(Original post by jismith1989)
Cool, that sounds interesting. I was just reading through Sihler's comparative grammar yesterday, it's been a while since I've done anything seriously classical tbh.
I don't understand what you mean by wanting a provider that makes it private without a password or direct link though -- how would anyone access it? Or do you just want it private at first
so you can work on putting magnificent things up there without anyone being able to see your tinkering, and then
you can grandly unveil when it's fully tinkered with?
By the way, on the topic of your discussion/rant earlier, what (if anything) do you think about Black Athena
? It seems to be quite unpopular within classical circles, yet, from what I know of it (and of course I've not read all three volumes in entirety), it doesn't seem to be arguing much more than you were in your post. Lots of the criticism seems to be based around the idea that Bernal's use of evidence is a bit shaky, but I can't really comment on that.
Well I guess we'd give the link/password out to people here and a few others at first, then maybe make it public, get one or two other people adding tutorials etc. Sounds fun.
Sihler's is a great book, I managed to score a hardback really cheaply a while ago. Tought.
As for "Black Athena"...well...short answer: Its a pile of ****. Long answer, considerably more complicated and nuanced.
The thing is, the generic idea is right: The ancients saw themselves reasonably integrated with Africa/The East and due to racism/lack of sources previous scholars have sort of bleached them white in more ways than one. I.e the idea of the Greeks as the fount of everything, a great civilisation that sprang out of nothing etc.
The thing is, a lot of those criticisms would be much more valid 100 or even 60 years ago. The eurocentric view is heavily lessening, even in Germany where the racialist model was strongest. Its rare to see blond haired blue eye'd Greeks in art even there now, apparently. You can't really learn about Greek epic/religion without having a strong grasp of all the near Eastern stuff they borrow. Anyone doing any serious linguistic work has to learn to deal with the semiticisms etc. In short, very few serious researchers won't admit that Greece was essentially a "Near Eastern" (I hate that term too! as if all those civs existed as one thing!) culture. Obviously the problem is there are too few who consider the impact of these important studies, but we're talking about Black Athena now not the problems more generally.
BA in its basic idea is right, I guess. The problem is the focus on Egypt (and Egypt as a "black" civilisation). Assyria? Phoenicians? Hittites and Hurrians? Mesopotamia? SURE. We accept all these influences but Egypt affected Greece comparatively little post bronze age. Moreover all the linguistic arguments are stupid and it takes it just...its stupid.
Basically its just random and unscholarly. We accept and even exploit the Near Eastern angle, but Bernals book is just....bad. Basically more people like Burkert, West, Kakridis...less like that.
Sorry, ineloquent, but I'm rather ill. Stomach cramps, severe. I'm going to go recite Works and Days a bit.