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    (Original post by Kiss)
    I'm surprised to find myself agreeing with you for once.
    i didn't realise it was such a rare event.
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    (Original post by LittleMissNoface)
    Okay okay.
    So from what I know (which may wrong) women started to shave when clothes got shorter, and everyone seems to understand that.
    However I still don't get it?
    Why would women want to stop being hairy all of a sudden?
    Has it always been seen as unsightly for women? Was there ever a time when it wasn't?
    Why would we evolve with something if it unappealing for the opposite sex?
    However I would of thought that hair was never unsightly as it shows puberty has occurred, thus fertility?
    Looking younger and hairless surely is a sign of being too young to mate with?

    Please can someone explain this to me?
    Its all to do with the fashion industry, in the 1920's there was a advert for some women's dress without sleeves and the model had no arm pit hair, the razor industry quickly advertised razors for women's under arms and legs, as the dresses were also shorter than previously. That is when it all took off. Luckily today, there are some women who ignore all that hype about shaving and are not waxing or shaving their legs or under arms, however, unfortunately they are in the minority as most women do shave.
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    (Original post by wortandbeer)
    Because aesthetics are evil, and worse than the devil himself?

    In the 19th century, women wore long clothes. today as many women were short clothes, hair on the legs looks bad.

    Throughout history there have been aesthetic trends, I don't see the wrong in it.
    There is nothing wrong with non-hairy legs being a trend. It has happened throughout history, and at the same time throughout history hairy legs have been a trend.
    Or all hair for that matter. Even today some culture see natural hair as the beautiful norm.

    It is just questioning why the focus on women shaving and the pressures of that. Even the odd way it is tried to be rationalized when in reality it is just a trend.
    To say it is anything to do with masculinity or femininity is silly.
    To say we inherently find hair disgusting is silly.
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    (Original post by LittleMissNoface)
    There is nothing wrong with non-hairy legs being a trend. It has happened throughout history, and at the same time throughout history hairy legs have been a trend.
    Or all hair for that matter. Even today some culture see natural hair as the beautiful norm.

    It is just questioning why the focus on women shaving and the pressures of that. Even the odd way it is tried to be rationalized when in reality it is just a trend.
    To say it is anything to do with masculinity or femininity is silly.
    To say we inherently find hair disgusting is silly.
    Maybe I'm a product of my upbringing, but I do find hair disgusting. Unless it's on your head, eyebrows or eyelashes. Everything else should come off. I'm pretty sure a lot of people feel the same way. And it DOES look more feminine, which again might be because of what we're used to associating with women, but still.
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    (Original post by Miss G)
    Maybe I'm a product of my upbringing, but I do find hair disgusting. Unless it's on your head, eyebrows or eyelashes. Everything else should come off. I'm pretty sure a lot of people feel the same way. And it DOES look more feminine, which again might be because of what we're used to associating with women, but still.
    But still what?
    Do you not feel the need to question it a little?

    I know what you mean though. I dunno how it cannot be part of your upbringing it is everywhere. It is just the fact that it being feminine (femininity/masculinity itself is just fake) is completely constructed on fakery and is expected if born a certain sex.

    I know my sister feels the same way, so does my mum. However my dad, grandma and me don't.

    So do you find it disgusting on men or is it just a female thing, or does it depend?
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    (Original post by LittleMissNoface)
    But still what?
    Do you not feel the need to question it a little?

    I know what you mean though. I dunno how it cannot be part of your upbringing it is everywhere. It is just the fact that it being feminine (femininity/masculinity itself is just fake) is completely constructed on fakery and is expected if born a certain sex.

    I know my sister feels the same way, so does my mum. However my dad, grandma and me don't.

    So do you find it disgusting on men or is it just a female thing, or does it depend?
    I don't find it AS disgusting on guys, but I prefer guys who don't have hairy armpits/ a hairy chest etc.

