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    (Original post by Rooroo96)
    I just read the new curriculum review and I was wondering if anyone else was anyone concerned that we might be guinea pigs in this ambitious new plan? It's also quite worrying with the bad anatomy rep and the number of students who used to complain about pbl

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    I spoke to a medical student when I went too ok at the accommodation, and he said he thinks we'll be getting around 20 hours of lectures a week (1st year) which will be better than what he had to do for PBL (more self-taught). I think it'll be nice going into a new course, I suppose there may be some small problems but they've run some trials and presumably planned a lot out so I wouldn't be too worried


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    (Original post by Rooroo96)
    I just read the new curriculum review and I was wondering if anyone else was anyone concerned that we might be guinea pigs in this ambitious new plan? It's also quite worrying with the bad anatomy rep and the number of students who used to complain about pbl

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    And yet you applied to Liverpool so frankly if you're having these worries now, there's a problem in your application approach.

    Frankly, it annoys me when people bring up Liverpool's bad anatomy and physiology rep. If anything, the problem was not with the system but with the users of the system. You can't have a self-taught system which is amazing if students don't self-teach themselves the basics; and it was quite sadly true that most, but not all, students preferred not to.

    The issues with PBl have since been resolved over the last few years. There are a few small outstanding issues which need addressing in my opinion but the new curriculum looks a hell of a lot better than it did previously. In that sense, why would't you want to be a so called guinea pig?

    Furthermore, I answered a similar question before via PM and will post my reply below:

    (Original post by Kyalimers)
    Q: Ok sure, many thanks, just a few questions really:- would the 2014/5 batch be sort of guinea pigs for the new course?

    A: Yes and no. The course has been created with the input of several clinicians and many many current students. We have been the guinea pigs, if anything. But what you will inevitably find during medical school anywhere is that at some point, things will change. People don't like change and thus think they're being made guinea pigs, or so they believe.
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    (Original post by Kyalimers)
    And yet you applied to Liverpool so frankly if you're having these worries now, there's a problem in your application approach.

    Frankly, it annoys me when people bring up Liverpool's bad anatomy and physiology rep. If anything, the problem was not with the system but with the users of the system. You can't have a self-taught system which is amazing if students don't self-teach themselves the basics; and it was quite sadly true that most, but not all, students preferred not to.

    The issues with PBl have since been resolved over the last few years. There are a few small outstanding issues which need addressing in my opinion but the new curriculum looks a hell of a lot better than it did previously. In that sense, why would't you want to be a so called guinea pig?

    Furthermore, I answered a similar question before via PM and will post my reply below:

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    Pahahahhaha you don't know anything about my application approach, it was just a few concerns....

    there are positives and negatives about every medical school last time I checked and when I applied, self teaching anatomy and physiology were the main negatives of Liverpool that I found, but I told myself I'd overcome that myself because I'm hard working, just wanted some more light shed on that matter.

    My main worry was really the curriculum, at first I thought great, they're listening to their student needs, exactly what I want, but just had some doubts. I love the city and would love to study there so don't get me wrong, I not like hating on the med school here. It would be much more amicable if you could structure your replies in a nicer way as well, and getting annoyed by tsr posts is the last thing anyone should go through.

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    Hey everyone,
    I just got my feedback from Liverpool and they said ' your interview score was good and made some extremely useful comments, however we interviewed 1000 students and have only 255 places'. I'm glad I wasn't rejected because of my application so I think I will get the grades and reapply! xxx
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    (Original post by Rooroo96)
    Pahahahhaha you don't know anything about my application approach, it was just a few concerns....
    No and my comment was not aimed at your application approach, simply at your preceding post.

    there are positives and negatives about every medical school last time I checked and when I applied, self teaching anatomy and physiology were the main negatives of Liverpool that I found, but I told myself I'd overcome that myself because I'm hard working, just wanted some more light shed on that matter.
    You don't have to justify this to anyone.

    My main worry was really the curriculum, at first I thought great, they're listening to their student needs, exactly what I want, but just had some doubts. I love the city and would love to study there so don't get me wrong, I not like hating on the med school here. It would be much more amicable if you could structure your replies in a nicer way as well, and getting annoyed by tsr posts is the last thing anyone should go through.
    At no point was I annoyed by your particular post. My annoyance is aimed in general at those who slate something which they know nothing about (and again, this is not you). As such, my annoyance is a general annoyance.

    In fact, look back at my replies on here and seldom will you find a word written in anger. I think communication has gone awry; it is so difficult to to convey the tone and direction of a sentence on here after all.

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    (Original post by Cutaneoplast™)
    Re: Response to Liverpool's "Bad Anatomy Reputation" and "Bottom Of the League Tables".

