(Original post by lasertown)
There is sometimes an underlying claim of supremacy in what some feminists say-- sometimes
. I do not believe however, that all feminists are like this. Not at all. I do however believe that in the movement of feminism, women are almost completely focussed on, which I think is very retrogressive.
I get the gist of what you are trying to put across, but I disagree.
From the comparisons you have drawn, this is what I have concluded:
- minimising pay gap - comparable to women's issues
- white people can be rappers too - comparable to men's issues
This is just another clear example of feminists (assuming you are one) minimising men's issues. So you are saying, the fact that according to English law, men cannot be raped, is not a massive issue?
You say women have a greater disadvantage overall, why? Women's issues are worse for women and men's issues are worse for men, therefore it is (as I have already said) subjective. We feel more strongly about issues that immediately affect us. Therefore we can not compare it at all.
What you are suggesting is not equality. If it were, you would have no problem with what I had stated.
No, and I admit in my example I was a little biased because it's very late and I couldn't think off the top of my head anything better. I acknowledge that men can be raped, something this guy doesn't:
(Original post by louieee)
women are 9x more likely to be raped than a male
(Original post by HigherMinion)
On the rape thing: that's a startling statistic, but 9X0 is still 0.
and I know it's a huge issue, which is why I think it needs to be treated as separate because otherwise -
if people are like "men have disadvantages and so do women" and that frame of mind becomes common, we run the risk of thinking that both genders are equl and so we might just come complacent and not bother advocating anyone's rights because "we're all equal after all so lets just allow 90% of rapes to have female victims, because afterall the minority of rape victims are male and those men can't charge their attackers with proper rape so that balances out the fact that a women has one in six chance of getting sexually assaulted".
Again with that last point I'm aware I was being somewhat biased again, but I can't help but feel that every inequality that men face, women encounter that same aspect but a little more severe, whereas a lot of disadvantages women have aren't reciprocated in the male world.
But I'll forget about that for a moment, lets just assume that both genders have an equal number of equally-sized inequalities: I still can't see why a group of people can't advocate the rights of 50% of the population while another group does the same for the other, ultimately aiming towards the same goal - equality.
Though in my opinion, after endless research and looking at the statistics, many of the largest, most prominent issues are with women as the sufferers, and I think it's really important that these issues are focussed on.
Another example, gay rights. Millions of people were protesting to allow gay marriage, but why weren't they advocating straight rights too? Like how straight men's masculinity is mocked when they wear make-up? Or protests for the rights of people of colour when white people face discrimination too. It's ridiculous for every single group out there that advocates rights for a specific demographic to just lose focus on their group, because then nothing would get done. What I'm saying is, women do face inequality in certain aspects of their lives, and I don't see why people can't have the aim to change that. I donate to WWF, but I can't spread myself thin and donate to BHF, macmillan, oxfam and all this other stuff too. I'm focussing on the issues which are important to me, because I know that there's somebody else donating to all these other charities.
I can't really explain :s