    I think guys tend to be more attracted to girls with childlike features, due to their instinct to 'protect', and not having body hair is a childlike feature. This could be one reason why it's seen as attractive on females. This is just a guess though.
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    (Original post by Miss G)
    I don't find it AS disgusting on guys, but I prefer guys who don't have hairy armpits/ a hairy chest etc.

    I think guys tend to be more attracted to girls with childlike features, due to their instinct to 'protect', and not having body hair is a childlike feature. This could be one reason why it's seen as attractive on females. This is just a guess though.
    I think women also have this instinct to protect also, due to children. Similar to men.
    Well definitely with the discussion it seems men and women all like different things, which is nice, so hair is just a preference. Though, especially when young, there is a great feel for the pressure to shave.
    I think people just mature and choose for themselves. (That's what my nana said anyway )
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    (Original post by LittleMissNoface)
    I asked my boyfriend,
    He said it makes me look like a real woman, not a pre-pubescent girl????
    Of course it makes you look like a "real woman" if you don't shave or trim any hair, a pre-pubescent girl under 10 has no hair anywhere on her body except head, a real woman does and that is why your boyfriend said that. It does not matter too much about not having under arm hair as most women do shave that, but I do not like women who shave "down there" that does make them look like a pre-pubescent girl.
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    I don't buy that argument. If shaving your pubic hair makes you suddenly look like a pre-pubescent child, then you must have a really strange body.
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    (Original post by LittleMissNoface)
    haha okay,
    I do not shave and my boyfriend says that makes me look like a woman.
    If I did shave he said I would look like a pre-pubescent girl.
    Of course it would, my girlfriend like you has never shaved or trimmed her pubes in her life, she does not want to remain looking like a pre-pubescent girl either.
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    (Original post by almorr)
    Of course it makes you look like a "real woman" if you don't shave or trim any hair, a pre-pubescent girl under 10 has no hair anywhere on her body except head, a real woman does and that is why your boyfriend said that. It does not matter too much about not having under arm hair as most women do shave that, but I do not like women who shave "down there" that does make them look like a pre-pubescent girl.
    I think pubic hair is a preference though. Like I can't stand it on guys, and none of my boyfriends liked it on girls. Also, with the porn industry, everyone sees women who clearly 'shave down there' or wax, so that is something of a fad I think. Like a few decades ago everyone wanted 'the bush'. Anyway, pubic hair is more of a preference but hair everywhere else (besides on your head and eyebrows and lashes) seems to be widely regarded as 'gross', at least to the people I'm aquainted with.
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    (Original post by victoriajackson)
    Right ok I get it now! Yeah I think shaving everything but you're head looks pre-pubescent and weird if I'm honest haha. Glad my boyfriend agrees! Also I think because of things like pornography men think that they should find body hair repulsive rather than it being their actual opinion. More men than I thought don't like the brazillian look (the share the pre-pubescent opinion) so I think it's more a case of what most people expect people to think. I Don't know whether any of that makes any sense my mid is really muddled today
    No its not all muddled, its just silly for men and women to shave their pubic or under arm hair off, its better just to leave it the way nature intended, most men do, but many women of course shave the hair off under their arms because nowadays "its the thing to do"
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    (Original post by LittleMissNoface)
    There is nothing wrong with non-hairy legs being a trend. It has happened throughout history, and at the same time throughout history hairy legs have been a trend.
    Or all hair for that matter. Even today some culture see natural hair as the beautiful norm.

    It is just questioning why the focus on women shaving and the pressures of that. Even the odd way it is tried to be rationalized when in reality it is just a trend.
    To say it is anything to do with masculinity or femininity is silly.
    To say we inherently find hair disgusting is silly.
    It depends. People like to look good. Who are you to say otherwise?
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    (Original post by wortandbeer)
    It depends. People like to look good. Who are you to say otherwise?
    What do you mean?
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    (Original post by therisenmitten)
    Also judging by my (no homo) experiences in the uni gym, the 70's bush seems to be making a comeback

    ...but maybe it's just the continentals.
    :laugh:
 
 
 
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