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    (Original post by balloon_parade)
    At the moment you do and so you should! I would want someone university level educated in teaching as well as their subject teaching my children. Wouldn't you? You'll just have to suck it up for 9 months and then you'll be qualified, loads of people find the university side difficult but you've just got to get on with it I'm afraid.

    Keep your eyes peeled in future though who knows what the next government initiative is going to be, I've heard things like 'training schools' being set up (you know like training hospitals) and a more GTP like initiative for teacher training overall so see where that goes.
    it's no so much i find uni hard but i jus hate being in uni! if the course and lectures were school based i would have no problem. I suffer from anxiety at uni!
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    (Original post by rock_climber86)
    it's no so much i find uni hard but i jus hate being in uni! if the course and lectures were school based i would have no problem. I suffer from anxiety at uni!
    I'd say Teach First is probably your best bet then.

    Although some of the training takes place at university, it's slightly different. You have a 3-week residential course in your region, followed by a 3-week course at the University of Warwick. These take place in the summer holiday, so although you're on a university campus I imagine it's quite different to being there in term time.

    After that you're straight into school in September, so it's definitely a less uni-based route overall.

    Personally I'm very glad to be doing a PGCE not TeachFirst, and I think building up gradually to teaching, and getting to know lots of other people at uni so we can support one another is really important (though I'm really looking forwards to getting into my placement school in a couple of weeks!), but everyone is different and maybe TeachFirst would be better for you.

    As an aside, I appreciate that you may have a good reason for your negativity towards university, particularly if you had a really bad experience during your undergraduate degree which has caused this anxiety you feel. But I hope you would be able to put this aside when talking to pupils about their future plans, as for many people university is a fantastic opportunity and I wouldn't want them to be put off by someone else's negative attitude.
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    Well week 5 is complete. I can't believe how fast this year is going. Been to my placement school twice now and don't start my official placement until a few weeks but I'm really excited by it all! Glad it's the weekend, need some serious catch up on sleep.


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    (Original post by Keziah)
    I'd say Teach First is probably your best bet then.

    Although some of the training takes place at university, it's slightly different. You have a 3-week residential course in your region, followed by a 3-week course at the University of Warwick. These take place in the summer holiday, so although you're on a university campus I imagine it's quite different to being there in term time.

    After that you're straight into school in September, so it's definitely a less uni-based route overall.

    Personally I'm very glad to be doing a PGCE not TeachFirst, and I think building up gradually to teaching, and getting to know lots of other people at uni so we can support one another is really important (though I'm really looking forwards to getting into my placement school in a couple of weeks!), but everyone is different and maybe TeachFirst would be better for you.

    As an aside, I appreciate that you may have a good reason for your negativity towards university, particularly if you had a really bad experience during your undergraduate degree which has caused this anxiety you feel. But I hope you would be able to put this aside when talking to pupils about their future plans, as for many people university is a fantastic opportunity and I wouldn't want them to be put off by someone else's negative attitude.
    uni is like the worst thing ever! i've dropped out of oxford, warwick, IoE pgce course and on the verge of dropping out of a msc at imperial college :/....Tbh dont even know if i'd be able to stand even 3 weeks at warwick...dropped out after a week the first time :eek:
    Wish uni was more like high school
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    (Original post by rock_climber86)
    uni is like the worst thing ever! i've dropped out of oxford, warwick, IoE pgce course and on the verge of dropping out of a msc at imperial college :/....Tbh dont even know if i'd be able to stand even 3 weeks at warwick...dropped out after a week the first time :eek:
    Wish uni was more like high school
    Have you thought about getting some Cognitive Behaviour Therapy? I have a few friends with various anxieties and they have both gone down this route with great success. Please don't drop out of your MSC! Keep going and let the university know about your troubles!

    Does the Open university doe PGCEs for secondary subjects? Might be more useful? (They do: http:///www3.open.ac.uk/study/underg...cation/s16.htm )There is also universities which offer distance learning PGCEs with little contact time, how would something like that fair?

    Good luck and I'm sure you'll get there!
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    (Original post by balloon_parade)
    There is also universities which offer distance learning PGCEs with little contact time, how would something like that fair?

    Good luck and I'm sure you'll get there!
    this sounds better esp that open uni course, but i'll have to see how this msc goes. I'm currently in such a state i'm missing lectures today even . I have a field trip tomorrow but don't feel well enough to go to that either...

    . I was referred to CBT a few years ago but i waited 6 months+ for an appointment and by this time i was just so disillusioned by the wait i just said i was better and left it at that :/. I've got a referral again and am waiting to see a specialist. Thanks for your advice
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    (Original post by 22KT22)
    Other than Teach First which is 6 weeks training at a uni and then working at the school, the only other option is a PGCE or BA hons in education.
    BEd Hons, not BA, you don't get QTS with a BA.
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    Just started placement lovign the placement school! really friendly
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    (Original post by dom99)
    BEd Hons, not BA, you don't get QTS with a BA.
    Yes you do. I should know since that's what I'm currently studying.

    http://www.cumbria.ac.uk/Courses/Sub...Education.aspx

    Although I'm studying a 4 year BA hons with QTS and a specialist subject.

