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    (Original post by DauntlessOne)
    Why not vote UKIP, they have replaced Labour, as the people's party and the working class party. Due to Blair (Iraq invasion for personal gains), Brown (useless jobsworth), Milliband (Just plain ridiculous) and Comrade Corbyn (Makes Karl Marxs look right-wing), Labour is finished. There are no reputable Labour MPs left, that can simultaneously unite the party and listen to the voters.

    I myself would never vote Tory, based on the fact that, they are nothing more then greedy businessmen, self concerned and represent a social class that only 5% of the population are apart of. I would strongly advice you all to look past the media's prejudice against UKIP and strongly consider voting for them.
    Agreed. I think I will be voting UKIP.

    I supported Labour at last year's general election under Miliband as although they were evidently more left wing than New Labour had been, their policies were still centrist enough for my liking and many of the shadow cabinet were indeed Brownites/Blairites who had previously been cabinet ministers. A lot of people said that the centrist approach should not be reverted back to because it lost Labour 2 general elections but in fact it was the half hearted campaigning and heavy reliance on opinion polls that actually dragged the party into opposition on both occasions as well as the fact that voters don't trust them anymore on immigration or the economy. My views are quite staunchly within the Blairite camp in regards to health, education but especially on stressing the importance of market based economics. I think the Third Way had a lot of improvements that could have been made to it as a working ideology but it did deliver a good balance of domestic policies and economic policies as well as the longest period of Labour government in history. With Corbyn and McDonnell now at the helm the party has gone much further left into roughly the same era and ideas as Michael Foot in the early 1980s. Yes Corbyn has been a breath of fresh air and is perhaps somewhat of a likeable character, he fails to actually provide an effective opposition especially in his approach that austerity is the evil to blame for everything and a desire to close the Blair legacy based solely on his disapproval of Iraq (I'm not supporting Iraq however). His plans for nuclear disarmament, renationalisation of key industries amongst other policies to be a 'people's politician' make him and Labour in general only targeting certain sections of society and shunning wealth creators as opposed to supporting them. In a world of war and conflict, Corbyn seems weak and merely dependent on hard socialist paths to achieve plausible outcomes on which the country will never support a man who would compromise on Britain's security.I'm still a Labour member but I've switched my support over to the Tories in the past six months plainly over the change of leadership. The centre ground for the time being stays within Conservative hands and despite many terrible u-turns and mistakes made in Cameron's second administration, the party gives the impression of both being in power and in government. It has credible policies and agendas which reach out to sizeable amounts of the British population. With the new PM Theresa May the party looks to have moved on from its differences and is now focused on governing the country sensibly and working out workable arrangements with other countries in the wake of Brexit to make it a success rather than a negative outcome for the UK and the world as a whole. I do disagree however that the budget surplus target and the immigration targets should be abandoned as Hammond and Rudd have already done over the past few weeks as these were issues upon which the Tories were elected upon. For Labour to win a majority in 2020 will be near to impossible. The SNP dominance north of the border means that the party cannot rely on Scottish support as in the past to win seats in the hopes of entering government. The party's bitter infighting, hard left stance and cold shoulder to businesses mean that winning over 'Middle England' will be an act unlikely to be pulled of successfully as was done in the landslides of 1997 and 2001 by extending its reach beyond it's core support base. Its working class base had largely been wooed by UKIP and this threat was shown by the number of Labour heartlands who voted to leave the EU in the referendum just over a month ago as well as the party coming second last year in many traditional Labour constituencies. Boundary changes in 2018 will reduce the number of Commons seats from 650 to 600 in favour of the Conservatives rather than Labour as Tory constituencies tend to cover larger more rural areas as opposed to inner cities and towns which could be integrated into one. In the Labour leadership contest I will be supporting Owen Smith as I believe he is a safer pair of hands than Corbyn on a variety of issues and although left wing, he can at least as leader help Labour to gain seats rather than lose key marginal as was done in 2010 and 2015 as well as his plausible £200bn New Deal proposal for public services which would also be supported by a 'wealth tax' which could work if implemented correctly but I'm more in favour of a windfall levy as was done on privatised companies in 1997. I see myself overwhelmingly voting Conservative in May 2020 as I believe Labour has no credible policies or unity that would benefit the UK were it to form the next government whilst the Conservatives are getting on the work and supporting businesses and companies in their strife following Brexit. I would change my mind only if Labour shows it can understand middle class and business interests as well as a leader that can tackle issues like a prime minister in waiting whilst commanding a shadow cabinet that scrutinises the Tories like a government in waiting whilst also recognising the past achievements that New Labour implemented to aid the most underprivileged as well as captaining a strong economy less reliant on strong borrowing and taxation designed indirectly as opposed to upfront.
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