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(Original post by katrinakaif)
durham are a funny bunch..they think of themselves as elitists, yet hardly any get in banking. funny bunch they are. dont tell me the 3000 odd undergrads have no interest in banking lolol
Yes, because banking is everything, isn't it? :rolleyes: The Prime Ministers (though not UK), diplomats and ambassadors, royalty, military leaders, chief executives and MDs etc. Politics and the government have always been bigger attractions than banking.

Anyway, Durham isn't "elite". No uni is "elite" except for Oxbridge. Durham's one of the top unis in the country, alongside Warwick, UCL, Bristol etc. but I can't see how anyone can argue those are being "elite". I know very few people at Durham who think they are "elite". Don't know where you get that from. Maybe you just come across the wrong people?

LSE and Imperial are possibly elite, in their specialisms (so, for LSE, economics but not history). But that's it.
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So how many top ministers are from Durham? Could you list them, thanks.
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So how many top ministers are from Durham? Could you list them, thanks.
See for yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...itical_figures

Quite a few in the Commons and Lords.
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See for yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...itical_figures

Quite a few in the Commons and Lords.
I've been meaning to improve on that list. It's far from extensive. It actually missess off some of their most high profile grads.

In my PM before I forgot to add Jack Cunnigham, so that's Cunningham and Mowlam who are (as far as I know) the only New Labour cabinet ministers).
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okay thanks. I would have thought that even if you were very intelligent, you wouldn't have become a lord/mp unless you knew the right people; so it is not the fact that durham students became ministers/lords because the uni is reputed, but because they were born into rich families and hence knew the right people?
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when i phone a uni in kent (can't remember which one) a few year ago she was rather snobby to me when i told her that i had excepted a place at a different uni.
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okay thanks. I would have thought that even if you were very intelligent, you wouldn't have become a lord/mp unless you knew the right people; so it is not the fact that durham students became ministers/lords because the uni is reputed, but because they were born into rich families and hence knew the right people?
Not at all. The old boys network would have had an effect in the past, yes (don't forget that, until fairly recently, MPs didn't actually receive a salary) so only the rick became MPs.

But this isn't the case now. I wouldn't say Mo Mowlam or Jack Cunnigham were from aristocratic backgrounds. The reason why they produce government ministers, top civil servants, it is an elite law school (therefore produces QCs and judges), military leaders etc is because it's one of the country's top unis, therefore attracts some of the country's top students.

If you're suggesting it's not reputed then you're a fool.
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no ffs where did I say it is not reputed. I just said that you can't become a minister/mp/lord unless you come from a rich background, which clearly all those durham students turned mp did!
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(Original post by River85)
Not at all. The old boys network would have had an effect in the past, yes (don't forget that, until fairly recently, MPs didn't actually receive a salary) so only the rick became MPs.

But this isn't the case now. I wouldn't say Mo Mowlam or Jack Cunnigham were from aristocratic backgrounds. The reason why they produce government ministers, top civil servants, it is an elite law school (therefore produces QCs and judges), military leaders etc is because it's one of the country's top unis, therefore attracts some of the country's top students.

If you're suggesting it's not reputed then you're a fool.
Everytime I see your name I can normally bet my life what place/University you will mention/describe/big up before even reading it!
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no ffs where did I say it is not reputed. I just said that you can't become a minister/mp/lord unless you come from a rich background, which clearly all those durham students turned mp did!
What, like Dave Anderson (my MP, was a coal miner then a social worker), Mo Mowlam, Jack Cunnigham, Nick Gibb.....?

Yes, those who were MPs and graduated in the ninteenth century but then that's true of all MPs of the time, regardless of which uni they attended.
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(Original post by Dom1989)
Everytime I see your name I can normally bet my life what place/University you will mention/describe/big up before even reading it!
I'm not bigging it up, I just read that someone claims Durham isn't elite as it doesn't produce a large number of IBers, I reply that it's superficial judging a uni just on the number of bankers it produces. Although Durham isn't elite (as no unis outside Oxbridge are) there are far more important areas to look for whether or not a uni is prestigious. This includes its alumni in areas such as the civil service and government, religion, business, law etc.

A fair comment. The same goes for any of the other top unis. This could easily be Edinburgh, Bristol etc.
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From what i've seen Bristol and Exeter are all Oxbridge rejects with chips on their shoulders
Gross generalisation much?!
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Gross generalisation much?!
This thread is full of them.

Everyone at Durham got rejected from Oxbridge!
All MPs were born in castles and had solid gold toys as children!
All private school kids are horrible rahs!
This one person I met there was horrible, therefore everyone is!
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Arghhh I absolutely hate University prestige.
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Arghhh I absolutely hate University prestige.
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Then later when we were walking past a modern Cathedral I made this comment,

"That cathedral is horrible, I really rather the more traditional buildings" To which he replied,
"Thats just because you're Catholic"

An even bigger idiot than I thought.
What modern cathedrals are there in Glasgow?
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What Modern Catherdrals are there in the whole WORLD?
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Arghhh I absolutely hate University prestige.
I agree. People can get so caught up in it.
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Yeah, the whole My University is better than Your University is complete bull. This is what put me off Manchester when i was there on the bus going past the Met. 30 Rugby players all screaming out the window 'I'd rather be in Bagdad than the met' I just thought, what scum.
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What Modern Catherdrals are there in the whole WORLD?
Gaudi in Barcelona? (Insofar as it's still being built...)
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