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    (Original post by The Free Radical)
    Why does he feel the need to compliment a female coworker on her appearance?

    Her appearance has zero relevance to her ability to effectively perform her job.
    Of course it doesn't, that's why I'm saying that both Proundman and Carter-Silk are in the wrong. Carter-Silk was exceptionally unprofessional, albeit benevolently. And she responded immaturely and rashly.

    I don't expect to be called a 'misogynist' or 'sexist' if I call a girl 'stunning' :lol:
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    (Original post by VotreAltesse)
    Of course it doesn't, that's why I'm saying that both Proundman and Carter-Silk are in the wrong. Carter-Silk was exceptionally unprofessional, albeit benevolently. And she responded immaturely and rashly.

    I don't expect to be called a 'misogynist' or 'sexist' if I call a girl 'stunning' :lol:
    If her boyfriend kicks your ass for saying so, you were asking for it
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    (Original post by VotreAltesse)
    I was in Amsterdam a couple weeks ago. I was walking towards Amsterdam Centraal and this woman dropped her umbrella. She was pushing her bike, so I decided to pick the umbrella up for her.

    She didn't say anything... no thank you, no nothing... not even a ****ing smile.

    For those who are dutch and think I don't know how to say thank you:

    "Bedankt" or "Dank u wel". She didn't say a thing.

    Probably felt I was a con artist or rapist or something evil.
    Chivalry is truly dead
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    [QUOTE=alex0110;59270699]
    (Original post by memoriial)
    I totally accept that many women can behave way out of line, especially when men are kind enough to open doors, etc - but she called out the barrister in order to encourage other women to call men out. It's not the only issue she's been campaigning for, either - she's also dealt in campaigning for awareness of FGM, and other issues.

    'It's completely inappropriate to make sexually charged comments towards a stranger with in a professional context and it shows just how badly adjusted many guys are to think this is ok.'

    My personal feelings, the comments were not particularly sexually charged, in fact these would have been considered chivalrous in a previous decade. Furthermore the fact she has campaigned is both relevant and irrelevant. Irrelevant in the sense that the comments were not 'sexually charged' (stunning pic hardly translates to wanna bang me for a promotion). No doubt ill advised

    This brings me to my second point. As a 57 year old barrister, I find he is a scapegoat, an easy scalp for feminism. It is critical to understand that men of this age (I know more than most, I have the most technologically inept father at home) they don't know better. Their is a lack of online etiquette, a lack of understanding of what would be considered latter 20th century/ early 21st century movements promoting feminism. My point being, a 57 year old lawyer, specializing in corporate law who even sent comments to his own daughters Linkedin proves the point that he is clearly a man of ilk from decades previous. Wouldn't surprise me if he had no facebook account (of face space as dad calls it)

    Very good points, my mum suggested the same thing.
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    QUOTE=alex0110;59270725]Chivalry is truly dead[ QUOTE]


    I wouldn't say it's brahn bread... but it's definitely dyin'.
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    QUOTE=The Free Radical;59270721]If her boyfriend kicks your ass for saying so, you were asking for it[/QUOTE]


    What?
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    I'm a guy, like to think I've been brought up the right way

    I don't expect girls to have sex with me if i compliment them

    Yet I guarantee, women reading this will label me as a sexist. Usually I dont post on issues to do with women's rights because the majority of stories I hear in the news, women are in the right. Rape is inexcusable. Women should be treated equally

    This story isn't one of those
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    QUOTE=SmallTownGirl;59269049]Oh no. Poor men won't feel like they can comment on a women's appearance in inappropriate situations. How will women cope without being objectified? How will society cope when men see a woman's achievements ahead of their appearance?[/QUOTE]


    Definine an 'innapropriate situation' for me then, I'm legitimately curious.

    If I go up to a girl at University who I find extremely attractive and start singing 'You're beautiful' by James Blunt... will I be called a sexist, misogynistic prick? or will she blush and say thank you? And I ****ing objectifying her??? :lol:

    All the old sod did was use 'stunning' to describe her appearance. He didn't mean in maliciously, he didn't mean it sexually, in good faith... SHE is the person who blew it out of proportion.


    Don't even bother telling me "You've missed the point", because I haven't... in the setting it was indeed unprofessional... so he is at fault too, but his comment didn't warrant her snide remarks.
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    (Original post by The Free Radical)
    You're missing the point.


