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    (Original post by Mann18)
    I do not think it's bull crap, it seems to make a lot of sense, and to say using evolutionary biology to explain modern day events is stupid I think is rather presumptuous, seeing as the behaviour of many animals is determined by exactly this.
    I agree, it explains the behavour of many animals. But humans are quite intelligent, and a lot of our behaviours deviate from what could be considered good in terms of evolutionary biology. We don't just think with the animal, instinctual part of our brains (the amygdalas - responsible for primitive emotions), we can use reason and logic (higher cortex part of the brain) to overcome those animal instincts if need be. That's why I think its not good to use evolutionary biology to explain all human behaviou, but it can be useful in some cases and to make very broad generalisations.

    I also quite like how girls always seem to be angry at this, when it is rather their own problem, if girls thought that promiscuous girls were "legends/eqiuvalent"
    the problem would be balanced.
    I think the problem, for me anyway, not that men are considered respectable if they pull loads of girls in a week, its that the equivalent female is DISrespected rather than having a neutral opinion placed on her. I don't doubt it is easier for me as a woman to get sex, but I don't like being called names because I choose to have lots of it.

    Promiscuous men = positive
    Promiscuous women = negative

    Why not....

    Promiscuous men = positive
    Promiscuous women = neutral ??? :confused:
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    No it's not the same. Deal with it.
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    They're both ****s.
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    (Original post by black_mamba)
    I agree, it explains the behavour of many animals. But humans are quite intelligent, and a lot of our behaviours deviate from what could be considered good in terms of evolutionary biology. We don't just think with the animal, instinctual part of our brains (the amygdalas - responsible for primitive emotions), we can use reason and logic (higher cortex part of the brain) to overcome those animal instincts if need be. That's why I think its not good to use evolutionary biology to explain all human behaviou, but it can be useful in some cases and to make very broad generalisations.
    But surely you would think it's ILLOGICAL to think that promiscuous women are ****s but men are not? Surely this indicates by your own logic that it's an animalistic response? Remember, I'm not here saying that the opinions people have are correct, I'm just suggesting possible derivatives.



    I think the problem, for me anyway, not that men are considered respectable if they pull loads of girls in a week, its that the equivalent female is DISrespected rather than having a neutral opinion placed on her. I don't doubt it is easier for me as a woman to get sex, but I don't like being called names because I choose to have lots of it.

    Promiscuous men = positive
    Promiscuous women = negative

    Why not....

    Promiscuous men = positive
    Promiscuous women = neutral ??? :confused:
    There is the argument "If you do not want to be burned, do not place your hand into the fire." I.e. if you don't want to be called names, don't sleep around. More practical than anything else. I appreciate that we're speaking about a perceived injustice, but I think it's easy to forget the practicality of the situation. One would assume that most girls who sleep around don't care about what others think of them.

    One could even go so far as saying that the problem exists not with society, but with those who care what others think about them.
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    (Original post by Mann18)
    But surely you would think it's ILLOGICAL to think that promiscuous women are ****s but men are not? Surely this indicates by your own logic that it's an animalistic response? Remember, I'm not here saying that the opinions people have are correct, I'm just suggesting possible derivatives.
    You've lost me.

    There is the argument "If you do not want to be burned, do not place your hand into the fire." I.e. if you don't want to be called names, don't sleep around. More practical than anything else.
    I see what you mean, but that's an approach that results in no progress. What for all the sexually active women who don't harm anyone (who do it with respect, responsibility, and a healthy mental attitude) - what benefit is it to denegrate them? It's hard keeping something discreet when you personally know that you are doing nothing wrong. Oh well, life is unfair and I accept that.
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    Ew.
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    It's just the society that makes it seem different. But it's the same thing.
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    They'd both be riddled with STIs, be awfully scummy and completely chavtastic. But yes, its the same thing for both males and females. It's disgusting.
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    (Original post by black_mamba)
    You've lost me.
    1)Humans are capable of overiding the illogical part of their brain.
    2) Thinking that women having sex with many men is worse than men having sex with many women is illogical.

    Therefore, humans do not override the illogical part of their brain, and succumb to animalistic responses.

    I see what you mean, but that's an approach that results in no progress. What for all the sexually active women who don't harm anyone (who do it with respect, responsibility, and a healthy mental attitude) - what benefit is it to denegrate them? It's hard keeping something discreet when you personally know that you are doing nothing wrong. Oh well, life is unfair and I accept that.
    I think this is basically the problem. To some people, it is deemed wrong, or people wouldn't take the stance they do. People's sense of morality is the issue.
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    (Original post by Mann18)
    1)Humans are capable of overiding the illogical part of their brain.
    2) Thinking that women having sex with many men is worse than men having sex with many women is illogical.

