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    Wow, some of you guys make me feel so lucky to have a supportive family. :cry2:

    If I go to uni, my mum would tell all her friends and relatives. She just wants me to do whatever makes me happy. My dad will be supportive as well, but not as emotional as my mum would be. He said he would drive me if I get into my firm choice uni, which takes several hours to drive there. And he works full-time.

    I'll be applying next year for a STEM course. Anxious to get year 12 stuff out the way!
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    Angry Redhead - we meet again! You're doing a degree in chemistry and she says that it's a waste of time..? Riiiiight
    Ikr? The irony is that she did a theology degree and hasn't done a formal course on science in her life and she thinks she knows everything about it
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    It's very, like very difficult to support yourself financially if you have little to no support e.g. family or a job.

    Uni is the time when 18-24 are most socially active; they will go out and spend money on food, nights out, cinema, etc etc. It's a social institution where you need to have money.

    It also get's a lot harder if you wish to look for a house because some of the deposits could take a huge chunk out of your wallet if you have no way of supplementing that money back.

    If you can budget right, then you'll be OK. But it will be very difficult, especially if you want to join societies that often go out for their meetings and so forth.

    I would say think very carefully and try, try very hard to get a job because i've been in financial difficulty (I have a supportive parent [we're just estranged]) and it was horrendous feeling whilst you have got to worry about studying, friendships, living, flatmates, etc. It gets very heavy and no matter what age you are, life does not prepare you for debt (that you can't pay back when the collectors come knocking). I also advise NOT to take out a student bank loan if you can't pay it back within 12 months.
    Yeah. I have huge respect for people who get through uni by themselves.

    One of my friends actually got 2 sugar daddies because her financial position is so dire. She's going to Nottingham next year because she's going to be estranged from her parents (who sound so much worse than mine). While I personally don't think I'd do it at all even though I support her fully, I'd rather do two part time jobs or something.
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    (Original post by The Empire Odyssey)
    Exactly. My uni rent was £125 a week and my house this Sept is a 12 month contract for £104 a week, excluding bills.

    I had money just about enough. But because I needed to put a deposit down on my house in Jan, it would have left me in the minus. So I had to ask for financial aid from my uni.
    However, £70 is pretty doable in my own experience. I've never had to spend that much unless I would be visiting friends or travelling home (on top of weekly shops and things).

    Don't even get me started on course book materials if you do something like English, Law or Medicine! Uni text books are horrendously expensive.

    PS: Sorry if I'm hijacking your thread!

    No, I totally agree! The costs are horrendous. Luckily they supply chem ones 😅 Student finance are taking the piss with me so I may have to ask for financial aid, have to wait 6 more weeks for a decision! Despite sending it off on the first day when applications opened. Being foreign, eh?

    I also meant £30 left over after the £70 spent ;-) that's not doable.. Not if you have to take a bus or want to buy stationary or anything other than cheap food
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    Yeah. I have huge respect for people who get through uni by themselves.

    One of my friends actually got 2 sugar daddies because her financial position is so dire. She's going to Nottingham next year because she's going to be estranged from her parents (who sound so much worse than mine). While I personally don't think I'd do it at all even though I support her fully, I'd rather do two part time jobs or something.
    Yeah same. I have a uni friend who didn't wanna go back home because his parents were going through a very sour and blood-thirsty divorce. So horrible to hear.

    And oh, how adventurous for her! Is she going to get more sugar daddies in Nottingham?

    Well, she is a part-time lover, so that is a job within it's own right! As long as she's safe and all, I personally don't see it as a problem. Just imagine being old and lonely. Of course you'll be willing to pay to feel wanted! It's sad really. But she's gotta hustling though; she gotta make the money, hunny! :flutter:
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    That's awful Can I ask what's their reasoning for not giving a penny to find your studies?
    My mother.. I think that there is something mentally wrong with her. She's very bitter and not animated to do anything which will aid me in moving out. She never finished anything, which included raising me and her own education
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    (Original post by 97Y)
    No, I totally agree! The costs are horrendous. Luckily they supply chem ones 😅 Student finance are taking the piss with me so I may have to ask for financial aid, have to wait 6 more weeks for a decision! Despite sending it off on the first day when applications opened. Being foreign, eh?

