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    (Original post by Law-Hopeful)
    Prsom.

    Why is that proving so hard for some people to understand?
    It's "hard" when you can no longer see what someone is saying. And unlike some I am not impressed that he even chose a TSR name with his University in it as masturbatory self proclamation of how much cleverer he is than everyone else. There's PhD's and then there is common sense.
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    (Original post by Cherie Amour)
    There's PhD's and then there is common sense.
    And you clearly possess neither.
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    (Original post by driftawaay)
    I love how everyone always points out how 'pedophilia is natural like homosexuality' but nobody ever says 'pedophilia is natural like heterosexuality'

    Secondly, pedophiles do not like children romantically. They like them sexually. They want to **** children, not marry them and have intellectual conversations with them about the theory of relativity.

    Also, what are you talking about? 'They would want to protect and satisfy that child?' Are you saying they want to protect those children and **** them and give them an orgasm at the same time? Really? How noble of them.

    So because we don't have children we aren't qualified to discuss pedophilia? Because parents are qualified and they would have a different opinion to those who don't have children? No parent would ever leave their child with someone who was known as a pedophile unless the parents were pedophiles themselves.

    You need help. I think I just spotted a pedophile. Get help.
    1- Natural like homosexualiy, natural like heterosexuality. What's the difference? Does using either comparisons detract the strength of the argument?? What's the difference?
    2- Some paedophiles do like children romantically. There's a difference between a heterosexual man having many romantic relationships and a heterosexual man who only rapes lots of women cause he thinks the man. Grow up you bag of dungbeatles
    3- i didn't say childless nincompoops aren't qualified to have a discussion about this. I'm saying actual parents are more qualified to. Get the difference?
    4- You may be right that not a lot of parents would want their children in the protection of paedophiles but that's irrelevant to the argument. The argument is, "Is paedophilia always wrong and should it be legalised?" Obviously, any kind of "legal activities", if properly recognised would be done after parental consent, lol though i guess there's a slim chance of that happening
    5- I think i just spotted a self-righteous plonker. Do me the favour of showing fellow human beings common decency.
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    (Original post by Law-Hopeful)
    And you clearly possess neither.
    Opinions, opinions. Not interested in convincing an avatar to agree with me.
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    (Original post by Cherie Amour)
    To everyone:

    Pedophilia is termed pedophilic disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), and the manual defines it as a paraphilia in which adults or adolescents 16 years of age or older have intense and recurrent sexual urges towards and fantasies about prepubescent children that they have either acted on or which cause them distress or interpersonal difficulty.

    So enough with the pontificating that it is is only the thought.
    Yet again, you are still wrong. Please re-read the definition. "...they have acted on OR causes them distress OR interpersonal difficulty.

    OR is what is called a logical disjunctive, which you have been repeatedly told. If you do not know what a logical disjunctive is, look here.

    This means that someone is a pedophile if they have acted on it OR if they haven't and their feelings have caused them distress or interpersonal difficulty.

    Enough of your making things up and not understanding how psychological definitions, and in particular logical disjunctions, work. Please do not return to the thread until you've realized that, in fact, you are incorrect and I've clearly and plainly highlighted this to you numerous times.
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    (Original post by Cherie Amour)
    It's "hard" when you can no longer see what someone is saying. And unlike some I am not impressed that he even chose a TSR name with his University in it as masturbatory self proclamation of how much cleverer he is than everyone else. There's PhD's and then there is common sense.
    You still have not read the definition appropriately as a logical disjunction. You're what, an A-level student? Don't give me a teenage know-it-all attitude, it's annoying and childish. Believe it or not, people do actually know more than you.
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    Oh for ****s sake leave the children alone you idiot.

    The vast majority of people who were sexually abused suffer lifelong problems as a result children are not ready physically or emotionally to engage in sexual activity and it will never be okay to either subject them to it or argue they wanted it they don't have the capacity to make that choice. They are to be protected. If you can't deal with that then go and hand yourself into the local police station because you are a threat to our culture and our most vulnerable.

    To argue if you don't act on it then it's fine and just view stuff or whatever no it's not it all feeds into the systemic a use of children. If you've got a problem then get someone to beat the **** out of you in the form of BDSM or something. Because if you think suffering is okay then you should be okay with receiving it and leaving the kids alone.

