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    All this talk about beer reminds me that the Green party manifesto pledged to support small pubs. I hope the House will support our Bill when it is put before the House.
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    (Original post by barnetlad)
    All this talk about beer reminds me that the Green party manifesto pledged to support small pubs. I hope the House will support our Bill when it is put before the House.
    If it's good, I absolutely will. The Socialists also have something planned so it would be good to be kept in the loop on what you're doing so we don't duplicate you.
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    It's good to see the Conservatives having a chance at leading a coalition again after so long.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    Saracen's Fez But you cannot deny I agreed to you I would whip my MPs to vote against something Labour did not like, or support something Labour wanted to push forward.
    You did indeed say that. I just wasn't buying the deal.
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    You did indeed say that. I just wasn't buying the deal.
    I hope the recent suggestion is more favourable when discussed because as you can see, I have nothing to lose working against the Conservatives.
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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    I originally wanted to stay out of this and let you deal with the mess you've made without further embarrassment but since you continue to lie and try to smear us, I'd like to ask whether your members are aware of the fact that you've pretty much single-handedly managed to destroy any chances of UKIP's involvement in a coalition government at least in the next year or two, or while you're their leader.

    We were your last ally—everyone I spoke to wouldn't touch UKIP with a barge pole and it was practically non-negotiable and largely due to your behaviour—and yet you decided to threaten us before we even formally approached you, then made some attempts to smear us by lying, and who knows what else…

    Congratulations, you've managed to completely isolate UKIP and turn everyone who was still willing to put up with your temper and shenanigans against you. I hope your members will be smarter than that if they ever want to make it into government, but even more importantly, taken seriously.
    We are all kept aware of the goings on within UKIP of the coalition negotiations!

    We could always think back, a year ago I believe [2 GE ago] when we tried to get a Con-Kip-Lib coalition; how desperate you were, and basically I'm sure we could relive some memories there!

    I would like to congratulate the rt hon man of being the leader of HM most Loyal opposition this incoming term!
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    It will not be a right-wing government, it will be a centrist government where the Conservatives leave all of their right-wing policies to the side to stop the Liberals leaving. I am surprised the Liberals are entering a government with a party that described them as shameless opportunists who are reluctantly being given the tools to enter government with the Conservatives using the Liberals; private messages prove that.

    Life_peer You are tagging people I have contacted over plans to stop you using the Liberals; it is in their hands. I will openly admit to working to crush a Tory-Liberal coalition before resigning from my position as UKIP leader when the results have been announced.
    1. How can you know about our potential policies? You're just shooting blanks and hoping that a roadkill appears in front of you.

    2. You are incorrectly presuming that everything I ever told you was true, which it definitely wasn't, mate.

    3. You are also incorrectly presuming that other party leaders and their colleagues are prepared to sacrifice their dignity by playing your dirty games of delusion.

    The readiness… almost eagerness of your party to try to block policies which are in line with yours just because your pride's been hurt or whatever is frankly disgusting and completely proves the point many made a couple of months ago that you're taking this far too seriously.

    I thank Saracen's Fez for not debasing himself to your level.

    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    I would have had much more reason to be worried about the Tories going with UKIP, but luckily you're the leader.
    BOOM! :laugh:
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    Somebody's changed his tune on the Liberals.



    Total rubbish. Nigel proposed it to us but I made it very clear that we would vote on an item-by-item basis as we do on opposing items normally.
    Thank you for confirming what we already knew
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    (Original post by adam9317)
    We are all kept aware of the goings on within UKIP of the coalition negotiations!

    We could always think back, a year ago I believe [2 GE ago] when we tried to get a Con-Kip-Lib coalition; how desperate you were, and basically I'm sure we could relive some memories there!

