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    Conservatives raised Tuition fees. Represent anti-immigration, anti-EU, pro-cuts, pro-fat cats, how would any of this appeal to a student?

    Plus, they're a party of boring boring people. Minus BoJo, he should be an independent.
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    (Original post by Eboracum)
    they've delivered policies that favour the wealthy and they have failed to get an economy growing believing the false pretence that you can cut you're way out of a recession, you can't.
    You think you can spend your way out of a recession? Can tell why you vote Labour.

    Do you know what would happen if Cameron only SAID they would spend money. Britain's credit rating would plummet. This means it would cost more for the Government to borrow money. So your "smart" scheme of spending your way out of recession just got even more expensive!

    How about we stop paying all the scummy Labour voters to have kids whilst on benefits. That'll save a decent amount of money!
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    (Original post by billydisco)
    You think you can spend your way out of a recession? Can tell why you vote Labour.

    Do you know what would happen if Cameron only SAID they would spend money. Britain's credit rating would plummet. This means it would cost more for the Government to borrow money. So your "smart" scheme of spending your way out of recession just got even more expensive!

    How about we stop paying all the scummy Labour voters to have kids whilst on benefits. That'll save a decent amount of money!
    You can grow your way out of a recession certainly. An economy won't grow if a) people have less money in real terms and b) if people are out of work. So the top priority has to be to solve these issues, and as Keynes tells us, this requires money to be pumped into the economy, something which Cameron and Osborne don't understand.

    Now spending cuts are possible, however economic growth has to be the top priority. Credit ratings in general are a scam, they are fabricated and bloated by credit firms.

    Your last line was just snobbery. It sounds like something I would have said in 2010 when I voted Tory. A problem we all agree, but one that needs to be solved properly, not by Tory privileged scummy attitudes like that.
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    (Original post by Eboracum)
    Do you not think Labour had to get up to date though? I would argue most people left and right would say they are economical conservatives, that is, they agree it is time to cut spending. Labour in the 1980's under Michael Foot and Neil Kinnock were just living in the dark ages.

    They let the whole country down by allowing so much immigration, I agree.

    I don't think Labour lied about the Iraq war, I think that's a conspiracy theory. Were there "other reasons" such as they wanted a change of regime and they didn't want Saddam having the oil (because oil is power)? Yes. But I believe they thought there was a chance of Nuclear Weapons (Saddam tricked his own people after all) so couldn't take the risk.

    The Iraq war was a mega mistake and it should never have happened. By all means attack by air (what they should do in Syria), but when you start deploying troops - big problems.
    Well, i do not necessarly agree they needed updating because by updating they sold out their principles. I think labour chased power and ended up selling their soul.


    Also, I do not think the lie was a conspiracy theory. i mean they 'sexed up' the war dossiers. 'Sexed up' is just another word for lying.
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    (Original post by pinklego)
    Well, i do not necessarly agree they needed updating because by updating they sold out their principles. I think labour chased power and ended up selling their soul.


    Also, I do not think the lie was a conspiracy theory. i mean they 'sexed up' the war dossiers. 'Sexed up' is just another word for lying.
    The majority of the country don't agree with 1980's socialist policies though. They want a Labour government socially liberal and economically conservative. They hardly sold out, they just moved with the times. Blair and Brown were right to accept many of Thatcher's reforms.

    MI6, Mossad and the CIA sometimes get it wrong, that's just part of life. It was "sexed up", but they were pushing for war.
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    (Original post by Eboracum)
    The majority of the country don't agree with 1980's socialist policies though. They want a Labour government socially liberal and economically conservative. They hardly sold out, they just moved with the times. Blair and Brown were right to accept many of Thatcher's reforms.

    MI6, Mossad and the CIA sometimes get it wrong, that's just part of life. It was "sexed up", but they were pushing for war.
    It is always so easy to excuse our behaviours and those of our leaders regarding the Iraq war using your reasoning. The fact is Bush, Bliar and their entourage convinced themselves that they had to depose Sadam by going to war with Iraq and it was the right thing to do. They then urged our intelligence services to build the case for war and tried every forms of propaganda and lies known to man to convince us and the world we had to do it. They were so blinkered and oblivious of the truth that Sadam did not have any real weapons despite everything the UN weapons inspectors kept saying.
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    (Original post by bkeevin)
    Sorry to disappoint you, but it is NEW labour who introduced the tuition fees. The new labour administration seemed only too happy to adopt the Tory commissioned Dearing Report. Real labour would never have done that! So you can blame it on Tony Bliar!!!
    I hate that, as a Labourite, I get tarred with the same brush as the likes of you, I really do.
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    (Original post by Barden)
    I hate that, as a Labourite, I get tarred with the same brush as the likes of you, I really do.
    I am sure there are many Labourites who disagreed with many of the New Labour policies so I don't think I am alone. You guys are free to denounce us and perhaps even change the name of the party to push the 'likes of me out' to become even more centrist. Although I have already voted for the Labour party I don't particularly classify myself as a Labourite. I just have left wing leanings.
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    (Original post by Eva_UK)
    Tuition fees? No brainer


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    (Original post by gaffer dean)
    because of the £9,000 uni fees, totally outrageous imo,
    (Original post by rock_climber86)
    cos they tripled tuition fees!
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    Raising university fees.
    You are all ignoramuses frankly.

