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    (Original post by The_Male_Melons)
    Labour were bad for this country. They left a mess. A trillion in debt, a deficit that is billion, on top of this this there is interest. The coalition government inherited this mess. Labour ****ed up during the "good times", someone has to do the dirty work and they are kicked down. No riots.

    Where did the money go? What happened? Why did the UK need to borrow during the "good times"? How can it be "good" to borrow at that amount?

    Yes, the banks are to blame. It cost the UK £73 billion to save them. If sold, there would be a neat profit. This does not equate to a 13 year systematic abuse of finances.

    Millions didn't want the UK to go to war. Labour decided differently, in fact bullied their own MPs to support it. That party curbed civil liberties, now claiming they are all for it.
    Yet there were no riots. I am puzzled as well.

    You ask why there is animosity? Because people are beginning to realise that you can't have everything and the UK is ****ed. It seems to me, let's kick the person down who is trying to sort out the mess.
    Given enough time you'll realize your bogus laden response is completely illogical.

    Since you don't seem to be the patient thoughtful type, I'll expedite your comprehension.

    The Conservative Party is inhuman.

    I mean how can you sit in a room and say :"I know! Let's triple Student tuition and scrap EMAs!"and then claim the people who respond angrily are a minority of anarchists?

    Can you not see these people are utterly insane?
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    (Original post by TheMeister)
    I was commenting on the vitriolic shambles of an attempt that person had made at trying to rouse people into revolution


    revolution against the so-called capitalist 'evils' (something you clearly subscribe to by having a computer and an internet connection) does not equal international relations


    It really is about this time that I'm becoming quite bored of sweeping generalisations and damaging assumptions
    looooooool. YOU ARE A JOKE. You are a classic example of the declining educational system that places emphasis on bureaucracy.

    ANSWER ME THIS.

    If capitalism was not at the root of all political interest why are Japan and America engaging in a navel exercise of the east coast of China this evening. Why did the CIA engage in propaganda to over throw a democratically elected government in Chile. Why did they try to over throw Hugo Chavez lol. In addition, why is the coercive power and financial power of states so focused on in international relations?

    Generalisation you say, that is not what I am doing. I am highlighting the truth. I am not saying that nothing positive happens but the key aspects revolve around the same thing.
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    (Original post by Gimme More)
    Given enough time you'll realize your bogus laden response is completely illogical.

    Since you don't seem to be the patient thoughtful type, I'll expedite your comprehension.

    The Conservative Party is inhuman.

    I mean how can you sit in a room and say :"I know! Let's triple Student tuition and scrap EMAs!"and then claim the people who respond angrily are a minority of anarchists?

    Can you not see these people are utterly insane?

    Putting petty insults to one side, the Conservative Party are not lizard. No matter what David Icke states.

    They are anarchists- threatening people, burning objects, vandalising, breaking and entering... They are normal human behaviour, aren't they? So peaceful?

    They didn't sit in a room and randomly decided that. They had to make savings as a result of Labour economic mismanagement. You fail to take heed of this.

    The tripling of student tuition.- If you look at what is on the table, it is fair:

    - You don't pay after you earn £21000
    - You don't pay upfront
    - Higher maintenance loans and grants
    - Up to 2 years free if you are living in povert

    These are bad things. Naughty Dave. Naughty Nick.

    EMA- Why should people be bribed to do college work?

    There will be further support for poorer students and less well off families. Under Labour, during the "good years" poverty was on the increase. :s
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    (Original post by Gimme More)
    Given enough time you'll realize your bogus laden response is completely illogical.

    Since you don't seem to be the patient thoughtful type, I'll expedite your comprehension.

    The Conservative Party is inhuman.

    I mean how can you sit in a room and say :"I know! Let's triple Student tuition and scrap EMAs!"and then claim the people who respond angrily are a minority of anarchists?

    Can you not see these people are utterly insane?

    If you have, read 'The Prince' then you would understand how these people work and how politics work. They look to use the opportunity to put spin on things and manipulate you into believing there is know other option. They sell their ideologies as political facts. The use of Anarchists to describe the protectors is just a feeble attempt to appeal to our humanity to condemn the violence and to distract us from the key issue.

