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The Tories are a pretty solid bunch. Almost as solid as Labour.
Hahaha, you wish
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Hahaha, you wish
I don't think even hardline Tories would deny that Labour, stability-wise, has been the ideal Party this term.

Greens have a Prime Minister go missing.
UKIP do whatever it is UKIP do.
Libertarians vanish.
Socialists (bless 'em) don't really have a leader.
Liberals VONC their Leader and their Chairman gets banned.
Tories have a leader step down and the new leader temporarily banned.

Labour has the same Leader, Deputy and Chair as the start of the term and we've all undergone a confidence motion half-way in to ensure we have the support of the party.
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I don't think even hardline Tories would deny that Labour, stability-wise, has been the ideal Party this term.

Greens have a Prime Minister go missing.
UKIP do whatever it is UKIP do.
Libertarians vanish.
Socialists (bless 'em) don't really have a leader.
Liberals VONC their Leader and their Chairman gets banned.
Tories have a leader step down and the new leader temporarily banned.

Labour has the same Leader, Deputy and Chair as the start of the term and we've all undergone a confidence motion half-way in to ensure we have the support of the party.
Haha, fair enough...


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UKIP do whatever it is UKIP do.
UKIP are just UKIP - Unexplained Known International Presence...

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Tories have a leader step down and the new leader temporarily banned.
I do believe this temp ban was overruled
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Haha, fair enough...



UKIP are just UKIP - Unexplained Known International Presence...


I do believe this temp ban was overruled
It was overruled but he was still gone for a bit. Of course the Tories, efficient as they are weren't really hindered by all that - which is why I think they're the most stable MHoC Party (bar mine). Conservatives are always going to be a bit rigid with their organisation though aren't they.
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It was overruled but he was still gone for a bit. Of course the Tories, efficient as they are weren't really hindered by all that - which is why I think they're the most stable MHoC Party (bar mine). Conservatives are always going to be a bit rigid with their organisation though aren't they.
Haha if you say so! To be fair, up and around the time when L_p knew he might be getting banned, we planned and were prepared for it to happen which made that period run just as smoothly as if he'd been there!
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Haha if you say so! To be fair, up and around the time when L_p knew he might be getting banned, we planned and were prepared for it to happen which made that period run just as smoothly as if he'd been there!
Planning is vital. I always tell my Deputy and Chair if I won't be online longer than 2 days lol
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UKIP as a whole or it's members...?

I wouldn't say I have a victim complex.
I think the party as a whole really. In real life it's a deliberate part of their rhetoric - plucky little Britain being torn up by these evil, faceless, all-powerful Eurocrats in Brussels. This seems to extend through the party and lead to large numbers of their supporters making the bizarre argument that that straight white men are some kind of oppressed group bound by political correctness now. On here it's manifested in the party rejecting any responsibility and painting themselves as the vicitms for being punished when in fact it was Aph who was the victim of their attack. I do not of course mean all UKIPpers - the likes of nebelbon have been pleasant exceptions - and I've not had the chance to really speak to you personally so I can't argue with that
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Planning is vital. I always tell my Deputy and Chair if I won't be online longer than 2 days lol
Yup... very vital!
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Of course the Tories, efficient as they are weren't really hindered by all that - which is why I think they're the most stable MHoC Party (bar mine).
Yes. Even with Nelson shot temporarily deposed, HMS Tory will continue to fend off the pesky revolutionaries.
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Haha, very funny.
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Hahaha, that's brilliant!
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I think the party as a whole really. In real life it's a deliberate part of their rhetoric - plucky little Britain being torn up by these evil, faceless, all-powerful Eurocrats in Brussels. This seems to extend through the party and lead to large numbers of their supporters making the bizarre argument that that straight white men are some kind of oppressed group bound by political correctness now. On here it's manifested in the party rejecting any responsibility and painting themselves as the vicitms for being punished when in fact it was Aph who was the victim of their attack. I do not of course mean all UKIPpers - the likes of nebelbon have been pleasant exceptions - and I've not had the chance to really speak to you personally so I can't argue with that
I'm not the stereotypical UKIP voter I suppose and my feelings towards Europe are fairly indifferent :P

As I said before, I think what happened with Aph was unfortunate and it is unfair that he felt so horribly about the whole thing, which then blew out of proportion far too quickly - for that I'm sorry. I'm sure we'll have more dealings as I'm in the MHoC loop now, no escape :P
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Rather than a never-ending series of VoNCs against Speakers whenever they're viewed as doing something wrong, I'm seriously considering writing an amendment to introduce regular Speakership elections, such as once a term. If you're vaguely unhappy with a Speaker but they're still competent that gives a less chaotic and stressful opportunity to remove them. Would anyone be willing to support this?
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Rather than a never-ending series of VoNCs against Speakers whenever they're viewed as doing something wrong, I'm seriously considering writing an amendment to introduce regular Speakership elections, such as once a term. If you're vaguely unhappy with a Speaker but they're still competent that gives a less chaotic and stressful opportunity to remove them. Would anyone be willing to support this?
I would support this
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Rather than a never-ending series of VoNCs against Speakers whenever they're viewed as doing something wrong, I'm seriously considering writing an amendment to introduce regular Speakership elections, such as once a term. If you're vaguely unhappy with a Speaker but they're still competent that gives a less chaotic and stressful opportunity to remove them. Would anyone be willing to support this?
I would better support an amendment whereby there is effectively a VoNC (although wouldn't have to be called this) at the end of every term to see if the house still believe in the Speaker. If they do, then no re-election necessary. If there is lack of confidence, then go for re-elect...

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Now for a lovely Diet Coke!
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Rather than a never-ending series of VoNCs against Speakers whenever they're viewed as doing something wrong, I'm seriously considering writing an amendment to introduce regular Speakership elections, such as once a term. If you're vaguely unhappy with a Speaker but they're still competent that gives a less chaotic and stressful opportunity to remove them. Would anyone be willing to support this?
I thought that was already the case? Faland had to be re-voted in at the start of this term.
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I would better support an amendment whereby there is effectively a VoNC (although wouldn't have to be called this) at the end of every term to see if the house still believe in the Speaker. If they do, then no re-election necessary. If there is lack of confidence, then go for re-elect...
So you mean a Vote of Confidence (VoC). Like what we do with Labour leaders.
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I just got called a Tory *******...
It was on another website, but all because I agreed that child benefit should be capped to two children.
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So you mean a Vote of Confidence (VoC). Like what we do with Labour leaders.
Not sure what you do for the labour leaders, but effectively yes... If that's what the House wanted, I'd rather support this, than a full re-election!
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I would better support an amendment whereby there is effectively a VoNC (although wouldn't have to be called this) at the end of every term to see if the house still believe in the Speaker. If they do, then no re-election necessary. If there is lack of confidence, then go for re-elect...
I think this may already be the case. I'd actually forgotten that when I wrote the post, although I still think there could be benefits to holding an outright election.
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