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    (Original post by alevelzzz)
    Really? I've never heard a med student say that before about dentistry students
    Me neither.

    Dentistry is actually more competitive to get into (more applicants per place due to less places existing).
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    (Original post by alevelzzz)
    Really? I've never heard a med student say that before about dentistry students
    The student in question was a particularly snobby one. No one liked them
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    (Original post by Jenniferann232)
    The student in question was a particularly snobby one. No one liked them
    Classic, probably someone whos parents spent £100k+ for their schooling to get into university
    Not exactly an achievement.
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    (Original post by Scott.M)
    Me neither.

    Dentistry is actually more competitive to get into (more applicants per place due to less places existing).
    I don't know about that. Whatever the difference is, its safe to say its very small.
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    (Original post by Scott.M)
    Me neither.

    Dentistry is actually more competitive to get into (more applicants per place due to less places existing).
    http://www.ucas.com/data-analysis/da...ect-group-2013

    Medicine: 11.2 applications per acceptance
    Dentistry: 9.7 applications per acceptance

    :p:
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    (Original post by Chief Wiggum)
    http://www.ucas.com/data-analysis/da...ect-group-2013

    Medicine: 11.2 applications per acceptance
    Dentistry: 9.7 applications per acceptance

    :p:
    wow that info is pretty cool. Interesting how dentistry = medicine in 08 and dentistry was more competitive in 09/10. Interesting to find out why

    IIRC for 2014 entry they reduced the entry to dental schools by 10% so it will probably be a lot closer again from this year.

    But yeah, pretty much the same

    Im assuming the reason why the pharmacy etc also have a high ratio is because of 5th choices for medics/dentists too?
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    (Original post by alevelzzz)
    wow that info is pretty cool. Interesting how dentistry = medicine in 08 and dentistry was more competitive in 09/10. Interesting to find out why

    IIRC for 2014 entry they reduced the entry to dental schools by 10% so it will probably be a lot closer again from this year.

    But yeah, pretty much the same
    Yeah they're very very similar.
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    (Original post by Chief Wiggum)
    Yeah they're very very similar.
    Im assuming the pharmacy etc section is slightly skewed because of the number of 5th choices for medics/dentists?
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    (Original post by alevelzzz)
    Im assuming the pharmacy etc section is slightly skewed because of the number of 5th choices for medics/dentists?
    Maybe, I don't really know.
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    (Original post by Chief Wiggum)
    http://www.ucas.com/data-analysis/da...ect-group-2013

    Medicine: 11.2 applications per acceptance
    Dentistry: 9.7 applications per acceptance

    :p:
    Ahh fair that is interesting information!


    (Original post by alevelzzz)
    wow that info is pretty cool. Interesting how dentistry = medicine in 08 and dentistry was more competitive in 09/10. Interesting to find out why

    IIRC for 2014 entry they reduced the entry to dental schools by 10% so it will probably be a lot closer again from this year.

    But yeah, pretty much the same

    Im assuming the reason why the pharmacy etc also have a high ratio is because of 5th choices for medics/dentists too?
    They cut the number of places a second time so it is a 15% decrease now I heard, D:
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    Students of medicine/dentistry look down on their less studious/scientifically minded peers? No way!? :laugh:

    Pretty sure students of medicine also look down on students of dentistry btw

    If ever you encounter such snottiness congratulate them on their achievements then ask them when the last time they had an original thought was, that should disarm the douches
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    Students of medicine/dentistry look down on their less studious/scientifically minded peers? No way!? :laugh:

    Pretty sure students of medicine also look down on students of dentistry btw

    If ever you encounter such snottiness congratulate them on their achievements then ask them when the last time they had an original thought was, that should disarm the douches
    The only reason why medical students might look down on dentistry students is because they think dentistry students are in it for the money. Otherwise they study for the same amount of time, entry requirements are the same, basically the same application process etc, etc
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    (Original post by Scott.M)

    They cut the number of places a second time so it is a 15% decrease now I heard, D:
    Where did you hear that from?
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    (Original post by alevelzzz)
    Where did you hear that from?
    Friend on my course. I trust him as he always keeps up to date with things like this and has always been right about this type of thing.

    Atm at a dental practice there will be about 3 dentists per hygienist, but the government is looking to swap that around to 3 hygienists per dentist. Hence they are decreasing the number of dentistry places and increasing the number of hygienist places.

    In response the hygienist course is reportedly being increased from 2 years to 3 years.

    Dentistry is changing... a lot. Eventually dentists will only be carrying out the complex stuff, whereas hygienists will be doing your check ups.

    I believe they are doing this because it costs less to train hygienists.
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    (Original post by Scott.M)
    Friend on my course. I trust him as he always keeps up to date with things like this and has always been right about this type of thing.

    Atm at a dental practice there will be about 3 dentists per hygienist, but the government is looking to swap that around to 3 hygienists per dentist. Hence they are decreasing the number of dentistry places and increasing the number of hygienist places.

    In response the hygienist course is reportedly being increased from 2 years to 3 years.

    Dentistry is changing... a lot. Eventually dentists will only be carrying out the complex stuff, whereas hygienists will be doing your check ups.

    I believe they are doing this because it costs less to train hygienists.
    Doesn't sound too great for dentists then... maybe unemployment?
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    (Original post by alevelzzz)
    Doesn't sound too great for dentists then... maybe unemployment?
    Actually on the contrary we will probably be earning more than ever due to only doing complex stuff.

    They are monitoring it slowly to ensure no dentist/hygienist unemployment - As they train us both so don't want to waste their money. The only way there could be unemployment is if they suddenly trained an absolute ton of hygienists (so that there would be enough of them to replace us), but they won't do that as they don't want us unemployed.

    I believe we will just see the number of dentistry places at uni slowly decline and the number of hygienist places slowly increase until most retiring dentists are being replaced by hygienists, with there being enough dentists to ensure every practice has a sufficient amount.

    Can see it causing controversy though as practises in kinda obscure areas (so for example not in london) sometimes find it hard to attract dentists (as how many unemployed dentists do you know?), and this will only make it worse for them.
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    (Original post by alevelzzz)
    they study for the same amount of time
    Only for core courses - some medicine courses are longer, and then there's the additional post-quali training requirements, typically more onerous for medics
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    Only for core courses - some medicine courses are longer, and then there's the additional post-quali training requirements, typically more onerous for medics
    The standard course is 5 years for both, dentists who choose to work in hospitals train for the same amount of time as doctors to become consultants and what not.
    Theres no way a medic can look down on a dentist, GPs and GDPs are basically synonymous.
    You could argue dentists laugh at medics since they earn a great deal more than them despite working half their hours.
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    (Original post by alevelzzz)
    dentists who choose to work in hospitals train for the same amount of time as doctors to become consultants and what not
    The amount of time spent in post-qual training depends on the specialism (many medical specialisms require much longer periods) and hospital training is not typically nearly as onerous for dentists
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    (Original post by alevelzzz)
    The standard course is 5 years for both, dentists who choose to work in hospitals train for the same amount of time as doctors to become consultants and what not.
    Theres no way a medic can look down on a dentist, GPs and GDPs are basically synonymous.
    You could argue dentists laugh at medics since they earn a great deal more than them despite working half their hours.
    Dentist consultant training is shorter tbf, but it makes sense since we already spend 5 years essentially specialising at dental school, so any further specialisation isn't going to take as long as in medicine
 
 
 
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