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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    Pareto efficiency is not concerned with the use of resources per se but as Pareto efficiency occurs on a PPF, or a contract curve it does not need to be said resources should be used. What you describe is more allocative efficiency where resources are distributed to make goods depending on the tastes of consumers. Returning to my main point, it is wrong to start claiming some economics is centre-ground, or sensible misses the point of what economics is diluting it with politics.
    Indeed, but this is missing the point of my post. You stated that it is sensible, rational, and acceptable by the definition of economics, but if it cannot fully conform with the definition because of an alternative and well-accepted interpretation of efficiency, the definition of economics does not fully support the notion that pareto optimality is considered sensible, rational and acceptable.

    It's an interesting debate on semantics if nothing else.
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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    Had circumstances not changed (which they did), then I would have done what I said.
    It changed when you were not getting yoir own way
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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    So much PRSOM.
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    I've been pondering a while about how I am going to respond. I have seen a lot of speeches in my time, and don't think anyone has spoken more heartfelt words so in response to the recent events that have taken hold...

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    I did not have sexual relations with that woman


    #peaceout

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    (Original post by Lime-man)
    I've been pondering a while about how I am going to respond. I have seen a lot of speeches in my time, and don't think anyone has spoken more heartfelt words so in response to the recent events that have taken hold...

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    I did not have sexual relations with that woman


    #peaceout

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    oh my god
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    Right. Time for some questions. I have to say, I think all the manifestos look great.

    Jammy Duel - your manifesto is the hardest to read but the background is strangely hypnotic. Your activity in the MHoC is commendable and I admire your bravery to stand against your own party. One thing that it is rather irritating in your manifesto however are the typos (fiarer and faieer). Some quite funky spellings going on there. Anyway, I have some questions:

    1) How will you support freedom of speech?
    2) What disincentives would you use to deter people from taking dangeous substances?
    3) How will you support the police and military?
    4) Why have you decided to stand against your own party?
    5) If you get elected as an MP, will you remain as an independent or join another party?


    mobbsy91 - the Conservatives are the 'defending champions' of the General Election and I must say, in general your party has had a decent term. You had a very slow start to the term but your performance appears to have picked up as the term has progressed. Your manifesto creates a strong sense of déjà vu. I have no idea why. :rolleyes: Here are some questions:

    1) How would you distinguish yourself from Jammy Duel?
    2) What do you mean by 'core lifesaving services'? Are you pledging to increase funding for treatment programmes or A&E or something completely different?
    3) Would you say your vision for the future of the Conservatives differs significantly to that of your predecessor?
    4) I would say that failing to pass the Finance Bill was a blow to your party. Do you believe this hgihlights the MHoC's lack of confidence in Conservative economic policies?
    5) Last term there were a few cases of Conservative party members publicly attacking your coalition partner, the Liberals. Would you not agree that this could deter potential coalition partners in the future?




    TheBigMan2 - for someone who is so new to the MHoC, I commend you on your decision to stand in the General Election. I wish you all the best with your campaign. Here are some questions:

    1) Would you say that being so new to the MHoC could count against you?
    2) Why should people vote for you as opposed to parties with a similar political stance such as the Conservatives and UKIP?
    3) Why did you choose to stand as an independent and not join a party?
    4) You mention that you want to make sure interest rates are kept below 1%. This decision normally lies with the Bank of England so how would you ensure they did what you want them to?
    5) You mention 'post-Brexit Britain'. Would you say that the decision to leave the EU has changed your stance on certain policies?


    PetrosAC - the Liberals haven't had the best term but it's been ok. You've lost several key members and your legislation output appears to have been poor. I have to say though, I really like the design of your manifesto. Here are some questions:

    1) You've stated several times that your party will not be in Government under any condition this term. Can you promise to the franchise that you will not be in Government this term?
    2) How do you aim to close tax loopholes?
    3) You mention creating garden cities, one of the promises you broke. Will this pledge keep being repeated at every General Election?
    4) Why would you invest in Northern cities in particular?
    5) As Nigel pointed out recently, you've only managed to achieve 2 out of the 12 promises you made at the last General Election. What's your excuse for this and how can you guarantee that you won't break promises in the term ahead?


    DMcGovern cranbrook_aspie - the Socialists have had an outstanding term with regards to legislation and it has been good to work with you on the occasional project too. I like the professional look of your manifesto and of course agree with the majority of the content. :cool: Here are some questions:

    1) You are obviously one of two left-wing parties standing in this election, along with Labour. Why should a left-wing TSR member who is unsure how to vote, vote for you instead of Labour?
    2) Do you believe there should be a limit to how much trade union power should be increased by?
    3) When you say 'increase NHS funding', are there any specific areas you want to invest in?
    4) What sustainable energies would you invest in and why?
    5) Do you believe your small number of active members could help or hinder you next term?


