members and just generally acting like a prick.
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    I couldn't find the Government thread so I'll ask here: does the TSR Labour Party accept the principle of collective responsibility?
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    (Original post by Adorno)
    I couldn't find the Government thread so I'll ask here: does the TSR Labour Party accept the principle of collective responsibility?
    On the assumption that you mean this pertaining to government, and assuming that by accept you mean intend to abide by rather than accept the existence of, no we don't (or at least I won't enforce it). We have a flexible whipping system that suits us and for my part I'm comfortable with how things are. On TSR it is important that people are free to voice their opinions.

    Would I prefer they do this only in the subforum? Yes, definitely. Would someone who constantly criticises government policy be replaced if they hold an important position? Probably. Am I going to censor people who voice contrary opinions they strongly hold? Certainly not.

    If you're asking something I've not answered then feel free to be more specific.
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    On the assumption that you mean this pertaining to government, and assuming that by accept you mean intend to abide by rather than accept the existence of, no we don't (or at least I won't enforce it). We have a flexible whipping system that suits us and for my part I'm comfortable with how things are. On TSR it is important that people are free to voice their opinions.

    Would I prefer they do this only in the subforum? Yes, definitely. Would someone who constantly criticises government policy be replaced if they hold an important position? Probably. Am I going to censor people who voice contrary opinions they strongly hold? Certainly not.
    Well that's amusing.
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    (Original post by Adorno)
    Well that's amusing.
    *pats on the head*

    Simple things....
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    *pats on the head*

    Simple things....
    Well no, it's amusing because it demonstrates a complete lack of control on your part and the inability to put out bills from the government which are sufficiently compromised to enable at least all of your cabinet members to support it fully in open forums. It's amusing because it shows a lack of willingness on your part to act when your party is being shown to be fractious. And, finally, it's amusing because your only defence is this spurious lack of desire to censor anyone.
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    (Original post by Adorno)
    Well no, it's amusing because it demonstrates a complete lack of control on your part and the inability to put out bills from the government which are sufficiently compromised to enable at least all of your cabinet members to support it fully in open forums. It's amusing because it shows a lack of willingness on your part to act when your party is being shown to be fractious. And, finally, it's amusing because your only defence is this spurious lack of desire to censor anyone.
    Oh dear.

    1) Choosing not to doesn't logically = inability.
    2) You're fooling yourself if you think it is the compromise that makes the Cabinet want to do it in RL, it is the fact they wish to keep their jobs.
    3) The party isn't fractious - if one or two people feel differently about legislation made by the government then that's up to them. I would allow them to oppose it if we were not in coalition and I will allow them to do it if we are.
    4) It wasn't stated as a defence, I have little to defend. I have made a decision, and a decision the party is happy with for that matter and it isn't spurious at all - I would be interested to know by what wizardry you are able to know my own thoughts and feelings better than I do? Quite the skill.
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    (Original post by paddy__power)
    Oh dear.

    1) Choosing not to doesn't logically = inability.
    2) You're fooling yourself if you think it is the compromise that makes the Cabinet want to do it in RL, it is the fact they wish to keep their jobs.
    3) The party isn't fractious - if one or two people feel differently about legislation made by the government then that's up to them. I would allow them to oppose it if we were not in coalition and I will allow them to do it if we are.
    4) It wasn't stated as a defence, I have little to defend. I have made a decision, and a decision the party is happy with for that matter and it isn't spurious at all - I would be interested to know by what wizardry you are able to know my own thoughts and feelings better than I do? Quite the skill.
    Those cabinet ministers with any honour resign just as Robin Cook did over Iraq. Clearly the Labour Party in its current guise lacks a backbone and suspect the problem lies in its current leadership rather than anything else.
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    (Original post by Adorno)
    Those cabinet ministers with any honour resign just as Robin Cook did over Iraq. Clearly the Labour Party in its current guise lacks a backbone and suspect the problem lies in its current leadership rather than anything else.
    Yes you're right people who disagree with the opinions of others here on TSR should definitely just resign even if they enjoy the position because clearly one can't be honourable and be content with other party members having different opinions to them, and you're also right that my choosing not to bully people into publicly supporting X is clearly indicative of poor leadership - behind closed doors many senior members of the party often beg me to curtail this freedom to express ones self nonsense I'm promoting. This is all very logically sound and impressively penetrating of you. I'm deeply upset you have uncovered my deception.

    I am, despite this great moral victory for you, still waiting to hear about the wizardry that allows you a greater insight into my mind than I myself have. or your admittance that you were, in that instance, talking various amounts of crap
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    sandys1000 has been appointed the new Deputy Leader of TSR Labour

    I'm sure the good amongst us will join me in wishing him luck
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    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...5&postcount=30

    in light of the above, can I ask whether the TSR Labour party would support any tax rises on the rich in order to tackle the growing and abhorent level of inequality and also to fund essential public services or expand them, or does your party now have no comittment to improving the lives of vast majoirty of the people of the UK?
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    (Original post by SciFiBoy)
    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...p;postcount=30

    in light of the above, can I ask whether the TSR Labour party would support any tax rises on the rich in order to tackle the growing and abhorent level of inequality and also to fund essential public services or expand them, or does your party now have no comittment to improving the lives of vast majoirty of the people of the UK?
    The TSR Labour party is working on a bill that does include tax reforms with an aim to generate money and lower the tax burdens on the poorest families, however this is in its early stages of development.
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    Bring back the legality of the early 90s raves please.
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    (Original post by Gob Bluth)
    Bring back the legality of the early 90s raves please.
    I would support that :ninja:
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    (Original post by DayneD89)
    The TSR Labour party is working on a bill that does include tax reforms with an aim to generate money and lower the tax burdens on the poorest families, however this is in its early stages of development.
    I should look forward to seeing said bill, but it raises the question of why your leader answered my question as he did (the implication of it, at least from what I could tell, was that your party would not support tax rises?)
 
 
 
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