    So in that sense they are not human and in the form of Cameron they have a charismatic leader who will easily manipulate the frail minded.

    Surely this is clear to educated individuals.
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    (Original post by The_Male_Melons)

    They are anarchists- threatening people, burning objects, vandalising, breaking and entering... They are normal human behaviour, aren't they? So peaceful?
    Suppose you watched a person playing with a pistol as he fires a live round into his chin. The act itself notwithstanding, would you find this person sane if he then turned around and started berating his chin for gushing out violent torrents of blood?

    These protests are a REACTION. When will you dummies start to appreciate this?

    (Original post by The_Male_Melons)
    They didn't sit in a room and randomly decided that. They had to make savings as a result of Labour economic mismanagement. You fail to take heed of this.
    Oh and so paying £48million a day to the EU is good economic management?

    Handing over £4billion to bail out Ireland is making savings?

    Don't be so naive!

    They've given you a bunch of empty excuses.
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    (Original post by The_Male_Melons)
    Putting petty insults to one side, the Conservative Party are not lizard. No matter what David Icke states.

    They are anarchists- threatening people, burning objects, vandalising, breaking and entering... They are normal human behaviour, aren't they? So peaceful?

    They didn't sit in a room and randomly decided that. They had to make savings as a result of Labour economic mismanagement. You fail to take heed of this.

    The tripling of student tuition.- If you look at what is on the table, it is fair:

    - You don't pay after you earn £21000
    - You don't pay upfront
    - Higher maintenance loans and grants
    - Up to 2 years free if you are living in povert

    These are bad things. Naughty Dave. Naughty Nick.

    EMA- Why should people be bribed to do college work?

    There will be further support for poorer students and less well off families. Under Labour, during the "good years" poverty was on the increase. :s
    SO...Tell me why has cooperate taxes been cut then, If they want to increase savings. Also, tell me why the economic mismanagement of the private sector not been addressed. Yes, labour made sum errors but so did company directors they brush all that under the carpet to put a spin on the economic situation as soley labours fault. The media do not talk much about bank levies now do they?

    Ask yourself why?
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    Being a student and a Tory is a contradiction.
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    Tories.; scum of the earth, party for the rich and that will be all.
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    (Original post by The_Male_Melons)
    SNIP
    I'm assuming you live in a well to do corner of the Empire, isolated from the real world.

    Perhaps you should visit places off the beaten track - where genuine humans actually live.

    You might get a better perspective on life and you may yet realize that a person born and raised in a particular kind of society is unsuitable to govern people from other walks of life.
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    (Original post by F i s)
    Being a student and a Tory is a contradiction.
    Having Ethics and being Tory is a contradiction, even that **** Blair was centre right about model himself of Thatcher he a fool. The political parties need some diversity, hope Ed brings that, even though I doubt he is charismatic enough to be a force. Shame people only vote for charismatic leaders mad that we like to be deceived.
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    (Original post by F i s)
    Being a student and a Tory is a contradiction.
    No it's not. Not if you believe in Conservatism as an ideology. They may not totally benefit us at the present, but they'll benefit our future selves.
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    (Original post by Gimme More)
    Suppose you watched a person playing with a pistol as he fires a live round into his chin. The act itself notwithstanding, would you find this person sane if he then turned around and started berating his chin for gushing out violent torrents of blood?

    These protests are a REACTION. When will you dummies start to appreciate this?
    They're are a reaction to austerity. If you give someone an object that benefits them and then take it away, they are obviously going to be angry. It doesn't make it any less necessary. People don't like austerity, but sometimes it is needed to be taken on the chin, why? Because we live in a world where skill and value are distributed unevenly within the human race, it is part of the human condition. We are not all equal, our opinions and knowledge are not all equal and to treat us as such is simply unjust to those who put in more.
    We do need a new voting system yes, but we need a voting system which still ensures a strong majority. We need a system where peoples second and third preferences are taken into account, so in the end the party who is incumbent possesses 50% or more of the vote and is thus reflected in the seats. IE AV+.

