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    (Original post by robo donkey)
    I was crashed into yesterday morning so now have whiplash so the geography department at placement have sent me home as I'm in constant pain. They seemed impressed that I went in today at all, which was cool. But my god I'm on so much pain
    You poor thing. I had a car crash last September and suffered from back pain for months. Make sure you get some good physio treatment, it will do wonders.


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    (Original post by myblueheaven339)
    I had to take 2 weeks off during my PGCE to have an operation last year. My uni and placement school were really supportive and it didn't affect my course too much. Just be aware that you will probably find you are playing catch up for a week of so afterwards. Feel better soon.

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    Thank you, that's such a relief! Are you ok now? Did you find had more difficulty with jobs having two weeks less experience?
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    (Original post by sunfowers01)
    I'm in Spain. I haven't had the proper training required to teach kids and they just dont listen. I feel like I'm a babysitter.
    You don't tend to need training to teach EFL unfortunately. I did my CELTA before I taught children but going from 15 eager to listen adults to a class of 30 11 year olds who don't care and range from struggling to reply to 'how are you?' to having lived in the US for a few years and being near fluent is still a shock!

    So it's the behaviour management side we're trying to improve! It depends on a few things but there's lots you can try to get them motivated to listen and participate! Sorry for all the questions but it might help!

    How big are your classses? How old are the children? Are they mixed ability classes? Do you have any reward/sanction systems in place? How long are your lessons? Do you have to follow any particular course or book? Are you working in a Primary school or are you doing after school? That can make a big difference too, if the kids have already been at school all day generally they'll just want to have fun after school making BM trickier!!

    Don't quit! It takes a while but with perserverence you can crack it!! D Is there another teacher you could ask to come observe you and give you some pointers? Or could you go and watch someone else?
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    (Original post by Sarang_assa)
    Thank you, that's such a relief! Are you ok now? Did you find had more difficulty with jobs having two weeks less experience?
    I managed to get a job for September, I did have a fair few interviews but the fact that I had time off was never mentioned.


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    (Original post by Suzanathema)
    People who think they are doing amazingly at this stage in the course are completely talking out of their arses.

    The fact you can be reflective and discuss what went well and how to improve suggests you'll make a much better teacher than those who just bask in their own smugness.



    I know that some of the trainees who were like that on my PGCE year failed to make progress later on because they thought they knew it all already. It's only your first observation - I'm sure you'll be fine

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    I can count the amount of observations I had where the only positive was "you took the register" on more than both hands.
    The fact that you are reflecting and looking to improve shows that you will. Don't let one observation get you down. If I had done that, I would have dropped out of teacher training after about 2 weeks...

    (Original post by myrtille)
    Don't worry - we're all here to learn and improve, not to show how great we are at teaching 2 months into the course...

    You say they seemed to be struggling to think of the positives, but at least they did find some, so it wasn't a complete disaster. Also, the criticisms you've mentioned are to do with the lesson (the activities you planned and consequently the pace, which had a knock-on effect on other areas), not your personality and professionalism as a teacher. After all, you're on the course to learn how to plan lessons and they'll be getting better all the time.

    I had my observation from the university last week and got loads of criticisms of the activities I'd planned (not challenging enough, not purposeful enough, took too long so pace dropped, etc...) but they were pleased with my positive interactions with pupils and that I knew all their names.

    Your mentor will want to see that you can take critical feedback, accept where you made mistakes, and move on. Your discussion with them was part of that, and now you need to try and apply what you've learned to future lessons.

    Thanks everyone, i guess I am just feeling frustrated, as I feel as if I am actually getting worse, not better, the list of negative points after each lesson just keeps getting longer.
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    (Original post by Sarang_assa)
    You don't tend to need training to teach EFL unfortunately. I did my CELTA before I taught children but going from 15 eager to listen adults to a class of 30 11 year olds who don't care and range from struggling to reply to 'how are you?' to having lived in the US for a few years and being near fluent is still a shock!

    So it's the behaviour management side we're trying to improve! It depends on a few things but there's lots you can try to get them motivated to listen and participate! Sorry for all the questions but it might help!

