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"People saying bad stuff about us should be shot" says £30,000 benefits claimant Watch

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    (Original post by rylit91)
    I wasn't for one moment suggesting that you were one of these people, or would become one. I was asking, perhaps thinking you were from a home county, so that I knew whether or not you had ever had the opportunity to come into contact with these people. I am from Essex which is stereotyped as Chav paradise, and my family comes from the East End - has done for at least 300 years, and I have seen these cases first hand and personally know if people who do such a thing.

    That fact that you are only temporarily here further shows that, to be frank, you're in no place to argue having never seen any cases or spoken to people who are like this.
    There are poor people in the home counties you know... and a lot of middle class people today will have grown up in poorer areas than they now live in, so it's a bit presumptuous to say that people who live in the home counties won't have had the opportunity to meet people on benefits.
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    (Original post by lonelykatana)
    Some of us like cooking (wtf right?!)
    Yesterday I made pasta with a spicy tomato sauce, with two fair sized filet's of salmon for the grand price of £2.50.
    Which i think is bloody fair considering the fish alone was £2!


    Why the **** am I telling you this anyway :confused:
    You dont care :P
    Pre-cooked food tastes nasty anyway.. home made stuff is almost always 100x better.

    I refuse to eat pre-cooked meals and the like from super markets. Not because I'm poor, but because I hate the concept.
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    (Original post by Lemons)
    There are poor people in the home counties you know... and a lot of middle class people today will have grown up in poorer areas than they now live in, so it's a bit presumptuous to say that people who live in the home counties won't have had the opportunity to meet people on benefits.
    Perhaps so, and I know that not everyone in the Home Counties is rich, but it would be absurd to try and draw parallels between the majority of homes in Hampshire, Berkshire, Hertfordshire, Surrey and the likes, with those of the East End where a large immigrant population reside along with a population with a lot on benefits.
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    (Original post by rylit91)
    I wasn't for one moment suggesting that you were one of these people, or would become one. I was asking, perhaps thinking you were from a home county, so that I knew whether or not you had ever had the opportunity to come into contact with these people. I am from Essex which is stereotyped as Chav paradise, and my family comes from the East End - has done for at least 300 years, and I have seen these cases first hand and personally know if people who do such a thing.

    That fact that you are only temporarily here further shows that, to be frank, you're in no place to argue having never seen any cases or spoken to people who are like this.
    Oh in terms of living here, yes I am from a home county. I also live in Essex, in Epping. Which part of Essex are you from?

    Lol okay, just because I'm a visitor to your country, it doesn't mean I haven't observed and spoken to people. Like I said, I have many friends who are immigrants but I haven't observed the things you mentioned. I may be a visitor but I have had exposure to a lot of things.
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    (Original post by edd360)
    You do realise they have loads of kids not because their lack of understanding of contraception, but because the more kids you have the more money you get?
    Do you really think that happens? (serious question because this idea gets spouted a lot).

    As you will see from my above posts, I'm far from some socialist nut who thinks everybody should be on state handouts or something but this idea just doesn't make sense to me.

    The amount recieved for extra children is measly. If you do not work, its not really 'extra' money at all. That money has to be spent on the child (atleast almost all of it :P). Going to the length of knocking out another kid for an extra couple of quid a week, doesn't seem feasible. I could see it being the case here as there are 15 kids, but the same thing gets said when its only 5 - 6 kids. I'm guessing if that money isn't spent on essentials for the child, he/she would probably die or be seriously ill and would be taken into care anyway.

    £12 - £20 a week for a child isn't a lot of money. I remember reading a news report a while back which cited research stating it costs a huge amount to raise a child. From birth to eighteen years old was something like £250,000.

    £20 a week for a year = £1040. £1040 x 18 =£18,720... It can't be enough. These guys should be locked up for child neglect. I am aware that you recieve more support when the child is extremely young, but it can't make up that much of a difference.

    My opinion is that they are just stupid, irresponsible idiots.
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    (Original post by babygirl110)
    Oh in terms of living here, yes I am from a home county. I also live in Essex, in Epping. Which part of Essex are you from?

    Lol okay, just because I'm a visitor to your country, it doesn't mean I haven't observed and spoken to people. Like I said, I have many friends who are immigrants but I haven't observed the things you mentioned. I may be a visitor but I have had exposure to a lot of things.
    Chelmsford. I do not dispute that you have spoken to people and had exposure to things, but those that are native to this country are immersed in this, which is sadly now a part of our culture. Likewise, living in Essex, despite the stereotype, is obviously part of the affluent South; there isn't widespread benefit claiming. I don't know how we've managed to digress to this from immigrants coming here for benefits.
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    I feel really sorry for the children.
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    (Original post by Steph90)
    Do you really think that happens? (serious question because this idea gets spouted a lot).

    As you will see from my above posts, I'm far from some socialist nut who thinks everybody should be on state handouts or something but this idea just doesn't make sense to me.

