When will the religious people realize there is NO afterlife ?

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    (Original post by saran23)
    Yes, but you still have no evidence to disprove the existence of god. I suggest you better start working on an "empirical" equipment to disprove the existence of God to justify your claim.

    Your strong opinions are clouding your judgement whether or not the existence of God has been disproved.
    There doesn't need to be evidence disproving a general deity, it is an unfalsifiable claim. The onus/burden of proof is on YOU and other theists to prove your particular version of God exists, not on sceptics to disprove it.
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    (Original post by mil88)
    And if I outplay such a person, then what does that make me?
    A jest and a liar.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    There doesn't need to be evidence disproving a general deity, it is an unfalsifiable claim. The onus/burden of proof is on YOU and other theists to prove your particular version of God exists, not on sceptics to disprove it.
    As a universal theist I believe that there are many evidences that hundreds of civilisations have provided over the course of history. We theist's call them miracles. Even I as a theist don't believe in all of the recorded miracles but I do believe in most of them. So it seems that people like you have a very long list of evidences to falsify . In our opinion, the evidences is there!
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    (Original post by saran23)
    As an universal theist(I am a Hindu) there are many evidences that hundreds of civilisations have provided over the history of humanity. We theist's call them miracles. Even I as a theist don't believe in all of the recorded miracles but I do believe in most of them. So it seems that people like you have a very long list of evidences to falsify . In our opinion, the evidences is there!
    There are no miracles that have been independently, objectively and scientifically verified I'm afraid so that's not evidence.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    There are no miracles that have been independently, objectively and scientifically verified I'm afraid so that's not evidence.
    The material has been provided by us believers. To us the miracles are perfectly valid.

    PS. Let us just agree to disagree. This debate has been going on for thousands of years before this thread and it is not going to be solved now.
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    (Original post by saran23)
    The material has been provided by us believers. To us the miracles are perfectly valid.

    PS. Let us just agree to disagree. This debate has been going on for thousands of years before this thread and it is not going to be solved now.
    You're question begging. Of course as a believer you're going to believe they happened, doesn't mean the evidence is actually there though. In fact, it most certainly isn't, no one can show a miracle actually happened.
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    But how do you know ? How do you know that you're certain? You don't. You're basing that off of your own opinion and your own faith in atheism as well as the believers of Christ base their opinion in their faith. You're acting like what you're saying is completely fact but how do you know? You and I are both alive and not currently experiencing the "after life". There might be afterlife and there might not be an afterlife. You have to be dead to figure that out nor I am not wishing death upon you.

    How can you declare that there is no afterlife when you're not dead to know whether an afterlife even exists?

    No offence but you come across a little ignorant and close minded regarding this topic by just declaring there is no after life.
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    (Original post by Carthaginian)
    A jest and a liar.
    Honesty is a virtue possessed by the minority.

    The irony is evidently strong here.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    You're question begging. Of course as a believer you're going to believe they happened, doesn't mean the evidence is actually there though. In fact, it most certainly isn't, no one can show a miracle actually happened.
    Ok, I'll give you an example. In Hinduism, Shakti is the goddess of empowerment and is the primordial cosmic energy and represents the dynamic forces that are thought to move through the entire universe. I believe that she is the energy you see everywhere. The energy from the burning stars we see powering all lives that you see on earth(my personal belief). So my evidence is all around you, the cosmic energy that we are surrounded by. The energy that gave me the blessing to allow me to rise from the ground and shape me into a human being.

    Isn't this for you evidence?
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    (Original post by saran23)
    Ok, I'll give you an example. In Hinduism, Shakti is the goddess of empowerment and is the primordial cosmic energy and represents the dynamic forces that are thought to move through the entire universe. I believe that she is the energy you see everywhere. The energy from the burning stars we see powering all lives that you see on earth(my personal belief). So my evidence is all around you, the cosmic energy that we are surrounded by. The energy that gave me the blessing to allow me to rise from the ground and shape me into a human being.

    Isn't this evidence?
    This isn't evidence because you are making an assumption that the energy is God without proving it. It is an unfounded assumption, nothing more.
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    I don't know why you think your opinion is important to religious people. I don't know why you think you're worthy to comment on the existence of God, when you're just one person in the history of civilisation. I do forgive your mother for raising you as an arrogant, obnoxious **** though. She should have taught you to respect other people's beliefs and opinions, but I guess you don't listen to your mother. How sad.
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    (Original post by mil88)
    Honesty is a virtue possessed by the minority.

    The irony is evidently strong here.
    Honesty is a quality you don't have.
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    (Original post by Carthaginian)
    Honesty is a quality you don't have.
    If you are wrong, may you be forgiven.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    This isn't evidence because you are making an assumption that the energy is God without proving it. It is an unfounded assumption, nothing more.
    Energy was only discovered in the late 18th century. Shakti has been our deity for millennia's. My personal opinion is that science has helped my community further establish our beliefs. We did not derive our deities on scientific grounds.
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    (Original post by saran23)
    Energy was only discovered in the late 18th century. Shakti has been our deity for millennia's. My personal opinion is that science has helped my community further establish our beliefs. We did not derive our deities on scientific grounds.
    Energy wasn't discovered in the late 18th century, people have known about energy (fire, heat, hydrothermal etc) for millennia.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    Energy wasn't discovered in the late 18th century, people have known about energy (fire, heat, hydrothermal etc.) for millennia.
    Of course they have seen fire and heat etc. But the concept of energy and the law's of conservations were only derived recently. The earliest anyone came to describe energy was about 4th century BC but in Hinduism our deity has been worshipped earlier than this date.
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    (Original post by scaredofdeath)
    There is NO life after death.
    We are our bodies , more precisely our brains.
    There is no such thing as a "soul".
    There is no such thing as "heaven" " hell" .
    These are all inventions of the religious people.
    No one is going to reborn , we only live once.
    Prove it

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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    Energy wasn't discovered in the late 18th century, people have known about energy (fire, heat, hydrothermal etc) for millennia.
    I have enjoyed this little debate and though we have different beliefs over the existence of God, I wholeheartedly appreciate and respect your firm standing on your beliefs.

    Goodbye
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    Fruitless. Can't cure those that don't want to be cured.
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    forget about your imaginary friends and kys
 
 
 
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