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    (Original post by LBMD)
    Its reassuring to know that you will get lots of support and training. Kezxo can you advise what the typical training duration for one of these roles looks like? I.E 3 6 9 12 months? Also, how many exams are there roughly during this period and what format are they in? I.e written, report multiple choice etc.
    The training differs per role and tax head. Typically at the moment there is 6 months training then support while training and being mentored in the role. Not sure what exams are being taken currently but mine were a mix of written and multiple choice. My training was longer as well as its now a different training course. There will be skills assessment as well.
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    (Original post by kezxo)
    The training differs per role and tax head. Typically at the moment there is 6 months training then support while training and being mentored in the role. Not sure what exams are being taken currently but mine were a mix of written and multiple choice. My training was longer as well as its now a different training course. There will be skills assessment as well.
    Obviously all the areas are challenging but would I be right in saying VAT is the most challenging field to be in? That seems to the consensus from people


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    (Original post by Jamz115)
    Obviously all the areas are challenging but would I be right in saying VAT is the most challenging field to be in? That seems to the consensus from people


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    Not necessarily. I've completed a lot of training VAT included and each tax has its own challenges it also depends on which part of the department you're working in and what cases you have and a million and one other things. I would say all our work can be challenging but again in different ways.
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    (Original post by kezxo)
    Not necessarily. I've completed a lot of training VAT included and each tax has its own challenges it also depends on which part of the department you're working in and what cases you have and a million and one other things. I would say all our work can be challenging but again in different ways.
    Yea well another guy in the Belfast office has sorts explained the training etc and it has settled my concerns a bit. You do seem to get a good deal of support


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    Anyone received any further information?

    It will be 6 weeks on Friday since I got the provisional offer(12th August), filled in the initial next steps, then completed the health declaration and the next steps for DBS on the 11th September.

    I did get a generic receipt for the health declaration, but nothing since.

    Anyone any different?
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    (Original post by PapaSmurf46)
    Anyone received any further information?

    It will be 6 weeks on Friday since I got the provisional offer(12th August), filled in the initial next steps, then completed the health declaration and the next steps for DBS on the 11th September.

    I did get a generic receipt for the health declaration, but nothing since.

    Anyone any different?
    Sounds like you are further forward at least than me. Only had my ID checked at the Lisburn office last week. Nothing mentioned of a health declaration or anything else. Nothing heard from DBS either.

    How did you get the Health forms or contact from DBS?
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    (Original post by Cass1988)
    Sounds like you are further forward at least than me. Only had my ID checked at the Lisburn office last week. Nothing mentioned of a health declaration or anything else. Nothing heard from DBS either.

    How did you get the Health forms or contact from DBS?
    I got an email on the 11th September asking me to fill it in, and it was attached to the email, and there was a new next steps on the website for the DBS check.

    I had my ID checked at interview, so maybe your further email is still to come.
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    (Original post by Jamz115)
    Not sure. I had already all that done at interview but I may withdraw from the process because it seems the whole thing has been misleading. Asking for GCSE Maths Grade C when it appears you will actually be doing A Level Maths standard stuff . People need to be very sure about it before they commit!


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    I got a C in GCSE Maths and I'm doing just fine.*
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    (Original post by Mega0448)
    I got a C in GCSE Maths and I'm doing just fine.*
    Yes I've been reassure with the training etc so I'm more confident now about that side of things


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    (Original post by Jamz115)
    Yes I've been reassure with the training etc so I'm more confident now about that side of things


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    Glad you're more confident now! Should reassure you a bit more! You'll be fine, we all had to start somewhere and I have to say I work with some really fab people.
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    (Original post by kezxo)
    Glad you're more confident now! Should reassure you a bit more! You'll be fine, we all had to start somewhere and I have to say I work with some really fab people.
    How long do these pre-employment checks take? How is the employment history checked? Someone says they don't use referees but surely HMRC can't go rooting through your PAYE details without your consent - even when the employer is them surely the same law applies


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    Question time. I was offered provisional Officer post on the back of the TSP2016 campaign, which required 2.2 degree or higher. The current HO trawl only requires 2 X A levels or equivalent. Why then do those offers from TSP at Officer level still need degree level qualifications when the HO jobs only require 2 X A levels, seems a bit odd?

    Got a call from Moira House tonight and heading to Lisburn Wednesday with proof of i.d. and qualifications, thank goodness things are finally moving along 😀
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    (Original post by MurphysLaw2471)
    Question time. I was offered provisional Officer post on the back of the TSP2016 campaign, which required 2.2 degree or higher. The current HO trawl only requires 2 X A levels or equivalent. Why then do those offers from TSP at Officer level still need degree level qualifications when the HO jobs only require 2 X A levels, seems a bit odd?