    Therefore, humans do not override the illogical part of their brain, and succumb to animalistic responses.
    Ok I understand now. I think nurture is stronger than nature though, and socialisation is a very strong force to reckon with. I think social pressures of demeaning sexual women are so strong that they override logic. In the same way that social pressures to like skinny jeans and uggs override the logic that they look manky.
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    (Original post by Bellissima)
    morally, socially etc.

    yes or no?
    What was the motivation for this question, if I may ask?
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    (Original post by BumperBo)
    BumperBo thinks that either way it'd be cool to do a documentary on how they avoid exhaustion
    BumperBo is back!! BWS thought you got banned?
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    (Original post by py0alb)
    Possibly. but its already been posted 4 different times on this thread, and it almost seems like some of the posters actually think it somehow backs up their ridiculous point.
    Ahh fair enough, it doesn't at all, and to be honest while it is kind of true that guys get lad points, it really doesn't help with girls if you're known as a man whore!
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    I just wonder how it would work like.. practically? Would they have to have a few threesomes? Or would they go out one night, sleep with someone then get back out there to find someone else the same night? All sounds very tiring to me.
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    Cant people just have as much sex as they want without worrying about being labelled a ****? I mean no mature person would really give a ****.
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    Did you actually read that, or just copy and paste it?
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    (Original post by queenorivers)
    well... why?

    Like a proper constructed argument as to why - if you will
    Its just basic man logic.... if a guy goes out to 'pull' then it makes sense... if a girl does it its just a bit :\ ... it makes sense if you think about it... and like that guy said If a guy told me he done it i would shake his hand... if a girl said it then the whole time i would be thinking 'slaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag'... because to be honest its not right for a girl to brag about something like that
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    (Original post by there's too much love)
    Out of curiosity why wouldn't you have much respect for them?
    Is that in all cases where they sleep with 10 people in a week?
    Because, especially with women, quite a few of those 10 guys would probably be pretty pervy and disgusting, so for a woman especially it would be gross to let those guys get so close to you and inside you. You obviously wouldn't have much respect for yourself or your body. I can't believe I'm saying this but now I think about it it is worse for a woman to sleep around like that.
    And yes probably all cases.

    That's my personal opinion, and probably many others, so there's no point in asking me any more questions.
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    (Original post by pippa90)
    Because, especially with women, quite a few of those 10 guys would probably be pretty pervy and disgusting, so for a woman especially it would be gross to let those guys get so close to you and inside you. You obviously wouldn't have much respect for yourself or your body. I can't believe I'm saying this but now I think about it it is worse for a woman to sleep around like that.
    And yes probably all cases.

    That's my personal opinion, and probably many others, so there's no point in asking me any more questions.
    I disagree a lot with your last statement, assessing our personal opinions, seeing how logical we think they are, if those opinions are worth holding, well how much someone does or doesn't do that, as well as how strongly we hold opinions is very important. And helping people to review them, regardless of if they should or will change their minds, raises certain questions about how much faith we put in the opinions and reasoning of each other.

    Moving on (to the start, what a strange order I'm replying to things in), you gave a very specific reason for why it was a negative thing, the type of guy.
    You presuppose here however that those things are objective. What you call disgusting and what I call disgusting, as well as what we consider to be pervy (which really is a relative term) can change very easily from one person to another.

    So there's a lot of room there for conceptual confusion.

    Narrowing it down to guys you do, or would, find to be those things, we then have to ask ourselves about the men who you do not or would not judge to be either to be disgusting and pervy (I'm ignoring the conditional 'and', or more replacing it with 'or' because I'm guessing that's more in line with what you mean, correct me if I'm wrong though).

    Next, even if a subject does agree with you when it comes down to asking if particular men are pervy/disgusting, if they did it for money would you hold the same view? If this woman doesn't get any pleasure from it, and literally needs the money, lets say that she's a single mother, and she's struggling to pay the bills and finds that this is the only way she can get the money in whilst having quality time with her children, do you still feel like you wouldn't be able to respect her?

    I mean if anything, that sounds like a massive commitment to make in putting children first. I'd struggle not to have a little respect at the very least based on that scenario.

    Onto the sex divide, why do you see it as relevant here?
    Obviously there are biological differences between men, women and intersexuals, but why are you setting it up to say that it's worse for women to do the same action (with all the relevant criteria) than men?

    Lastly, with regards to it being universal (all cases) if you felt that the 10 men were suave, sophisticated, sexy, kind, caring, affectionate and generally very positive men that you would be proud to sleep with on an individual basis, would it be 'as bad'?
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    (Original post by pippa90)
    Because, especially with women, quite a few of those 10 guys would probably be pretty pervy and disgusting
    So you made something up and formed an opinion based on it? That doesn't make sense.

    Why is everyone so horrible to men on here? Yes I said it! Men who sleep around aren't always nasty. And there are way more than 10 non-disgusting men who indulge in casual sex on the planet. Note: 10 in a week is a joke though.
 
 
 
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