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    (Original post by paul514)
    You're assumption that people don't know all governments borrow money is wrong and if you think labour even has the slightest chance without a recession you are deluded


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    I laugh at these comments, labour caused less recessions than conservatives all together. Go and look it up you ignorance human. Also, please state how labour caused the global crisis, it was dirty politics from conservatives in 2010.
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    I aint into politics, but why is there a huge dislike for Corbyn?
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    (Original post by ckfeister)
    I laugh at these comments, labour caused less recessions than conservatives all together. Go and look it up you ignorance human. Also, please state how labour caused the global crisis, it was dirty politics from conservatives in 2010.
    I didn't say they did cause the recession so your whole comment is pointless and I laugh at that.


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    (Original post by paul514)
    I didn't say they did cause the recession so your whole comment is pointless and I laugh at that.


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    Oh really? Then why did you say that labour will cause a recession for? The irony.
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    (Original post by Ekno)
    I aint into politics, but why is there a huge dislike for Corbyn?
    Brainwashed by David Cameron dirty politics and ignorance to socialism.
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    (Original post by ckfeister)
    Oh really? Then why did you say that labour will cause a recession for? The irony.
    I didn't, you might want to learn to read.

    The irony.


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    (Original post by paul514)
    I didn't, you might want to learn to read.

    The irony.


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    Nevermind I misunderstood. Also, labour may have a chance it'll just be diffcult.
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    (Original post by ckfeister)
    Nevermind I misunderstood. Also, labour may have a chance it'll just be diffcult.
    Zero chance without a recession


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    (Original post by paul514)
    Zero chance without a recession


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    Leaving EU could be a recession its 50/50 on staying or leaving. Although if Boris Johnson becomes tory leader probably not.
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    (Original post by ckfeister)
    Leaving EU could be a recession its 50/50 on staying or leaving. Although if Boris Johnson becomes tory leader probably not.
    Leaving the eu can't cause a recession


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    Luckily most British people can see that socialism encourages mediocrity, the welfare lifestyle and excessive political correctness and a lack of free speech.
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    (Original post by paul514)
    Leaving the eu can't cause a recession


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    Its very unknown what will happen, I'm in favour of leaving but I think there must be commitment to leave as wages and growth is very unknown when it will affect 50% of our trade, as well as Britain being a EU trade gate enterance.
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    (Original post by ckfeister)
    Its very unknown what will happen, I'm in favour of leaving but I think there must be commitment to leave as wages and growth is very unknown when it will affect 50% of our trade, as well as Britain being a EU trade gate enterance.
    It's actually in the 30's not 50's.

    There are studies on gdp and the eu and they clearly show that the most likely change is a 0.8% loss to a 0.6% gain.

    The economic arguments are a red herring.




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    I would only consider them if they got rid of Corbyn, and shifted more to the middle. Otherwise no, I'd vote Tory over them anyday.
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    Actually, the EU is a fair point. If things get really heated there might not be a Tory party next election.
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    (Original post by paul514)
    It's actually in the 30's not 50's.

    There are studies on gdp and the eu and they clearly show that the most likely change is a 0.8% loss to a 0.6% gain.

    The economic arguments are a red herring.




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    I don't think its that low. We do 50% of our trade with EU, its declining though think about 47.5% now.
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    (Original post by ckfeister)
    I don't think its that low. We do 50% of our trade with EU, its declining though think about 47.5% now.
    It was 45% and dropped into the 30's it been dropping for over a decade


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    (Original post by paul514)
    It was 45% and dropped into the 30's it been dropping for over a decade


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    Oh good, Britain always prepared unlike other European countries.
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    Some thoughts:

    If Corbyn was ousted as leader of Labour in 2017 then would this indicate that Old Labour within the Labour Party is dead, buried, finished, and never to return? There have been a large number of Old Labour types who believed during the Blair years that the NuLab problem wasn't Labour but Blair. They held the view that Blair was a rogue who worked his way to the top but he wouldn't last forever, so once he had gone then Labour could revert to its traditional values meaning that it was a waste of time and effort to establish another party to the left of Labour like Scargill and Galloway tried to do.

    If Corbyn decided to join the Green Party after being ousted as leader of Labour then would over 90% of his supporters follow him or would the continue to stick with Labour? Examples of such followers are the very poor who are battered with austerity, immigrants, the progressive left, and Muslims.
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    (Original post by JordanL_)
    No. I have a lot of respect for Corbyn, he's principled and wants to do what's right, but his views are naive and impractical. If Labour had a more moderate leader I might, because the Conservative government is destroying this country.

    It's scary that Labour have made themselves unelectable, because the Conservatives have no real opposition anymore.
    My opinion also.
 
 
 
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