    Got a call from Moira House tonight and heading to Lisburn Wednesday with proof of i.d. and qualifications, thank goodness things are finally moving along 😀
    You aren't getting the job you applied for so you don't actually need the degree level for Band EO. The job you're offered off the back of that (if you didn't reach assessment centre) is based on your scoring at test level. Really you're getting a job from your test levels with no interviews whereas internal applicants have 2 or more compence based application form and/or interview for EO.
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    (Original post by Jamz115)
    How long do these pre-employment checks take? How is the employment history checked? Someone says they don't use referees but surely HMRC can't go rooting through your PAYE details without your consent - even when the employer is them surely the same law applies


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    When you compete your pre employment forms and you sign them it gives HMRC permission to check your job history and references to your PAYE record, it actually states it on the page you complete. We may check the information you provided with PAYE or other sources to confirm your identity and references - it's to that effect. Pre employment checks can take a minimum of 20 days, that's including security and references. They also have to account for where each person is needed and where they have to be placed, when you have over 1000 people to sift through in different cities across the UK it can take some time.
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    (Original post by kezxo)
    When you compete your pre employment forms and you sign them it gives HMRC permission to check your job history and references to your PAYE record, it actually states it on the page you complete. We may check the information you provided with PAYE or other sources to confirm your identity and references - it's to that effect. Pre employment checks can take a minimum of 20 days, that's including security and references. They also have to account for where each person is needed and where they have to be placed, when you have over 1000 people to sift through in different cities across the UK it can take some time.
    I see so it checks the dates you have written correspond with the dates on record with PAYE


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    (Original post by Jamz115)
    I see so it checks the dates you have written correspond with the dates on record with PAYE

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    I'm not entirely sure what they check but imagine dates, workplace etc. It would CSR or the job holder who does that and it's usually staff with other roles who are running other recruitment campaigns. There's a lot of other recruitment that you wouldn't see online as you're not an employee. So while you're all waiting for offers there's an internal campaign happening. I imagine what's going on is that they are putting the internal staff into post first, the ones that are experienced and don't need trained then fitting in trainees around them. There wouldn't be any point in putting 10 new trainees into a team with no experienced staff as there wouldn't be anyone to mentor them.
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    (Original post by kezxo)
    You aren't getting the job you applied for so you don't actually need the degree level for Band EO. The job you're offered off the back of that (if you didn't reach assessment centre) is based on your scoring at test level. Really you're getting a job from your test levels with no interviews whereas internal applicants have 2 or more compence based application form and/or interview for EO.
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    Appreciated, just seems strange that CSR/1667/16 HMRC Band O Tax Professional Programme 2016 still asks for degree at O level ........wonder if I'd still get a formal offer if I just showed A level quals, lol? After all, the job is offered on the basis of test results from TSP. I'm just glad that things are finally moving. Thanks for the clarification, much appreciated
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    (Original post by MurphysLaw2471)
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    Appreciated, just seems strange that CSR/1667/16 HMRC Band O Tax Professional Programme 2016 still asks for degree at O level ........wonder if I'd still get a formal offer if I just showed A level quals, lol? After all, the job is offered on the basis of test results from TSP. I'm just glad that things are finally moving. Thanks for the clarification, much appreciated
    They're so strict so probably not. I don't recognise that Band O programme, is that what's in your email? As far as I know this is the first year they've ever offered jobs off the TSP with no interview/assessment centre at band O level. Usually they wait until the TSP assessment centre and offer those who don't meet criteria HEO jobs. So it's a new thing but probably won't accept A Level certs as you've stated degree level.

    Apologies for the mis-spelling and typos it's been a long day!
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    (Original post by kezxo)
    They're so strict so probably not. I don't recognise that Band O programme, is that what's in your email? As far as I know this is the first year they've ever offered jobs off the TSP with no interview/assessment centre at band O level. Usually they wait until the TSP assessment centre and offer those who don't meet criteria HEO jobs. So it's a new thing but probably won't accept A Level certs as you've stated degree level.

    Apologies for the mis-spelling and typos it's been a long day!
    Oh dear why a long day lol


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    (Original post by PapaSmurf46)
    Anyone received any further information?

    It will be 6 weeks on Friday since I got the provisional offer(12th August), filled in the initial next steps, then completed the health declaration and the next steps for DBS on the 11th September.

    I did get a generic receipt for the health declaration, but nothing since.

    Anyone any different?
    I'm the same. Getting a bit fed up because you can't really put your heart and soul into your current job when your head is turned by another offer. Whole thing isn't done properly. People should not get offers until they do these checks


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