    The tripling of tuition fees was down to the LABOUR commissioned Browne Report. All the Tories did were implement the findings. However it's good politics for Labour to have made sure that an unpopular decision that would have had to be done would have had to been done under the next government.

    Not only that, it was Labour who introduced tuition fees and tripled them in the first place.

    Oh btw under the new system, you're actually better off. You pay it gradually depending on your earnings above £21k and after 30 years it gets wiped off. The chances that you'll actually ever have to pay all of it off are quite slim.
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    (Original post by rmpr97)
    You are all ignoramuses frankly.

    The tripling of tuition fees was down to the LABOUR commissioned Browne Report. All the Tories did were implement the findings. However it's good politics for Labour to have made sure that an unpopular decision that would have had to be done would have had to been done under the next government.

    Not only that, it was Labour who introduced tuition fees and tripled them in the first place.

    Oh btw under the new system, you're actually better off. You pay it gradually depending on your earnings above £21k and after 30 years it gets wiped off. The chances that you'll actually ever have to pay all of it off are quite slim.
    Yes Labour were planning on doing it but the conservatives did it.

    And the last paragraph is making a very big assumption.
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    (Original post by . . .)
    Yes Labour were planning on doing it but the conservatives did it.

    And the last paragraph is making a very big assumption.
    Okay, so then why disregard the Tories for it, if every party would have done it regardless? You can't blame the Tories for it, and if you want to blame anyone blame Labour for introducing tuition fees and commissioning the report.

    And not, the last paragraph does not make a big assumption. Under the new system you are actually better off.
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    (Original post by rmpr97)
    Okay, so then why disregard the Tories for it, if every party would have done it regardless? You can't blame the Tories for it, and if you want to blame anyone blame Labour for introducing tuition fees and commissioning the report.

    And not, the last paragraph does not make a big assumption. Under the new system you are actually better off.
    I don't blame anyone. I just don't like them for that reason.

    You are only better off if you don't earn enough to pay back the whole loan.
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    (Original post by . . .)
    I don't blame anyone. I just don't like them for that reason.

    You are only better off if you don't earn enough to pay back the whole loan.
    So by that case, you don't like Labour, the Tories, Lib Dems, and any other party who agreed to the fee rises/vote for them?

    Yes, and in most cases, most will never pay them back off.
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    (Original post by rmpr97)
    So by that case, you don't like Labour, the Tories, Lib Dems, and any other party who agreed to the fee rises/vote for them?

    Yes, and in most cases, most will never pay them back off.
    Yes. And there are other reasons I don't like them too.

    Yes and that is the assumption you made.
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    (Original post by Eboracum)
    You can grow your way out of a recession certainly. An economy won't grow if a) people have less money in real terms and b) if people are out of work. So the top priority has to be to solve these issues, and as Keynes tells us, this requires money to be pumped into the economy, something which Cameron and Osborne don't understand.
    Show me how pumping money into an economy produces growth....?


    (Original post by Eboracum)
    Your last line was just snobbery. It sounds like something I would have said in 2010 when I voted Tory. A problem we all agree, but one that needs to be solved properly, not by Tory privileged scummy attitudes like that.
    Its snobbery to state a fact (which you confirmed)? All the daily mail readers are now "snobs" ?
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    (Original post by Clare~Bear)
    The tories tripled them. It was pretty pointless labour fighting it as they didn't have a majority.
    Well considering the fact Ed Miliband is in favour of 6k fees he wouldn't magically reduce it to what it was (And lets honest here he is in opposition he can say whatever he wants). Labour would have done exactly the same had they been elected, they would have tripled the fees. And Cameron as leader of the opposition would have opposed it for the Political gains to be had.
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    Looking at the answers here were doomed I tell you were doooomed. I'm glad no political party takes students seriously. Young people are dangerous.
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    I believe the saying goes a little like this, "If you don't vote Labour before your 21 you don't have a heart, if you don't vote conservative by time your 40 you don't have a brain."
 
 
 
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