    I also meant £30 left over after the £70 spent ;-) that's not doable.. Not if you have to take a bus or want to buy stationary or anything other than cheap food
    Yeah Student Finance isn't much!

    Yeah I had to do that! I applied for £900 and my uni gave me £1200. I also got told they had money left over and gave me £400! I'm trying SO hard not to spend it but I keep eyeing up a new camera, an electric toothbrush, a blender, an electric shaver, and some new books! But it's soooo hard!

    £30 a week? Oh that's doable (without shopping and if you cant the bus of course). It would do wonders at Poundland, B&M, Aldi/Lydl and Iceland though.
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    Ikr? The irony is that she did a theology degree and hasn't done a formal course on science in her life and she thinks she knows everything about it
    You're obviously doing far better and know exactly what you're doing
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    (Original post by The Empire Odyssey)
    Yeah same. I have a uni friend who didn't wanna go back home because his parents were going through a very sour and blood-thirsty divorce. So horrible to hear.

    And oh, how adventurous for her! Is she going to get more sugar daddies in Nottingham?

    Well, she is a part-time lover, so that is a job within it's own right! As long as she's safe and all, I personally don't see it as a problem. Just imagine being old and lonely. Of course you'll be willing to pay to feel wanted! It's sad really. But she's gotta hustling though; she gotta make the money, hunny! :flutter:
    In my friend's case, her dad's got a criminal record and her mum's an alcoholic. None of them support her decision to go to university so she's decided to just get sugar daddies to help fund her (along with her student loans). She's saved up enough to last a few months but she has a year to go so she can make more. She hasn't spent a single penny on fancy designer stuff.

    I fully support her. She texts me whenever she has an appointment and stuff so I know she's ok. She's actually considering applying for KCL this year to see if she can get in because both of her sugar daddies are based in London.

    She's got that "I'll do what I have to do to get the degree I want." kind of attitude which is inspiring asf.
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    In my friend's case, her dad's got a criminal record and her mum's an alcoholic. None of them support her decision to go to university so she's decided to just get sugar daddies to help fund her (along with her student loans). She's saved up enough to last a few months but she has a year to go so she can make more. She hasn't spent a single penny on fancy designer stuff.

    I fully support her. She texts me whenever she has an appointment and stuff so I know she's ok. She's actually considering applying for KCL this year to see if she can get in because both of her sugar daddies are based in London.

    She's got that "I'll do what I have to do to get the degree I want." kind of attitude which is inspiring asf.
    Oh gosh, that must be truly horrible home life, bless her. She's a better woman than I am - I'd have spent that dolla!

    Oh, what year is she in?

    Yeah, strong women are inspiring for sure. She'll do whatever it takes and good for her. It's not about where you come from, or how you got there - but what you do with that after is important. And clearly, she wants to be something better in the future, so good for her!
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    Oh gosh, that must be truly horrible home life, bless her. She's a better woman than I am - I'd have spent that dolla!

    Oh, what year is she in?

    Yeah, strong women are inspiring for sure. She'll do whatever it takes and good for her. It's not about where you come from, or how you got there - but what you do with that after is important. And clearly, she wants to be something better in the future, so good for her!
    Same! She's so disciplined tbh.

    She's just finished Year 13 but is taking a gap year. She's going to be juggling a part time job and stuff.
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    Ultimately I guess it's your parents choice what they spend their money on and they have no legal obligation to look after you after the age of 18 but it seems so unfair that there are so many students going to uni with the maximum loan, still receiving money off parents, not working while at uni and going out 24/7 (which seems to have been a massive majority of the people I know who went tbh). Then there's the people who've worked for years with no support off parents who are stigmatised purely for their parents financial situation, estrangement may as well be impossible to claim given how much evidence you need to provide and how late in the year student finance manage to actually do their job and put your grant through. IMO estrangement claims need to be seriously improved and based upon how much your parents are committed to helping you out. Oh and it's a joke that you're not considered a mature student until your 24?! So for someone going to uni at 21 having moved out 2 years ago but not being financially independent for three years, they're considered to be still dependent on their parents income until they're 24?!
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    Explain the situation to your tutor (you have to be honest, it's a bit crap telling them but you'd be surprised how many academics had crappy parents) and she'll write a letter to Student Finance confirming your status as 'estranged from parents'
    Thanks for replying to me.