    However your opinion on the Conservatives being 'evil' is purely subjective. Pray tell me, if a large portion of the population voted for this party, does it not give a clue that perhaps people have had enough with excessive inflation and a bottomless pit of debt?
    Can I call Socialists evil because they want to take what I have earnt through my own efforts away and give it to those who have not put in the effort I have? Yes I can, but i don't. I respect people have different viewpoints and I would never berate somebody for that. I know socialists, I am friends with socialists, and we have our arguments but we are still friends when all that conflict is over. We know when to put the political billboard down and just get on with life.



    (Original post by gimme more)
    Oh and so paying £48million a day to the EU is good economic management?

    Handing over £4billion to bail out Ireland is making savings?

    Don't be so naive!

    They've given you a bunch of empty excuses.
    I am not Pro-EU. However Ireland has a major impact on the UK economy, if Ireland goes down, its taking a good slice of the UK with it.
    Freedom of choice is important, and the world does not need people like you telling others that they are evil if they are causing no direct harm to somebody.
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    (Original post by Yawza)
    Having Ethics and being Tory is a contradiction, even that **** Blair was centre right about model himself of Thatcher he a fool. The political parties need some diversity, hope Ed brings that, even though I doubt he is charismatic enough to be a force. Shame people only vote for charismatic leaders mad that we like to be deceived.
    Parties move centre right because that is where Britain is. Like it or not, Britain is majority Conservative with a small c. Had Thatcher not gone mad and put that idiot Major in charge of the country and Blair come along with his shiny new approach, the Conservatives would have had atleast another 5 years in my opinion.
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    (Original post by Summergirl.x)
    No it's not. Not if you believe in Conservatism as an ideology. They may not totally benefit us at the present, but they'll benefit our future selves.
    Do you have any idea of just how many people wish to destroy Conservatism, with extreme violence if necessary? Don't believe media commentators. They're sugar coating things.

    You're actually in the minority, and it's partially those "future selves" you speak of who are most willing to do the damage.
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    It's a phase dude. Don't worry. I've got it all worked out. Eventually, the Labour Party and the Tory Party will take each other out and then I'll form a government where I'll pass a law banning bulimia and ensuring all kids eat five portions of chocolate a day.
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    (Original post by Ocassus)
    Parties move centre right because that is where Britain is. Like it or not, Britain is majority Conservative with a small c. Had Thatcher not gone mad and put that idiot Major in charge of the country and Blair come along with his shiny new approach, the Conservatives would have had atleast another 5 years in my opinion.
    Never heard so much do-lally in my life. Not one truthful statement there, Britain is not a fixed podium where the public sway towards. The people have autonomy and are at liberty to favour the party which most portrays their views.
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    (Original post by Gimme More)
    I'm assuming you live in a well to do corner of the Empire, isolated from the real world.

    Perhaps you should visit places off the beaten track - where genuine humans actually live.

    You might get a better perspective on life and you may yet realize that a person born and raised in a particular kind of society is unsuitable to govern people from other walks of life.
    I never stated Snip. :s
    I am not well off. Far from it. Where are these "beaten off track" places? Why should I visit there? Bizzare. If I wanted to visit somewhere, I probably visit the major city centres, shopping centres, tourist attraction sites basically.
    Have a better perspective on line. Here comes the man with such moral guidance. I suggest you visit the third world and realise how priveleged students are.
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    (Original post by Hippysnake)
    It's a phase dude. Don't worry. I've got it all worked out. Eventually, the Labour Party and the Tory Party will take each other out and then I'll form a government where I'll pass a law banning bulimia and ensuring all kids eat five portions of chocolate a day.
    Use a little more tact while you're at it!!!
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    (Original post by The_Male_Melons)
    I never stated Snip. :s
    I am not well off. Far from it. Where are these "beaten off track" places? Why should I visit there? Bizzare. If I wanted to visit somewhere, I probably visit the major city centres, shopping centres, tourist attraction sites basically.
    Have a better perspective on line. Here comes the man with such moral guidance. I suggest you visit the third world and realise how priveleged students are.
    There are many third world communities much better off than some of the poorer communities here in this country.

    Whenever you're ready to be stunned let me know.

    I'm willing to show you what I mean.
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    (Original post by Gimme More)
    Use a little more tact while you're at it!!!
    I LOVE DAVID CAMERON.

    He's so hawt. And his policies make me ***.

    NOTE:The above post is a complete joke.
 
 
 
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