Private schools should be banned!

Private schools cannot be banned due to a few people's jealousy. Private schools create uncorrupted boys and girls who do not smash up bus shelters or stab old women for their purses. We are purely at school for the education, not the fleeting relationships or chances to frustrate a teacher, we just try to create the best future possible for ourselves and leave everybody else well alone. The fact of the matter is Public schoolboys or girls do not believe that Comprehensives should be banned because we couldn't give a toss, we are interested in education and our future and we are not constantly trying to put others down because of their better education.

Classic selfish right-wing propaganda. Yeah, you 'couldn't give a toss'. That basically says it all...

And whether or not you're destined to become a criminal is based on upbringing, not the school you go to.

We are taught properly surrounded by decent people and role model teachers, therefore our criminal destiny is determined by our school to be unexistent.
In addition, to be honest I'm happy what I'm doing and learning and everybody in their council schools obviously are as well, so why don't we just leave one another alone to learn in our preffered environments, surely that is reasonable.

Firstly, I realise that this thread has been done before, however I believe the Op was incoherent in his argument and didn't even put a reasonably strong argument forward, instead, he just rambled. So here is my concise argument, with just 2 points.

Equality
Quite an obvious place to start is the argument that if by removing wealth as a factor of a child's academic success, the educational system and future generations of society as a whole would be a lot more equal.
Just look at where the top universities are in terms of proportions of students from private school - at the top end.
http://www.studentbeans.com/student-money/a/the-posh-university-league2169.html
Now look at this, studies have found there is a bias in the selection process.
http://www.independent.co.uk/student/news/top-universities-really-are-biased-in-favour-of-private-school-pupils-8549126.html

More effective
Finland went from having a mediocre education system, to the best in the world, how? They banned private schools and made education equal for all
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/schools/are-finnish-schools-the-best-in-the-world-2289083.html
If you look at other top countries for education, you will find they all have a similar ethos, while "Great" Britain sits in a mediocre 31st place.

I truly believe an education system where equality rules would greatly improve standards for the whole country. Since this is an "Educational Debate", what are your thoughts on this?

Private schooling does give you an advantage in gaining a place at a good university/good course that's pretty much evident. I would also say it makes much more rounded individuals. However to say it should be abolished is wrong even if it is unfair in a sense.

A private school is a business just like any other service provider like Tesco or a drycleaners. They provide you with an education and other activities in return for money. There is nothing unethical or unfair about this point. What would be unfair is stopping owners of a private school from running their "business". Yes it might be annoying that students from a rich backround are able to go to a potentially better school than the typical student but I still don't think this is unfair.

If you say this is unfair then in my opinion most of the "rich" student's entire lives are "unfair". They may wine & dine better, have better leisure activities, live a comfortable life etc etc.

If we abolish pvt schools then it would be unfair on those who want to go to one, those who can afford to go to one and those who own one. The only way to improve our education system is to better our state education.

I don't see how the Finland case has anything to do with fees. There are a bunch of factors that could determine why their system is better than ours.

Equality should be created by pulling those at the bottom up the ladder, not by kicking those at the top down.

Wow. I've met quite a few warped snobs in my life, but you're something else. I'm not even going to bother arguing with you any further. All your comment shows is that turds cannot be polished, not even those who come from a world full of pinot noir sippers named Edwardo and Sebastian...

Equality should be created by giving everyone an equal chance to climb the ladder, and not letting some people piggy back on their parents shoulders

Oh that old line, 'I'm not even going to bother arguing with you' you wouldn't believe the amount of people like you who have used that to get out of thinking of some sort of response. I would not ever suggest the closure of all comprehensives because people obviously seem to enjoy going there and learning in that sort of environment. I however enjoy going to a public school and learning in that type of environment so I really don't understand your issue with me doing so. I don't see why there can't, in your world, be some sort of choice as to what school you go to some like one some like another and I don't want to deny another person I their preferred style just because I prefer the other, unlike you.

As Margaret Thatcher once said 'You would rather the poor be poorer provided that the rich were less rich.' It is an analogy that can be applied here. You are not interested in those at the bottom of the ladder being pulled further up just the ones at the top being pulled down. With your attitude equality in universities etc will NEVER be achieved.

What on earth do you mean 'people obviously seem to enjoy going there?' Says who? Your attitude is that those from lower economic backgrounds are also lower forms of human, and that they don't deserve a better education than you, because they are inferior to you, whereas the privileged people are 'special' breeds, because they're superior to the rest of us in every possible way. Maybe your thoughts aren't as black and white as that, but that's fundamentally it, if you look deep into the recesses of your soul. You know, public schools implicitly brainwash their pupils to think this way, and you're a classic deluded victim of the such exploits of stupidity and ignorance. You should feel embarrassed...

Look, I want you to understand, a preference is something you want. It's a first choice. I can't believe I have to spell this out, especially to someone who's privately educated. Hypothetically, many people would like to go to public school, but there's one problem: they can't afford it! Nobody 'prefers' going to a state school, when better schools exist. Jesus...

But since you go to public school, your opinion must be important than mine...

Have you ever thought that maybe its the people being at the top that causing others to be pushed down?

And also, I don't think comps aren't as good as private schools just for the fun of it. I would make a guess what it might be but my limited education means I have no idea (but I think it might be money...)

No, because it is not. You are pushing yourselves down by dedicating your lives to attempting to pull those higher than you down. The lower classes contribute the least to the state but get the most out which is then destroyed and the cycle starts again.
Perhaps your self proclaimed title of limited education may also explain why your last paragraph did not make sense. From what I can understand of it I can tell you this now, Public schools have bursaries and scholarships for those from poor families, anyone can join a public school however you are so deluded as to suggest that people can't afford to go, wrong.

You honestly believe the reason people from poorer backgrounds remain there because they dedicate their time to bringing down the rich?

'dedicating your lives'

'The state is destroyed and the cycle starts again'

'anyone can join a public school'

'deluded as to suggest that people can't afford to go'

I don't even know what to make of these claims

My mum works at a private school, she oversaw the process of scholarships and its a patronising process in which 1 out of 8 of the smartest kids in the area succeeds.

maybe private schools create social divisions, but let's face it, if you were to ask someone if they'd prefer for their children to go to a state school or a private school, they'd probably say private.

You can go private in every other sector of society, so why not education? What gives you the right to say children shouldn't be allowed to achieve as much as they possibly can? It would be great if children from public and state schools were to integrate a bit more, to show the pupils state school children aren't thugs who knife you and private school pupils aren't posh snobs, but to subject all children to a mediocre education simply because you think paying for education is wrong is wrong.