    It's completely inappropriate to make sexually charged comments towards a stranger within a professional context and it shows just how badly adjusted many guys are to think this is ok.
    Sexually charged? He said you look stunning not that he wanted to shag her. I don't really see how LinkedIn is a professional context, it's a professionals social media but it's still social media, it's very different to being in an office. His only means of communication with this woman was LinkedIn and he felt the urge to compliment her - something which caused her no harm and would have been taken positively by any right thinking human


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    QUOTE=alex0110;59270807]I'm a guy, like to think I've been brought up the right way

    I don't expect girls to have sex with me if i compliment them

    Yet I guarantee, women reading this will label me as a sexist. Usually I dont post on issues to do with women's rights because the majority of stories I hear in the news, women are in the right. Rape is inexcusable. Women should be treated equally

    This story isn't one of those[/QUOTE]


    I was brought up the exact same way. I don't miss a chance to tell a girl I find attractive that I find her beautiful or whatever.... I, like you, don't expect sex or anything at all in return.
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    (Original post by Underscore__)
    Sexually charged? He said you look stunning not that he wanted to shag her. I don't really see how LinkedIn is a professional context, it's a professionals social media but it's still social media, it's very different to being in an office. His only means of communication with this woman was LinkedIn and he felt the urge to compliment her - something which caused her no harm and would have been taken positively by any right thinking human


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    She's far from 'stunning' anyway :lol:
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    Blah blah men can't communicate blah blah men should lift heavy things blah blah
    women are superior as multitasking blah blah

    Women are always saying sexist things in and out of the work place
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    (Original post by redferry)
    Point completely missed right there...


    You wait til after work/socialising then invite them for a drink, you don't tell them ' you're fit ' in professional setting, its belittling and rude.
    1. You don't know what time it was, it was over social media.
    2. He didn't call her fit, he said she was stunning, which is nicer and more polite IMO.
    3. If he did do that, she would still complain about it because they are work partners etc. He couldn't have won.
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    (Original post by redferry)
    Point completely missed right there...


    You wait til after work/socialising then invite them for a drink, you don't tell them ' you're fit ' in professional setting, its belittling and rude.
    I just do not understand how people fail to understand this and how they do not see that acting this way is in addition to being totally inappropriate, awkward as ****.

    My mind is just totally bewildered :facepalm2:
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    (Original post by SmallTownGirl)
    Oh no. Poor men won't feel like they can comment on a women's appearance in inappropriate situations. How will women cope without being objectified? How will society cope when men see a woman's achievements ahead of their appearance?
    Your sarcasm and non stop moaning is starting to get annoying as ****. Another radical feminist who clearly doesn't know what sexism really is.
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    (Original post by VotreAltesse)
    QUOTE=SmallTownGirl;59269049]Oh no. Poor men won't feel like they can comment on a women's appearance in inappropriate situations. How will women cope without being objectified? How will society cope when men see a woman's achievements ahead of their appearance?

    Definine an 'innapropriate situation' for me then, I'm legitimately curious.

    If I go up to a girl at University who I find extremely attractive and start singing 'You're beautiful' by James Blunt... will I be called a sexist, misogynistic prick? or will she blush and say thank you? And I ****ing objectifying her??? :lol:

    All the old sod did was use 'stunning' to describe her appearance. He didn't mean in maliciously, he didn't mean it sexually, in good faith... SHE is the person who blew it out of proportion.


    Don't even bother telling me "You've missed the point", because I haven't... in the setting it was indeed unprofessional... so he is at fault too, but his comment didn't warrant her snide remarks.[/QUOTE]

    I reckon small town girl is the type of woman to scream at men for being sexist when they hold the door open for her.
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    (Original post by The Free Radical)
    You're missing the point.


    It's completely inappropriate to make sexually charged comments towards a stranger within a professional context and it shows just how badly adjusted many guys are to think this is ok.
    It's even less professional to publish a private message on a social media.
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    She'l die alone.


    Gonna suck for all the normal people that like recieving compliments if this 'rude to compliment a female' thing becomes an actual thing.
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    The comment was wrong in the context it was given, undoubtedly, but, as others have said, so was making the guy's name public.
    She is doing this to advance her public image (probably looking for a way in to politics) ("...has been building up her media profile for the past three years by writing for the Guardian, the Independent and several magazines, as well as being a guest on BBC Radio 4’s Woman’s Hour...") and I sincerely hope it backfires for her catastrophically.
    "If men and women were truly equal, she said, “men’s genitals would be sliced up” in the same way that some women are subjected to female genital mutilation (FGM)"


    *rolls eyes*

    Sorry if these points have been covered, I cba to read all nine pages.
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    If the roles were reversed (women said nice thing to man), we wouldn't even be hearing about this.

    There is an issue with treatment of (particularly younger) women in the work place and it can be disrespectful, but it's overreactive stories like this that make many people turn a blind eye to the issue because they assume every story is just another melodramatic feminist causing drama.


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