    The amount recieved for extra children is measly. If you do not work, its not really 'extra' money at all. That money has to be spent on the child (atleast almost all of it :P). Going to the length of knocking out another kid for an extra couple of quid a week, doesn't seem feasible. I could see it being the case here as there are 15 kids, but the same thing gets said when its only 5 - 6 kids. I'm guessing if that money isn't spent on essentials for the child, he/she would probably die or be seriously ill and would be taken into care anyway.

    £12 - £20 a week for a child isn't a lot of money. I remember reading a news report a while back which cited research stating it costs a huge amount to raise a child. From birth to eighteen years old was something like £250,000.

    £20 a week for a year = £1040. £1040 x 18 =£18,720... It can't be enough. These guys should be locked up for child neglect. I am aware that you recieve more support when the child is extremely young, but it can't make up that much of a difference.

    My opinion is that they are just stupid, irresponsible idiots.
    Well, yeah that is what I thought. Oh well, I guess they are just retards then.
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    (Original post by Steph90)
    Do you really think that happens? (serious question because this idea gets spouted a lot).

    As you will see from my above posts, I'm far from some socialist nut who thinks everybody should be on state handouts or something but this idea just doesn't make sense to me.

    The amount recieved for extra children is measly. If you do not work, its not really 'extra' money at all. That money has to be spent on the child (atleast almost all of it :P). Going to the length of knocking out another kid for an extra couple of quid a week, doesn't seem feasible. I could see it being the case here as there are 15 kids, but the same thing gets said when its only 5 - 6 kids. I'm guessing if that money isn't spent on essentials for the child, he/she would probably die or be seriously ill and would be taken into care anyway.

    £12 - £20 a week for a child isn't a lot of money. I remember reading a news report a while back which cited research stating it costs a huge amount to raise a child. From birth to eighteen years old was something like £250,000.

    £20 a week for a year = £1040. £1040 x 18 =£18,720... It can't be enough. These guys should be locked up for child neglect. I am aware that you recieve more support when the child is extremely young, but it can't make up that much of a difference.

    My opinion is that they are just stupid, irresponsible idiots.
    I've often thought this, but then maybe because this kind of nonsense gets sprouted so much, some people may think it's true and do it anyway!? It probably means they get a bigger house regardless, and if they get say, £20 for each kid, and they only spend £15 on each one, they will be better off the more they have even if it's just a tiny bit better off.
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    Why do people put themselves up for ridicule when they should know they are scroungers.
    pathetic scroungers..
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    This has pissed me off.
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    Clearly his back isn't so bad that he can't rumpy-pumpy.
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    THEY are the ones that need to be shot , and soon. Before they steal much more of my tax money.
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      (Original post by Aspiringlawstudent)

      Gary Bateman and Joanne Sheppard pocket an estimated £30,000 a year in state handouts.

      He claims £89.80 a week incapacity benefit for a bad back and is not thought to have worked since 1999. Because they are jobless they can claim a host of other benefits.

      They live in a £300,000 five-bedroom home – the £1,200 a month rent paid for by housing benefit.

      They live with ten of their youngest children – the oldest five have moved away – and receive £20.30 for their eldest and £13.40 for the remaining nine.

      Last year, Mr Bateman’s claim to be unwell was called into question after he was filmed taking part in a motocross competition.

      But the 46-year-old said: ‘People need to keep their noses out of our business and people saying bad stuff about us should be shot. I want to work but I can’t. I haven’t ridden my bike since last year.’

      Miss Sheppard, 36, who has not worked for 20 years, said: ‘I just can’t understand what all the fuss is about.’


      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz19O05huxn

      Classy, isn't he?

      How does this story make you feel?
      meh, he is undoubtably a scrounger, but frankly represents a minority.
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      Why do people have so many children when they know they can't pay for them?
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      Surely the govt is at blame for this as well? We need a welfare system which takes care of the children (it's not their fault) without making it desirable for the parents to be unemployed...
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      (Original post by lonely14)
      Are they retarded or something? :curious:

      ‘People need to keep their noses out of our business and people saying bad stuff about us should be shot.

      ‘I just can’t understand what all the fuss is about.’ :lolwut:

      Torries will sort them out.
      This.
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      Selfish idiots like them are the people that need to be shot.

      Where's Stalin when you need him? :fuhrer:

      I know it's from the Daily Fail, but Cameron did say leeches like them would be penelised.
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      (Original post by Calumcalum)
      "Joanne Sheppard and Gary Batemen are expecting their twelfth child"

      "They live with ten of their youngest children – the oldest five have moved away – and receive £20.30 for their eldest and £13.40 for the remaining nine."



      Has no one else realised that this doesn't add up at all???
      The others could be by different fathers?
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      (Original post by James4d)
      No sh!t :rolleyes:
      Forgot to mention prosthetics. The new ones are decent though. But +1 for your pedantic-ness.
     
     
     
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