    This all began in February 2008 when a medical educator published an article on BMJ to determine the varying Membership of the Royal Colleges of Physicians (MRCP) Examination scores in different medical schools. It showed that Liverpool, Dundee, Belfast and Aberdeen did worse compared to medical schools like Oxford and Cambridge.

    Link To Article: http://www.biomedcentral.com/content...1-7015-6-5.pdf

    Link to BBC Media Article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7242897.stm

    What The GMC Says About League Tables:
    Link: http://www.gmc-uk.org/education/unde...aqs.asp#6which

    It is entirely up to you how you use these information to guide you on which medical school is best for you. Hope that helps.
    An interesting read.

    I once tore apart university medicine league tables and if I find some time, will re-write my opinions on them. There's a surprising amount of bias, factual inconsistency, subjectivity and plain outright idiocy in making them for medicine.
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    Are you allowed to ask for feedback even if you have am offer?
    Just for like future reference and other interviews?

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    (Original post by Cutaneoplast™)
    So sorry to hear that, but never lose hope. You should definitely re-apply for next year if you really want Liverpool. You could also phone up Liverpool on results day, co'z not all students with offers will attain their predicted grades/grade offers so worth trying anyway (there's nothing wrong with it even if it's unlikely that they will give you a place).

    There's also the new UCLAN Medical School which you can apply to either through UCAS or via Direct Paper Application. Deadline is on the 30th April I think (?), but worth looking into anyway if you want to still get into medicine this year. On UCAS it says it's now only open to International Students but on their website, it says it's still open for both, hmmm. But I think you'd have to pay the tuition fee upfront when you start.
    Hey thanx for the advice and support, but I just went on their website and it says 'UK HE fee regulations prevent UK/EU students applying for this programme'...
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    (Original post by Cutaneoplast™)
    So sorry to hearing that, but never lose hope. You should definitely re-apply for next year if you really want Liverpool. You could also phone up Liverpool on results day, co'z not all students with offers will attain their predicted grades/grade offers so worth trying anyway (there's nothing wrong with it even if it's unlikely that they will give you a place).

    There's also the new UCLAN Medical School which you can apply to either through UCAS or via Direct Paper Application. Deadline is on the 30th April I think (?), but worth looking into anyway if you want to still get into medicine this year. On UCAS it says it's now only open to International Students but on their website, it says it's still open for both, hmmm. But I think you'd have to pay the tuition fee upfront when you start.
    I applied there as a backup backup if I didn't get into Birmingham or Liverpool. Got an interview. Thankfully I got into Bham and Liverpool so I cancelled the interview but I don't know how I feel about being the first set of students in a new medical school
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    (Original post by leema24)
    I applied there as a backup backup if I didn't get into Birmingham or Liverpool. Got an interview. Thankfully I got into Bham and Liverpool so I cancelled the interview but I don't know how I feel about being the first set of students in a new medical school
    It's not even GMC accredited yet either ? So isn't it a bit risky for people to apply there and do the degree only for it to not get accredited and be left with a useless degree ?
    Also how would people be able to afford the fees upfront unless they are loaded I'm really confused how it works :/


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    (Original post by leema24)
    I applied there as a backup backup if I didn't get into Birmingham or Liverpool. Got an interview. Thankfully I got into Bham and Liverpool so I cancelled the interview but I don't know how I feel about being the first set of students in a new medical school
    Bdw congrats on ur offers have u firmed yet ?


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    Do liverpool do MMI or panel interviews?


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    (Original post by meddyg_dyfodol)
    Do liverpool do MMI or panel interviews?


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    Panel mine lasted about 10 mins

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    Hi all,

    I'm a graduate medic in my 20s starting in September and am not too keen on going back into halls or sharing with freshers.

    Are there any other medics/ postgrads who would be interested in sharing a house? x
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    (Original post by aishaahmed96)
    Bdw congrats on ur offers have u firmed yet ?


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    thank you! Yup1 Birmingham firm, Liverpool insurance. You?
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    (Original post by leema24)
    thank you! Yup1 Birmingham firm, Liverpool insurance. You?
    I firmed Liverpool


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    Hi

    Could I ask a quick question of any current students at Liverpool?

    I notice the student satisfaction rate is quite low - both with the course in general and level of support. Can you tell me why you think this is and whether you think the curriculum review will turn this around?

    Would be very grateful to have your opinions on this

    Thank you
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    (Original post by leema24)
    thank you! Yup1 Birmingham firm, Liverpool insurance. You?
    Congratulations, what GCSE and A-level grades did you get?
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    I've insured Liverpool Firmed Leeds though.
    Good luck to everyone for your a levels
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    (Original post by Elliottmanwaring)
    Congratulations, what GCSE and A-level grades did you get?
    I did IGCSE and I got 7A*s 2As and a B(in P.E) I don't do a levels I do the IB. I'm predicted 41 out of 42 points. Are you applying to Birmingham?
 
 
 
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