    I told my college tutor, so I'll just have to tell my tutor at uni right?
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    Thanks for replying to me.

    I told my college tutor, so I'll just have to tell my tutor at uni right?
    Yes, if you just explain the situation to her and then they'll take it from there. Just very important to be honest; I've found so many people actually willing to help its amazing. People understand more than they let on.
    Let me know how you get on! I'll have the same chat when I finally know where I'm going!
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    I'm starting uni as a mature student this September, my dad doesn't support my decision at all. His new wife just tells me to stop wasting my time and get a job, at my age its too late for education.

    Its been made clear that I won't get any financial help from him at all, which if I am honest I am upset about but doesn't completely bother me.

    What bothers me more is the fact that I won't get any emotional support at all from my family, I have my boyfriend, my best friend and her boyfriend giving me all the support for the next three years.

    I have already said if my dad can't be proud of me for going to uni then he can't be proud of me when I graduate and want to be there to see that happen
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    Thank you for your little nugget of hope. How are your studies now?
    I hope to 'cut the cord' or so to speak when I move out so I can start fresh
    The irony of the situation is that had I gone to university back then, I would have paid £3k a year and gotten most of my living fees covered by grants (I'd have to have loaned about £3k a year to cover living costs).

    Now I'll be loaning £18k a year! Triple, basically.

    But hey ho, that's life.

    So, I'm starting in a month, more than excited, I've been waiting for this for about a decade.

    I have some savings, my own place, a lovely environment and some good people to support me.

    When I was 18 I had nothing except good grades, a damaged frame of mind and the will to succeed.

    I wish you all the best. It won't be easy, the hardest part will be overcoming the natural human urge to compare yourselves to others and their backgrounds... DON'T DO THIS.

    You will be different to the majority of people you meet at university.

    But you are stronger than most of them could imagine.
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    I kinda get where your coming from and i suppose its fairly easy if your coming from a town or place where jobs are available and you have a place to stay. However what your missing is a lot of us hit 18 ans have to leave home and get a job and pay our bills which leaves little money to save for uni, a lot of us also have no work experience and very few job openings for people of our age.

    I know for me personally i was chucked out on my 18th and told to find somewhere to live, which meant saving for uni wasnt an option. Jobs are scarce in a small village like mine which left my only option to go uni now and hope for the best in the future.

    Its not as simple for all of us to take a year out and get a job. If our parents arnt supporting us at uni its highly doubtful they will support us in any way which means its fairly difficult for us to get any sort of footing in.life without a degree.
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    (Original post by super_kawaii)
    Once you're at uni you don't have to go home-work full time over the holidays and make sure your housing contract for 2nd and subsequent years starts as soon as your previous contract ends so you can easily move your stuff directly between your houses. This, on top of an interest free overdraft can help you remain independent from your parents.

    I know this may sound harsh, but it sounds like your parents are very toxic, and imho it would be best if you go complete no contact once you start uni, so you can be happy.
    You still have to pay it back and usually you have to pay it back very quickly.
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    You still have to pay it back and usually you have to pay it back very quickly.
    They give you two months after you finish uni at least before they change the terms of your overdraft. Enough time to work and get out of it
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    (Original post by super_kawaii)
    They give you two months after you finish uni at least before they change the terms of your overdraft. Enough time to work and get out of it
    Not with me. HSBC wanted their money back within a year of opening up my student bank account.

    Defo wouldn't suggest to anyone who has financial difficulty to get one as banks expect you to constantly put money in and pay off the account very quickly. Or, at least HSBC does.
 
 
 
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