    Unown Uzer - UKIP seems to have had a steady term despite losing a few of its members. I have to admit though, I did prefer the look of the manifesto at the last GE. Here are some questions:

    1) Your reason why people shouldn't vote for Labour is because they are 'drug abusers' and have 'admitted to commiting lewd and lascivious acts in public'. Where is the evidence for this and why is it relevant to this election?
    2) Immigration does seem to play a key role in your policies, both in the legislation you've created this term and in your manifesto. What would you say to those who believe UKIP's focus is too narrow?
    3) What would, in your opinion, be a 'sensible number' for immigration levels.
    4) Is it true that UKIP tried to set up a ConUKIP coalition in the middle of this term?
    5) TSR UKIP appears to be quite a right-wing party. Is this is a fair assumption and if so, are you planning for your party to stay like this for the forseeable future?



    Green Party - your manifesto is a class above the others and I commend you for the hard effort put in. Here are some questions:

    1) Why
    2) Haven't
    3) You
    4) Submitted
    5) A Manifesto?



    I will be interested to hear all your responses.
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    (Original post by The Financier)
    Indeed, but this is missing the point of my post. You stated that it is sensible, rational, and acceptable by the definition of economics, but if it cannot fully conform with the definition because of an alternative and well-accepted interpretation of efficiency, the definition of economics does not fully support the notion that pareto optimality is considered sensible, rational and acceptable.

    It's an interesting debate on semantics if nothing else.
    In all types of inefficiencies there will be a Pareto optimum point. You will not find a type of economic efficiency where all parties can be made better off, or one party made better off when another party is made worse off. Using your example of one individual holding all of the resources of production which another individual could use to provide utility, the productive efficiency point would be where the resources are distributed to produce goods consumers want to bring maximum utility; that point would be a Pareto optimum. As the concept of Pareto efficiency is making one side better off at the expense of the other side, all types of efficiency will have Pareto optimum points in. As all types of efficiency will have Pareto optimums, the definition of economics is fulfilled when a Pareto optimum point is reached.

    It should be noted here something can be Pareto efficient but not Pareto optimum, in the example I gave to Petros, it would have been flawless if I used optimum over efficiency but we all make errors; you are right about the semantics.
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    Wow, a couple of really nice looking manifestos there!

    Vote Liberal
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    Why anyone would waste their vote on a Liberal party which doesn't want to be in government next term is beyond me.
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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    Why anyone would waste their vote on a Liberal party which doesn't want to be in government next term is beyond me.
    Because we're the only party that can guarantee we won't be compromising on our views at all


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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    Because we're the only party that can guarantee we won't be compromising on our views at all


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    Plus, if a majority coalition is not formed, what happens?

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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    Because we're the only party that can guarantee we won't be compromising on our views at all


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    You've compromised enough of your views over the last three terms to last a lifetime. :lol: But seriously, what is the point of having policies if you don't want to follow them through?
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    (Original post by Andy98)
    Plus, if a majority coalition is not formed, what happens?

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    It means we'll hold the balance of power and be able to dictate some policies, block some policies, and work towards a more liberal, more prosperous and more green UK


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    Some of these posts have a very high sodium content. :yes:

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    (Original post by Snufkin)
    You've compromised enough of your views over the last three terms to last a lifetime. :lol: But seriously, what is the point of having policies if you don't want to follow them through?
    You can pass policy without being in Government you know?


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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    You can pass policy without being in Government you know?


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    You can pass policy without even being in a party

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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    It means we'll hold the balance of power and be able to dictate some policies, block some policies, and work towards a more liberal, more prosperous and more green UK


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    I'm more on about the: if there is no majority, there's no government; which surely means a reelection

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    (Original post by DMcGovern)
    #MCGOVERNMENT #YESWECRAN



    DON'T WASTE YOUR VOTE on a Liberal Party who will prop up Tory governments, cut taxes for the rich, and break their promises.

    DON'T WASTE YOUR VOTE on a dying and confused Green Party willing to prostitute its values for votes and who haven't even submitted a manifesto.

    And DON'T WASTE YOUR VOTE on a Labour, a "thoroughly bourgeois party, because although it consists of workers it is led by reactionaries, and the worst spirit reactionaries at that, who act fully in the spirit of the bourgeoisie. It is an organisation of the bourgeoisie which exists to systematically deceive the workers."


    PS that last policy from the Socialists though:



    Could not have put Labour better myself


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    (Original post by iEthan)
    Some of these posts have a very high sodium content. :yes:
    Indeed, and some posts are 100% fecal matter (I won't include an image because I've just eaten :sick:)
 
 
 
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