    Obviously depends on the University and what teaching course you're studying but it's either the BA Hons or as you stated a BEd Hons both of which can have QTS.
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    (Original post by 22KT22)
    Yes you do. I should know since that's what I'm currently studying.

    http://www.cumbria.ac.uk/Courses/Sub...Education.aspx

    Although I'm studying a 4 year BA hons with QTS and a specialist subject.

    Obviously depends on the University and what teaching course you're studying but it's either the BA Hons or as you stated a BEd Hons both of which can have QTS.
    I don't think this is really the best place for this discussion, seeing as it is a thread for current ITT students, but just to note that you can do Education BA Hons courses that do not have QTS. If you want to do an Education BA, you have to look at the individual courses to see if they offer QTS.
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    (Original post by affinity89)
    I don't think this is really the best place for this discussion, seeing as it is a thread for current ITT students, but just to note that you can do Education BA Hons courses that do not had QTS. If you want to do an Education BA, you have to look at the individual courses to see if they offer QTS.
    I was answering the post made by another guy as I offered my advice to someone who asked about a PGCE or other routes into teaching which before doing my current degree i looked at. Wasn't meaning to get in a discussion but thought i should right wrong info.
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    Hows everyone feeling atm?

    I have my first proper placement day monday and i have a collab teaching session followed by a full solo teaching hour! Talk about being thrown in at the deep end.

    Im trying to plan my lesson for it now but have no idea what im doing since i dont know what the kids already know (or anything else about them!).
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    (Original post by ponpon14)
    Hows everyone feeling atm?

    I have my first proper placement day monday and i have a collab teaching session followed by a full solo teaching hour! Talk about being thrown in at the deep end.

    Im trying to plan my lesson for it now but have no idea what im doing since i dont know what the kids already know (or anything else about them!).
    I've not got into school yet - they seem to be easing us in quite gently here.

    Next week I'm in school for 2 days (and uni for the other 3), but it's mostly just for getting to know my way around the school, finding out school policies, meeting people like the SENCO and trainee co-ordinator and stuff. From the 5th November I'm in school full-time, but don't start teaching for another week (the first week is for observing lessons, looking at Schemes of Work, planning, etc.)! So hopefully by then I should have some idea of what the pupils are like and what they've already learned.

    Still, once that comes around my tutor wants me to get straight in there with the classes rather than just doing bits and bobs of lessons. She said that by sending me in to teach a whole lesson it should help assert my role as a teacher rather than pupils being unclear about it because I've just done starter tasks or whatever. I think I'm happy with that, but it means I'll have a lot of preparation to do, to plan a strong lesson for each class.

    Good luck with your first day teaching.
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    (Original post by Keziah)
    I've not got into school yet - they seem to be easing us in quite gently here.

    Next week I'm in school for 2 days (and uni for the other 3), but it's mostly just for getting to know my way around the school, finding out school policies, meeting people like the SENCO and trainee co-ordinator and stuff. From the 5th November I'm in school full-time, but don't start teaching for another week (the first week is for observing lessons, looking at Schemes of Work, planning, etc.)! So hopefully by then I should have some idea of what the pupils are like and what they've already learned.

    Still, once that comes around my tutor wants me to get straight in there with the classes rather than just doing bits and bobs of lessons. She said that by sending me in to teach a whole lesson it should help assert my role as a teacher rather than pupils being unclear about it because I've just done starter tasks or whatever. I think I'm happy with that, but it means I'll have a lot of preparation to do, to plan a strong lesson for each class.

    Good luck with your first day teaching.
    I always found observing at first quite pointless as I didn't really know what I was looking for. Once you have some experience it's easier to recognise good teaching practices. It was useful to use the time to get to know your classes though.

    My advise would be learn their names as fast as you can, makes a huge difference when telling the delinquents how many minutes of their break they have lost
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    First lesson today though completly on a shoestring as im just covering for someone who's going to be away, excited though! Reall gives me a chance to see where I'm at with it all!
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    (Original post by dom99)
    I always found observing at first quite pointless as I didn't really know what I was looking for. Once you have some experience it's easier to recognise good teaching practices. It was useful to use the time to get to know your classes though.

    My advise would be learn their names as fast as you can, makes a huge difference when telling the delinquents how many minutes of their break they have lost
    The second part is what observation is for in my opinion. When watching your classes, anyway. By the end of the lesson you will know a handful of names, even if it's just the naughty ones!
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    3 days into my placement and I'm bed ridden with severe tonsillitis. I think I'm just going to go and cry in a corner.


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    3 days into my placement and I'm bed ridden with severe tonsillitis. I think I'm just going to go and cry in a corner.


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    You poor thing! I actually had my tonsils removed while I was doing my PGCE because they were so prone to infection.


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    Tired, but placement is thus far brilliant and I couldn't be happier with it
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    Just booked my skills tests since our teacher numbers came through this week. Thought ill attempt to get them out of the way now before my 12 block placement starts!

    Has anyone had any success with them yet? My maths isn't the greatest but I can get about 61% on the online tests without revision so hoping if I brush up I can get by on the first attempt.


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