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    (Original post by chignesh10)
    hey guys
    i am hindu
    bye
    And I'm a Marxist.
    I have no dislike of your religion but I dislike trolls in the philosophical forums.
    GTFO or I get Stalin on your ass.
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    (Original post by Aeolus)
    I am interested as to whether you subscribe to Marx's dialectic? Do you see your idea of anarchism as an approaching reality. Or do you believe, like I do that capitalism (I include contemporary government in that term) has no current, realistic alternative, or antithesis?
    The Marxist answer is something like:

    The anthises to capitalist rule comes from the working class that they create.

    An example would be - its in the interests of a shop owner to cut wages/stop double time/time and a half etc. as this means that the capitalists mode of production is more profit efficient.

    It is in the interests of the workers for the exact opposite - pay rises, introducing double or triple time for bank holidays etc. as they then have more money to pay the bills, buy nicer food etc.

    So the two are pitted against each other - sometimes openly sometimes not, one single worker will not be a threat but a union of workers is, due to the economic strength in numbers.

    These two will fight against each other, with small to medium victories and losses for both sides. This can only end when (or if) the working class defeat the capitalist class and become the ruling class. I.E when the working class own the means of production rather than than capitalists - nationalised industry under democratic workers control rather than private companies. Capitalism will never be able to sort this problem out as it capitalists can only exist when they have workers and vice versa. Once that changes you have something other than capitalism.

    The capitalists will do their best to use all waepons as and when neccessary - so that could be using the state to pass 'anti trade union' laws, a procapitalist media etc. etc.

    I think the above is actually true in society today and therefore think this is dialectical and capitalism has its contradictions - even if at the present moment(up til 2007 at least) it appeared to invincible. The next few years will be interesting as i predict the unions will lead hundreds of thousands of people to protest and the idea of socialism etc will start to gain some momentum.
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    (Original post by badtothebone)
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    Yes I am aware of all that. My question was if the user subscribed to the dialectic in a contemporary context. Is there any realistic alternative system which could replace capitalism right now from an anarchist point of view? Realistic being the point.
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    (Original post by Aeolus)
    Yes I am aware of all that. My question was if the user subscribed to the dialectic in a contemporary context. Is there any realistic alternative system which could replace capitalism right now from an anarchist point of view? Realistic being the point.
    I completely agree!
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    As you're all either Marxist, Anarchist or leftists of kind, Has there ever been to your knowledge a Corruption investigation into the British Trade Union Movement? Now when I say the trade unions, I mean solely the trade unions, not the unions donations the Labour Party or any other political Party or group.

    The reason I ask this is I'm writing a book set in glasgow between november 1918 and February 1919 about the Forty Hour strike and the Battle of George Square. This is going to be a novel which has a fictional attempt by the Soviets to turn the strike into an October 1917-style revolution. So I have a number of other questions about the British Left, because I'm A Reactionary Tory and British Neo-Imperialist and haven't been much interested the Trade Union except as a threat to Law & Order.

    1. Did the British Socialist Party (Which was the forrunner to the CPGB) have any trade unions affiliated to it and if so how many and which ones?

    2. What was the extent of the support for the Soviets in the TUC, Scottish TUC and Irish TUC?

    3. Was there any active support for the IRA by the Trade Unions or the Labour Party?

    4. Was there any support for the Soviets in the Labour Party?

    5. Do you think if there had been a revolution in Glasgow in January 1919, would it have succeed?

    (The last question I ask, because I'm think of turning this into a What-If novel with the Glasgow strike and riots as the beginning of a fictional Communist Revolution)

    6. If the answer to the previous question is know, could you tell of other situation when it could have happened?
 
 
 
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