    How big are your classses? How old are the children? Are they mixed ability classes? Do you have any reward/sanction systems in place? How long are your lessons? Do you have to follow any particular course or book? Are you working in a Primary school or are you doing after school? That can make a big difference too, if the kids have already been at school all day generally they'll just want to have fun after school making BM trickier!!

    Don't quit! It takes a while but with perserverence you can crack it!! D Is there another teacher you could ask to come observe you and give you some pointers? Or could you go and watch someone else?
    Thanks for replying. I'm teaching in an academy, so the kids come after school. Classes have between 6 and 12 students each. I have classes with second year primary to final year of secondary. However, the chairs are those lecture theatre type ones rather than a desk and chair. It sometimes leads to profe so and so is kicking me. The classes are grouped according to year group which means it can be mixed ability. It's certainly mixed on the motivation front. Classes are an hour and we have a textbook for primary but not secondary. As far as rewards are concerned, there is a present given at the end of the month to each child if they behave well enough.

    I don't know if doing observations will be possible because we all teach 6 hours straight.
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    I've been looking over on the TES forums and keep reading about people failing their placements; I would know if I was, right? It seems a stupid question, but how do you know if you're failing? What constitutes failing a placement?

    Its been really tough this last couple of weeks; its been knackering. I can feel my progression though, which is good. And I'm losing weight- although I was skinny to begin with ha ha!
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    (Original post by StarBabyCat)
    I've been looking over on the TES forums and keep reading about people failing their placements; I would know if I was, right? It seems a stupid question, but how do you know if you're failing? What constitutes failing a placement?

    Its been really tough this last couple of weeks; its been knackering. I can feel my progression though, which is good. And I'm losing weight- although I was skinny to begin with ha ha!
    I should think they would be putting all manner of strategies into place to help you before failing you so don't worry, you're not just going to get booted out one day!


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    (Original post by noodles!)
    I'm an MFL teacher in secondary so could probably pitch in with ideas to help you with teaching.

    Getting them to listen is hard work- I currently have a very sore throat! Do you always wait for silence before you speak? It can feel like a lifetime waiting but it's SO worth it.

    What sort of work/activities do you give the children?


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    That would be amazing if you were able to help. I feel yor pain on the sore throat front. All of my colleagues have been I'll this week and it seems it's now my turn. There are three of us teaching full time plus one part time and the secretary.

    I try to wait for silence all the time but it feels like a lifetime. Sometime I hardly get anything done. I give the students group work, pair work, videos from you tube and songs with gap fills. They enjoy the videos and songs but pair and group work is tricky- some end up talking in Spanish or the class as a whole gets very loud.

    Pitching activities at the right level is tricky especially with older but low ability students or unmotivated ones.
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    (Original post by sunfowers01)
    That would be amazing if you were able to help. I feel yor pain on the sore throat front. All of my colleagues have been I'll this week and it seems it's now my turn. There are three of us teaching full time plus one part time and the secretary.

    I try to wait for silence all the time but it feels like a lifetime. Sometime I hardly get anything done. I give the students group work, pair work, videos from you tube and songs with gap fills. They enjoy the videos and songs but pair and group work is tricky- some end up talking in Spanish or the class as a whole gets very loud.

    Pitching activities at the right level is tricky especially with older but low ability students or unmotivated ones.
    Message me with the next topic/work you want to do and I'll see if I can help at all


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    (Original post by StarBabyCat)
    I've been looking over on the TES forums and keep reading about people failing their placements; I would know if I was, right? It seems a stupid question, but how do you know if you're failing? What constitutes failing a placement?

    Its been really tough this last couple of weeks; its been knackering. I can feel my progression though, which is good. And I'm losing weight- although I was skinny to begin with ha ha!
    They should let you know if there are any major concerns. Our university tutors told us that they would come in to do additional observations if our school co-tutors reported having 'cause for concern' but that this shouldn't come as a surprise - we'd already be aware if things were that bad.

    Sometimes I just ask my co-tutor if things are going OK, to be honest. Feedback is always mixed, with things that went well and things that need to be improved, and if I feel the balance is a bit on the negative side one week I'll just say to her "do you think things are going OK?" and so far she's said yes, and that she isn't worried.

    Unless there are problems with your co-tutor, I'd say ask them.
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    (Original post by myrtille)
    They should let you know if there are any major concerns. Our university tutors told us that they would come in to do additional observations if our school co-tutors reported having 'cause for concern' but that this shouldn't come as a surprise - we'd already be aware if things were that bad.