    Cannot believe people are getting 'debatey' about this topic. Nothing is up for debate you plebs.
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    (Original post by Little Popcorns)
    Oh for ****s sake leave the children alone you idiot.

    The vast majority of people who were sexually abused suffer lifelong problems as a result children are not ready physically or emotionally to engage in sexual activity.
    This is a thread about pedophilia, not about sexual abuse or rape. You've committed a fallacy of false equivalence.

    Not a single person here has advocated for the abuse of children, nor said that the abuse of children is okay - you're just committing a straw man.
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    (Original post by Cherie Amour)
    I'm not in a rage. I never swore or CAPS or insulted or put up ! marks. You did. And if you quote me then I will be back in the thread, genius.
    That being said, yes I am over arguing the meaning of something very simple.
    Thought you were trying to find a way to not have notifications pop up. You can just ignore them, genius.
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    (Original post by Little Popcorns)
    Oh for ****s sake leave the children alone you idiot.

    The vast majority of people who were sexually abused suffer lifelong problems as a result children are not ready physically or emotionally to engage in sexual activity and it will never be okay to either subject them to it or argue they wanted it they don't have the capacity to make that choice. They are to be protected. If you can't deal with that then go and hand yourself into the local police station because you are a threat to our culture and our most vulnerable.

    To argue if you don't act on it then it's fine and just view stuff or whatever no it's not it all feeds into the systemic a use of children. If you've got a problem then get someone to beat the **** out of you in the form of BDSM or something. Because if you think suffering is okay then you should be okay with receiving it and leaving the kids alone.

    Cannot believe people are getting 'debatey' about this topic. Nothing is up for debate you plebs.
    And that's that.

    (Original post by driftawaay)
    Thought you were trying to find a way to not have notifications pop up. You can just ignore them, genius.
    You have a serious attitude problem. Either find love quick or humble yourself. You might have a Cara dp, but you're not Cara. Don't be a diva on a message forum.
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    (Original post by Cherie Amour)
    And that's that.



    You have a serious attitude problem. Either find love quick or humble yourself. You might have a Cara dp, but you're not Cara. Don't be a diva on a message forum.
    That's cute but as I said before, trying to sound superior and witty doesn't make you look smarter, it just makes you come off as an angry child. Still haven't found the way to ignore a notification? Do you need a tutorial?
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    (Original post by NYU2012)
    This is a thread about pedophilia, not about sexual abuse or rape. You've committed a fallacy of false equivalence.

    Not a single person here has advocated for the abuse of children, nor said that the abuse of children is okay - you're just committing a straw man.
    Right so what're you arguing for private gratification over innocence.

    Go read a ****ing book.

    Go read a ****ing newspaper.

    Go have a shower.

    But arguing for being a pedophile is largely on the ****ed up side of life.

    If you have such tendencies then there's nothing else for it but shutting the **** up and keeping them to yourself. Go home take your smelly breath and go to bed. Alternatively get a life, some hobbies etc and maybe the ambit of your sexuality won't keep expanding with your porn genres.
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    (Original post by Little Popcorns)
    Oh for ****s sake leave the children alone you idiot.

    The vast majority of people who were sexually abused suffer lifelong problems as a result children are not ready physically or emotionally to engage in sexual activity and it will never be okay to either subject them to it or argue they wanted it they don't have the capacity to make that choice. They are to be protected. If you can't deal with that then go and hand yourself into the local police station because you are a threat to our culture and our most vulnerable.

    To argue if you don't act on it then it's fine and just view stuff or whatever no it's not it all feeds into the systemic a use of children. If you've got a problem then get someone to beat the **** out of you in the form of BDSM or something. Because if you think suffering is okay then you should be okay with receiving it and leaving the kids alone.

    Cannot believe people are getting 'debatey' about this topic. Nothing is up for debate you plebs.
    Honestly I dont know how people miss the point of these threads. There is one of these popping up all the time. 'So since homosexuality is legal isnt it time to legalize pedophilia?' The OP was not legitimately wondering why pedophilia isnt legal, they are just saying that gays are like pedophiles and that legalizing homosexuality will lead to the legalization of pedophilia. Thats what the OP was saying. I dont know how people never pick up on what the OPs say in these threads.
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    (Original post by Cherie Amour)
    lolWhat is your issue? I calmly disagree with you, try doing the same and not being a child.
    This is an empathetic comment. I can't help but feel you knee-jerk revile at the concept of pedophiles because having attraction to children is so taboo. I don't believe anyone in this thread sympathises with child molesters whatsoever (and if anyone does they are definitely someone to worry about). There are however many people in this thread being very objective and matter-of-fact about the reality that pedophilia is something that is real just as much as schizophrenia is and, just like, say, schizophrenics, they can live in normal society without hurting anyone. Once you dust away the tabooness and separate the act of child molestation and the paraphilia, pedophilia, the knee-jerk reaction should hopefully go away.