    I would like to congratulate the rt hon man of being the leader of HM most Loyal opposition this incoming term!
    I negotiated that term and Life_peer wasn't desperate...
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    (Original post by adam9317)
    I would like to congratulate the rt hon man of being the leader of HM most Loyal opposition this incoming term!
    Are you telling me that Labour are desperate enough to go into government that they're going into government with you? I'm shocked.
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    I negotiated that term and Life_peer wasn't desperate...
    To the libs my friend, he appeared calm; but to use, he was desperate- and lets just say, desperate to get the Libs on board at all costs!

    However I will say no more on the issue and take any more discussions to the bar!
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Are you telling me that Labour are desperate enough to go into government that they're going into government with you? I'm shocked.
    Labour are in a very interesting position in regards to their share of the seats; but it is upto them; what I'm saying is the conservatives aren't going the right way to get into govt!
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    (Original post by Airmed)
    I negotiated that term and Life_peer wasn't desperate...
    I think adam9317 is referring to another situation where Life_peer sent a message two hours before the deadline for coalition proposals begging Adam to accept a deal put forward.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Are you telling me that Labour are desperate enough to go into government that they're going into government with you? I'm shocked.
    UKIP will not enter government with Labour, however, I am willing to play politics to help Labour enter government to lead a left-wing coalition that does not involve UKIP.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    I think adam9317 is referring to another situation where Life_peer sent a message two hours before the deadline for coalition proposals begging Adam to accept a deal put forward.
    That is what I am referring to; the situation where he tried to make UKIP the worse party in the deal!
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    (Original post by adam9317)
    Labour are in a very interesting position in regards to their share of the seats; but it is upto them; what I'm saying is the conservatives aren't going the right way to get into govt!
    I'll take that as a no then, unless you too have a crystal ball that shows you what you want to believe showing you that Con-lib will fail to form
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    might want to check your maths

    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    UKIP will not enter government with Labour, however, I am willing to play politics to help Labour enter government to lead a left-wing coalition that does not involve UKIP.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    might want to check your maths
    I did not think I would have to explain the rules to you but UKIP could submit a coalition with Labour, the Greens, and Socialists in, but when Ray announces the coalition results UKIP will leave straight away. As the rules of the game mean a MoNC will be needed to remove the remaining parties from government who now form a smaller coalition, UKIP will support the government to keep the Labour-Green-Socialist coalition in government. The simple rule that one party leaving a coalition does not automatically trigger new coalition discussions mean UKIP can join a coalition for minutes to use the rules to the favour of the left-wing. The fate of a Conservative-Liberal coalition is in the hands of the left-wing parties who can choose to end all hope of the Conservative-Liberal coalition by agreeing to the plan Unown Uzer thought of.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    I did not think I would have to explain the rules to you but UKIP could submit a coalition with Labour, the Greens, and Socialists in, but when Ray announces the coalition results UKIP will leave straight away. As the rules of the game mean a MoNC will be needed to remove the remaining parties from government who now form a smaller coalition, UKIP will support the government to keep the Labour-Green-Socialist coalition in government. The simple rule that one party leaving a coalition does not automatically trigger new coalition discussions mean UKIP can join a coalition for minutes to use the rules to the favour of the left-wing. The fate of a Conservative-Liberal coalition is in the hands of the left-wing parties who can choose to end all hope of the Conservative-Liberal coalition by agreeing to the plan Unown Uzer thought of.
    Think about the piles of **** we have against you and some of your members before you continue (though I don't expect the other parties to back this insanity). Some of you might get banned…
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    I did not think I would have to explain the rules to you but UKIP could submit a coalition with Labour, the Greens, and Socialists in, but when Ray announces the coalition results UKIP will leave straight away. As the rules of the game mean a MoNC will be needed to remove the remaining parties from government who now form a smaller coalition, UKIP will support the government to keep the Labour-Green-Socialist coalition in government. The simple rule that one party leaving a coalition does not automatically trigger new coalition discussions mean UKIP can join a coalition for minutes to use the rules to the favour of the left-wing. The fate of a Conservative-Liberal coalition is in the hands of the left-wing parties who can choose to end all hope of the Conservative-Liberal coalition by agreeing to the plan Unown Uzer thought of.
    keep on digging
 
 
 
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