    Sometimes I just ask my co-tutor if things are going OK, to be honest. Feedback is always mixed, with things that went well and things that need to be improved, and if I feel the balance is a bit on the negative side one week I'll just say to her "do you think things are going OK?" and so far she's said yes, and that she isn't worried.

    Unless there are problems with your co-tutor, I'd say ask them.

    At my uni if you are predicted a grade 3 or 4 at the end of the placement then they start to offer additional support or start observing more.
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    My whiplash is subsiding somewhat, I just have a rather stiff neck now. Planned around 7 lessons on my time off for the week ahead and I'm continuing my first learning assignment. I guess if I'm having the time off I might as well do some work that will contribute positively to the course. M I Rite? Upto 3700 words out of 6000. Beautiful!
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    (Original post by robo donkey)
    My whiplash is subsiding somewhat, I just have a rather stiff neck now. Planned around 7 lessons on my time off for the week ahead and I'm continuing my first learning assignment. I guess if I'm having the time off I might as well do some work that will contribute positively to the course. M I Rite? Upto 3700 words out of 6000. Beautiful!
    Glad to hear you're feeling better, don't work too hard.


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    Taking somewhat regular breaks. My neck always get worse from like 5-6 in the evening it feels like, possibly due to tiredness and being up all day I guess. Getting there though.
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    O my gosh, some of you are really in the warzone! I'm so sorry to hear about your accident robo-donkey, but I'm glad you're on the mend! And at least you've had productive time off It really well look so good that you made the effort to go in though after the accident; I can't imagine that many people would!! And I'm sorry you're unwell again Sarang I have been constantly trying to fend off bugs since starting my PGCE, after going through my undergrad with basicaly never getting unwell! It's crazy! My last week was horrific. I had my mid-point review on the Monday and woke up and my voice was super hoarse and I could feel the illness coming on! By Tuesday as I was really not well and Wednesday was horrific, but I battled through the week!

    I'm enjoying the PGCE and I loved my school experience. I adore my school, but it's certainly a LOT of hard work!! I did 4 weeks of teaching and am now back at University untilthe Christmas holidays, after which I will be at my school again for 5 weeks of teaching, which will go up to 3 days teaching per week! I am feeling rather anxious about being able to fit in planning for 4 more lessons :/ I feel like I am slow and am not really picking up my pace...I'm going to have to though!

    I;m not a big fan of the master's element of the course...It takes up my time when I feel I could be doing more productive things, like planning for next term and making resources and maybe fitting in some rest time!!
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    Taking today off, neck is killing me, possibly over did it or something. I'm so sad

    I love the school I'm on placement at and I'm getting the hang of teaching then bam, whiplash. So unfair.
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    Thank you Angel_night. Just been to see the specialist again. Ive got two more weeks of bed rest and they're starting me on dapsone (the drug they use for leprosy :s) as long as my blood tests show my kidneys are ok. It means I have to miss this last week of school and a week of uni but then at least we have 3 weeks off so I'm not missing any more.

    Apparently I've got an autoimmune disease called Henoch Schonein Purpura which affects my blood vessels. Can't believe all this is because of tonsillitis. Blimmin kiddy germs!!!

    Hope others are having better luck and enjoying Christmas in schools! Xxx


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    (Original post by Kidders)
    HUGE step up from undergrad degree!! (i think the MA students are a little better prepared)

    Rant over.
    LOL.

    I'm doing an MA actually, it's less formal work than the MSc I did in the past, but I spend a lot of time reading around the subject.

    Anyway LOL again. Work is hard unless you are fortunate to have a cushy job (some do exist). I worked in the oilfield for over 10 years and that was 12 hours a day for up to 60 days, and once I did 72 hours with no sleep working continuously.
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    (Original post by robo donkey)
    Taking today off, neck is killing me, possibly over did it or something. I'm so sad

    I love the school I'm on placement at and I'm getting the hang of teaching then bam, whiplash. So unfair.
    Good luck with that. I hurt my neck in a jeep going over sand dunes in the Libyan desert and it took about a year to feel normal again. Necks take ages to heal because they are hard to rest.
 
 
 
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