    Think about it pragmatically. We want to stop children being sexually abused. Unfortunately, there are humans who are pedophiles, and we have no way to identify who they are unless they admit it to someone. We can either knee-jerk isolate, expose and shame pedophiles as they 'come out' which may make them more unstable, unconfiding and thus, potentially, more likely to child molest (not good). Or we can offer them confidentiality and psycho-social support in return for confessing to a health professional and ensure they keep their desires under control, and ultimately reduce child molestation rates (much better).The only other solution would be to mass kill all pedophiles and that strays into such screwed up moral ground let's not even consider that as an option.
    (Original post by Moonstruck16)
    It usually takes trolls quite a while to go downhill in these kind of threads. Congratulations, you lost all credibility the second you posted 'submit' on your first post.
    You really expect anyone to come round to your point of view when you're being so obnoxious?
    (Original post by Jamie55)
    Without paedophilia, would we have sexual child abuse?
    Apparently there are non pedophiles who will abuse children. (Not really surprising that this can occur when you consider sexual abuse, and in fact sex itself, can be much more about power than sexuality.) Being a pedophile is therefore not a pre-requisite to being a child molester.
    (Original post by driftawaay)
    I love how everyone always points out how 'pedophilia is natural like homosexuality' but nobody ever says 'pedophilia is natural like heterosexuality'
    THANK YOU
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    (Original post by Little Popcorns)
    Right so what're you arguing for private gratification over innocence.
    I usually like your posts, but I don't quite understand what you're getting at here. Could you explain?
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    (Original post by DelphiDeWitt)
    Think about it pragmatically. We want to stop children being sexually abused. Unfortunately, there are humans who are pedophiles, and we have no way to identify who they are unless they admit it to someone. We can either knee-jerk isolate, expose and shame pedophiles as they 'come out'
    I didn't get any of that from this thread. It seems people were triviliasing the threats of pedophilia and got caught up bragging about their academic achievements or arguing semantics. I also never said pedophiles do not need help. I literally said they do.
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    (Original post by driftawaay)
    Honestly I dont know how people miss the point of these threads. There is one of these popping up all the time. 'So since homosexuality is legal isnt it time to legalize pedophilia?' The OP was not legitimately wondering why pedophilia isnt legal, they are just saying that gays are like pedophiles and that legalizing homosexuality will lead to the legalization of pedophilia. Thats what the OP was saying. I dont know how people never pick up on what the OPs say in these threads.
    Trust me I have a law degree I picked up on it I just think the most important thing is the fact that pedophilia is a feature in the context of potentially legitimising it even for the purposes of devil's advocate I just think it's stupid and sick. I know you're worried about the homosexuality aspect as you yourself are at least a lesbian but surely you should be more worried about the innocents who can't argue for themselves. But still fair enough that you would argue that corner and I agree that too is an important point to make. Homosexuals are consenting adults it is in no way the same.
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    People should google virped.

    Give it a read, it's quite an interesting perspective on this topic......
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    (Original post by Law-Hopeful)
    I usually like your posts, but I don't quite understand what you're getting at here. Could you explain?
    He said I was off topic as I was focused on the topic of child abuse and that was not what the OP was talking about.

    My point is whether it's child abuse that's being discussed or the fact of people being attracted to children but not acting upon it... Either way we have trivialised it here and made it into a debate about academic achievements somehow and other stupid and irrelevant crap when there's a serious issue at stake. We want to be careful that just because there's so much about pedophilia in the media at the moment that we are not falling into the territory of treating it as 'just another fact of life'. It isn't.
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    It's wrong. Pedos using the vulnerability of young kids when they don't know a thing.... It's wrong and it's a crime.

    If they have sexual thoughts about kids and don't act upon their attraction... It's somewhat still wrong to me. It's not even curiosity.
 
 
 
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